Post Restriction Mafia MEGA - It's Over!

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Um uh yeah...t-time to v-vote, I supp-pose?

V-vote: the s-silent speaker

C-contradiction!

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vote:machiavellan mafia

He may have just said he was scum, and most of us wouldn't have a clue.

Um...uh, I can tr-translate b-because I t-take Spanish in school. S-so I'll do that n-now.

In MM's first p-post, h-he said:
Th-there already are m-many uh...interesting um-uh...things that occurred in th-this game. I am going to v-vote Rosso Carne be-because "carne" (m-meat) is a Sp-Spanish word.

In his s-second post, he s-said:
Ch-ChannelDelibird and Nixame used the w-word "quack"...v-very interesting...um uh um...probably the s-same alignment?

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Do scum have restrictions too?

Um...uh...I r-read the last g-game, and m-mafia didn't have re-restrictions. They h-had to f-fake them. IIRC, there w-was also a v-vanilla without a re-restriction. You'd be b-better off asking T-Twomz though, um...uh...who p-played in that g-game.

Even if I'm r-right though...uh...um...it m-may not be exactly th-the same f-for this g-game.

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Um...is it r-really a good idea t-to express suspicions this early in t-the g-game based solely on post r-restrictions? Shouldn't we f-focus more on behavior? I suppose we can s-see if players g-get modkilled for m-missing a r-restriction, and v-vote those who don't g-get modkilled, but I p-personally think it's t-too early to j-judge solely based on r-restrictions.

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I'm not convinced by themanhimself's claim - it's quack, frankly. The fact that dragyn_mage, the person you 'copied', was prepared to vote for you after you acquired your restriction does it for me. You've been quacked, tmh.

I agree w-with this point, and believe t-themanhimself is um...uh...scum. B-but, I'm not sure about allowing t-tss to drop t-the hammer. W-what does everyone else t-think of uh...tss' need to h-hammer? Personally, I t-think he's town, b-but I'm n-not completely s-sure. Since I'm in-inclined to believe him t-though...

Unvote, V-vote: t-themanhimself

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I t-think tss has some um...g-good points in uh...his p-post 167. In addition, m-my gut says T-Twomz' restriction is f-fake. I'm n-not sure I buy the sh-short attention sp-span as uh...um...a real re-restriction. I'm sticking w-with what I said yesterday about n-not lynching solely on r-restrictions and how r-realistic they are, but I f-feel that it is an additional r-reason to vote Twomz h-here.

V-Vote: Twomz

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Thedocsalive says that he doesn't think my restriction is real (although he said he wouldn't vote for people for that reason... Confused.)

I s-said I um...uh...wouldn't vote people s-solely based on r-restrictions. I only m-mentioned your r-restriction as an additional t-thought. The main r-reason for my v-vote is tss' p-post 167.

I'm uh...c-confused by V-Vaughn's p-posting in this g-game. He's m-made a f-few posts, with a v-vote or v-vote change in every um...one, but has added very l-little discussion. His latest v-vote on a claimed m-mason stands out, IMO.

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"A t-town just l-lynched Twomz in another g-game where...um...uh...h-he claimed to be a g-good guy, and he was a good g-guy! N-now I am one h-hundred percent s-sure that Twomz is g-good in this game also."--MM

The t-translation is not p-perfect, but I t-think it gets the p-point across. If I made any m-major mistakes, s-say so in your n-next post, MM.

I d-disagree with this p-post, um...however. Uh...I don't think we c-can assume that his c-claim is true just b-because it w-was in another g-game. I think it's p-pretty b-bold to say you're one h-hundred percent s-sure about the t-townie claim.

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S-still like my T-Twomz vote for his s-scummy behavior in relation to the d-duo killer. T-there is a relationship t-there, IMO, and it's certainly w-worth um...uh...the lynch.

As for the s-strategy in general, I d-disagree with it. C-claiming vanilla early D1, if t-true, only h-helps p-point scum to p-power roles. S-similarly, it c-can endanger you in g-games where you

d-don't

c-claim vanilla, as there is a h-higher chance of you b-being scum. I r-really don't see it being um...h-helpful. And t-that's assuming he t-tells the truth each t-time.

@Tamuz: W-why do you t-think MM is s-scum?

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In p-post 228, Twomz f-followed his restriction, I t-think.

Schpeal? speel? How on Earth do you spell that? I hate not being good at spelling.. Sad.

r-riktus: your p-posts are um...r-readable, IMO.

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For t-those p-players who d-don't want to l-lynch Twomz (the s-silent majority, it s-seems): who is a b-better choice and w-why? P-personally, I still think T-twomz should be lynched. There are n-nine p-people voting um...uh...Twomz, and TSS w-wants to v-vote him. What d-does everyone else th-think?

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W-well, according to the um...uh...d-deadline rules, the p-player with the most v-votes will be l-lynched at d-deadline. If things st-stay the same way they are n-now, T-Twomz will be lynched. I'm p-personally in f-favor of this l-lynch, so I d-don't really m-mind it. Those of you against it, h-however, should t-try to form another c-case if you b-believe Twomz to be t-town.

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M-M s-said: I t-think that M-mister DrippingGoofball is m-more likely to b-bea b-bad guy w-without a r-restriction than a g-good guy...um...uh...without a r-restriction. Unvote, V-vote DGB.

I agree h-here. Even if t-there are t-townies without r-restrictions, they are probably m-much fewer in n-number than t-townies with r-restrictions. It's v-very possible that DGB is l-lying. It is p-probable that the b-bad guys don't have any r-restrictions, so we c-can't let p-people off the h-hook that d-don't h-have any or l-lie about t-them, even if t-they are t-town. I also agree w-with TSS that t-this would be a t-terrible restriction to f-fake as a p-pro town p-player.

Unvote: T-twomz, V-vote: DrippingGoofball

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H-here, but I n-need to t-take a better l-look at the g-game. I'll d-do that by M-Monday, I um...uh...expect.

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T-Twomz' mistake r-relating to TSS in his l-last post is um..uh...intriguing. Not n-noticing someone who is d-dead is a p-pretty big m-mistake, IMO. I d-don't see how that c-can happen.

L-looking back at y-yesterday, I f-found this p-post to be particularly s-standing out:

Do you get an investigation or something if you Hammer?

It doesnt sound like a Scum power so I guess we dont really want to know

W-While I admit I b-believed TSS' role y-yesterday as well, DH's w-wording seems a l-little off to me h-here. Especially t-the p-part "so I guess we dont really want to know." I'm h-happy to s-start today with a:

V-vote: Der H-Hammer

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Actually, I t-think that um...uh...ubertimmy's r-restriction is c-clear, and apparent in all t-three of his p-posts. While h-he's expressed it d-differently, t-there is a c-common t-thing in all of t-them.

Unvote: D-Der H-Hammer

. I r-really only h-had a minor p-point there.

R-Rosso: Why was m-metagaming valid y-yesterday, and n-not today?

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Deawy me.
That may be an added weason on top of the aweady good and mounting weasons to vote twomz. The confusion that wouwd huwt me with no wationaw weason.

I d-don't understand h-how um...uh...mixing up y-you and T-Twomz is a g-good r-reason to v-vote Twomz. Could y-you explain f-further?

Actually, there is no connection at all. I thought I saw what you saw (fan boy/stalker), but that restriction is so subjective its impossible to keep up.

H-how is t-that any m-more subjective t-than some others we've s-seen? It's p-pretty easy to k-keep up, and p-pretty obvious in t-timmy's posting.

B. I think that MrBuddyLee smurfs the Smurfiest Use of the Quack Restriction award for his homage to SoaP.

*N-nods head*

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I s-still don't understand t-the ubertimmy v-votes, as I t-think his r-restriction is clear. I t-think Yos has a g-good point about P-PBuG and how he c-could post b-better given his um...uh...r-restriction.

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H-hi. N-not sure where to h-head at this p-point. While T-Twomz' play has n-not b-been um...uh...great, it is also c-consistent with his p-play as t-town in other g-games.

M-mod:

a votecount would b-be helpful, p-please.

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Let's-

vote-Yosarian2

-though-probably-nothing-will-happen.

Any r-reason for the v-vote?

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I t-think I'll t-take a look at the r-restrictions in this g-game and see w-which ones are obvious, and w-which are um...uh...n-not. M-most likely the scum are f-faking restrictions, so we n-need to s-see which are f-fake, or which are n-not there at all.

Ch-ChannelDelibird - quack
D-Der Hammer - no obvious r-restriction AFAIK, b-but c-claimed p-person leaving n-notes stopping l-lynches before each d-day
Y-Yosarian2 - r-rhyme
T-Tamuz - Elmer F-Fudd
P-Primate - army r-recruit or something s-similar
Oberon - l-lawyer
armlx - n-not apparent to m-me, b-but apparently it t-triggers
th-thedocsalive - s-stutters
ubertimmy - s-stalker/f-fanboyish, not s-sure
s-stikey - s-smurf
r-riktus - m-misspelling
b-bertrand - underline every other w-word
P-PBuG - can only p-post a few t-times per d-day

What s-stands out h-here? IMO, P-PBug's just s-seems like an excuse to l-lurk. M-most others are v-viable, IMO. I t-think I'll

V-vote: P-PBuG

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R-regardless of the f-flavor behind the r-restriction, every p-player has something h-he/she has to d-do in each um...uh...post, with th-the exception of P-PBuG. Th-that's why I find his r-restriction m-most outstanding. All others are r-restricting the actual p-posts of players, while h-his just r-restricts the n-number of posts he c-can make.

H-however, it s-seems like b-bertrand is a good option as w-well, as underlining every other w-word could be v-very flavorless.

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J-just a r-reminder: the d-ducks failed their r-restrictions multiple t-times, yet were n-not modkilled. I agree b-bertrand is a g-good vote t-today, b-but m-missing his restriction isn't a s-strong enough r-reason alone.

My r-role does n-not r-relate to c-cocaine, P-PBuG.

1. Primate smurfs my world. His posts are the highlight of my day.

T-try z-ziliu's posts in M-Mini 316.

Unvote: P-PBuG, V-Vote: b-bertrand

. Th-that puts him at f-five, l-lynch minus t-two.

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T-Tamuz, I s-stand by the f-fact that f-failing a restriction and um...uh...l-living isn't reason alone to v-vote bertrand. H-however, I feel th-that the r-restriction seems f-flavorlless and d-doesn't seem like a r-real role. In addition, I also f-feel that P-Primate has a good point with the f-following quote:

The thing that really convinces me of your scumminess is the fact that you hounded Twomz like a dog after he missed his restriction, using that as the major excuse for your own vote, even if it wasn't the reason for the entire wagon. I find it hard to believe that someone who had posted without following a restriction twice would then attack someone for exactly the same reason. If anything, you should have defended him, pointing out your own posts as an example.

As I s-said, I'd still p-prefer a P-PBuG lynch, as his r-restriction d-doesn't affect his actual p-posts. B-but since n-no one else s-seems to agree, a l-lone vote on h-him isn't r-really helpful.

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You're not even trying. Fight like a man, don't just lay down and die!

Indeed, r-recent experience h-has sh-shown m-me that qu-quitters t-tend to be s-scum. F-for those who d-don't know, ch-check out um...uh...mini 340. And even if h-he is p-pro-town, f-failing to d-defend himself isn't h-helpful. b-bertrand d-didn't notice th-the accusations against h-him, even th-though they were c-clearly there.

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W-well, we already have a d-dead doctor, so I d-don't know how that affects b-bertrand's um...uh...c-claim in t-terms of l-likelihood. While I've s-seen a role like th-that before, I d-don't think it's very useful, even if it is t-true. b-bertrand would w-want to use th-the d-doc part on a p-player he b-believes to be p-pro-town, while h-he would w-want to use the k-kill p-part on a p-player he b-believes to b-be anti-town.

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Good game, everyone. I took from the flavor of my role PM that it would be bad if I was caught, not good. I DID make the connection between "police" and "cop," but I didn't think it would be beneficial for me to come out. I probably would have kept stuttering even if I had found the rehab specialist, as it would be pretty suspicious if I just stopped.

Also, I chose to stay town because I felt loyalty to my original win condition. I don't think someone's win condition should change during a game, unless done by force (for example, being recruited by a cult).

I agree the mafia played well, and could have earned a win here. They had some bad luck. Very nice play by Oberon to pull it off in the end, though!