Cultural Revolution is Over!

[Yosarian2]

I doubt we have a doc AND a back-up doc with percent failure types.

Yeah. My speculation had been that perhaps we have one sane doc and one insane doc (insane doc being a doc that kills instead of protects).

[Shamrock]

But then why did no one die night 1?

[Yosarian2]

But then why did no one die night 1?

Good question...perhaps they both targeted the same person?

(shrug) Just a guess, anyway.

[Glork]

Okay, I think it's time I revealed the speculation CES and I had been doing the past couple of nights.

Fritzler was a Red Guard Recruit, and claimed to be a student who passed messages to other people.
The third person in our family masongroup is a student at a local school that has been shut down -- and we were flat-out told that if our child was recruited by the Red Guards, they would stop talking to us.
Y claims to be a Medical Student... I'm pretty sure that if Y hasn't been recruited already (which I suspect to be the case), he'll be recruited.

Basically, we made the conjecture that recruitability was tied in with one's flavor. That's why I've been asking about people's flavor as they claim. I know I pretty much get one shot at catching someone with this, since everyone from now on will make up some alternate flavor if they're a student of some kind. But I decided after talking with CES that the Red Guards probably know that the students are "impressionable" in these times, so I don't think I'm giving them any info that they don't already have.

I'll admit that this Bacde/Shamrock situation confused me a bit. But I'm still certain that our initial conjecture holds. I have to current theories as to what's going on:
1) Chamber is a mafia cop, or has been recruited, and is protecting Bacde by claiming Bacde's innocence. Bacde, Sham, and Chamber are all scum (Recruited scum? Not sure yet...), and this is part of a pretty elaborate gambit
2) Students are automatically recruited to the Red Guards, whereas non-student players (like, say... Peasants) have a choice. In this case, Bacde and Sham are telling the truth, and Chamber is probably legit.

This is why I said that Bacde might be a necessary lynch at some point. I'm reasonably sure that he, Sham, and Chamber are all of the same alignment, and Pooky might be tied in with them as well (though I think Pooky is/was a Peasant, based on an early post he made). Bacde's lynch would give us a lot of information, and could help break open the game's setup/mechanics.


....but I digress. Personally, I think Y has been recruited and made up the the "% failure" part to cover up his failure to protect if/when the real Doctor dies. Like MMoD said, I find it a bit unlikely that both the regular and backup would be %-failure players. The backup's penalty isn't that he has a chance to fail his protection. It's that he has a chance of being recruited and possibly becoming a Red Guard Doctor.

Confirm Vote: Y

, and I suggest that we (or just you folks, if I follow CES to the grave tonight) consider lynching Bacde tomorrow.

[BabyJesus]

confirm vote Y

Heh...is this your "always lynch the doc" metagame thingy?

pretty much

[mystery meat of doom]

Pretty good idea there Glork. I'm also reasonably sure that all three of them might be the same alignment, and the only difference I can see is that Shamrock somehow is the recruiter and knows that others can refuse his recruitment, though it's a very small possibility.

[Thok]

If what Glork is said is true, than ether Y is cult, or will be culted soon. And from what I know I can believe his explanation of the flavor.

vote Y

[viper0933]

I now don't believe Y has much town percentage anymore.

Vote: Y

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

I think that was the hammer viper, let us see what is Y's true role when our mod reveals it to us.

[viper0933]

I now don't believe Y has

much town percentage

anymore.

Vote: Y

The first bolded words, I mean it as "any innocence". Sorry about that. 8)

[Bacde]

<-- Doesn't want to be a martyr

[Glork]

<--- Doesn't care, as long as it will help the town win the game.

[Hop Shui]

Declare war on the bourgeois culture!

Y 10 : (Coron, Bacde, Pooky,BabyJ, Shamrock, Glork, Thok, Twomz, mysterymeat, Vaughn, Viper0933)

Shamrock 2 : (Tamuz, Y)
Bacde 1 : (Machiavellian-Mafia)

Folks, that's a lynch.

Who was Y?

Y was Lin Biao, Mao's slavish goon and architect of Mao's personality cult. He had recruiting powers...

Night choices due this Wednesday, May 17, 9:00 EST.

[Hop Shui]

Everyone assembles at Red Square for a state funeral!

Wail for

Thok

, the courageous

Marshall Peng Dehuai

whose stand against Mao's policies during the Great Leap Forward earned him to spend the rest of his life in disgrace. What a great, principled, brave man we have lost! A devoted Maoist found his hiding place, and executed him.

Oh, yes,

Glork

, aka

Ding Chen, Chen Mason Group

died of complications from dysentery. First he was given useless medication, then he was given the wrong medication... when the Maoists came for him... it was too late.

Sixteen left... nine kicks to the head to knock out permanently!

[Twomz]

Well, i'm not that surprised at Glork dieing (CES died last night... so... yeah). As far as I can tell Thok is/was vanilla.

I suppose we're waiting on chamber to check in before we proceed with the day, correct? (although, not to give his info... just to check in...)

[VisMaior]

What! 10 minutes after the opening of the thread, and I already have a prod... :shocked: I feel wanted

Glork dieing was expected. I wonder whats with the wrong medication.

[VisMaior]

/s/:shocked:/:shock:

[BabyJesus]

Everyone assembles at Red Square for a state funeral!

Oh, yes,

Glork

, aka

Ding Chen, Chen Mason Group

died of complications from dysentery. First he was given useless medication, then he was given the wrong medication... when the Maoists came for him... it was too late.

Sixteen left... nine kicks to the head to knock out permanently!

Useless medication. Nice. So we have two barefoot doctors, I guess one whose 's medication is sometimes useless, and one who's is sometimes wrong/fatal?

Also, nice to see my "always lynch the doc" policy paid off!

[Vaughn]

Also, nice to see my "always lynch the doc" policy paid off!

grin

[Thok]

Go town!

[Y]

Go town!

Go Maoists?

[Yosarian2]

Everyone assembles at Red Square for a state funeral!

Oh, yes,

Glork

, aka

Ding Chen, Chen Mason Group

died of complications from dysentery. First he was given useless medication, then he was given the wrong medication... when the Maoists came for him... it was too late.

Sixteen left... nine kicks to the head to knock out permanently!

Useless medication. Nice. So we have two barefoot doctors, I guess one whose 's medication is sometimes useless, and one who's is sometimes wrong/fatal?

Could be. Could be we have a doc with a chance of lethal failure, or two docs with different possible results. I think my earlier speculation about having one insane doc is probably wrong; if a doc was completly insane (in other words, basically a vig), he would know it by know, and I doubt he would target Glork, unless he's some kind of odd bad guy role.

From the way the night scene is worded, I also wonder if the line "when the Maoists came for him..." means anything. Perhaps the maoists would have killed him last night if the doc didn't?

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

I think Yos pointed out something interesting in his post above this one. "The Maoists came for him" probably means that scum targetted glork in addition to the docs. So I think now the two scum groups are exclusively doing kills since both their recruiters are dead too.

[Glork]

Gosh, I totally didn't see that one coming...


Bah! Go town!

[Tamuz]

I'm afraid my children have betrayed me...

But I wonder why Glork lied to me in 532