Open 395: Carbon-14 (Game Over-Scum Victory)

[TvK]

Luckily Om kept asking for a real reason and this was the response:

Elmo is town because he's not scum.

And by that I'm sayin he hasn't done anything scummy enough

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Read the bold part. Elmo hasn't done anything scummy enough. Well, I would have loved to hear where I did something scummy enough to have his vote. And not just a vote, even an L-1 vote.

The pingpong between Om and MB goes on for a couple more posts until MB makes his final statement about Elmo:

The primary thing is probably when I asked him to unvote Chrimi he did promptly. I don't see why scum would unvote.

Also pay attention to the "probably". It's like he hasn't even made up his mind. A bit later he unvotes me, as he notices my wagon is't going anywhere. In the same post he declares again that Elmo is town.

Then he turns to Om. After he reread everything, Om and I are definitely the scumteam. Finally he also gives a reason to why I am part of the scumteam, as I apparently am trying to bus Om. Now pay attention to how the Om wagon develops. Elmo was already on it, then MB joined him with his case and what's next? MB makes some posts to defend his case and that's it. The wagon has taken off. The next two pages, neither Elmo nor MB made any useful post. Then MB returns with his "I think this is scummy because..." post. Note this:

My comments are underlined.

Ok, lets try this again. Comments are in bold.

At least Im generation discussion and putting people in awkward positions.

Wow this is so bad it's re-vote worthy.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN

Everything exploded o_o

I think Elmo's townish.
I don't even know what to think about Emp or LS.
I'm still for a TvK lynch. And I still don't see a claim from him.
Chrimi wanting to hammer before TvK claimed isn't good.

I don't know much else besides that right now.

Why is Elmo town? Why should TvK claim now that he's not at L-1?
This is a perfect example of Moneybags doing nothing but standing by waiting for a lynch. This is why we need to lynch him tomorrow.

What even is this.

I think this is scummy because: Now Elmo is townish? And I'm scum again. Elmo didn't work apparently.

Misrep, when did I ever say in that post that I thougt Elmo was town. I just revoted him even though I was already on his wagon.

After this, more of the townspeople discussing about which townie would be the right lynch. But first more of this:

And + towncred to Elmo. If he was scum why change wagons when you can keep on the one about to happen.

More for Elmo coming next.

[TvK]

Look at Elmo's play throughout the game. In the beginning: putting Chrimi on L-1, unvoting, putting Chrimi on L-1, unvoting again. Then he went on a voting spree.

First LS, but in the same post he switched to me. Next page it's Emp. After this, when Om replaced in and he unvoted when my wagon reached L-1, Elmo's vote was on Om.

Om and Emp clearly found him suspicious, especially the way how he switched his vote to Om and they started a wagon.

The next posts are all kind of the same. Elmo trying to make Om look bad and not worrying about his own wagon.

And that's it. Nothing more for the next 7 pages. Some small posts including one where he says that an MB/Elmo team "would be lovely".

Finally, five pages later, he goes back to vote for Chrimi, only to unvote him in his next post. Strange post btw:

I did not see everybody jumping off the wagon and coming to lynch me. WTF is up with Elmo's redirection?!

VOTE: Elmo

Im not redirecting. Do I think one of you/Om is scum Yes. Do I like your OMGUS? No
UNVOTE: Chrimi

His next posts are nothing again, until again another vote:

I still want an Om flip/
VOTE: Om

And that's his last post for day 1, except for not CCing the cop.

[TvK]

Btw LS and Emp, know that if you vote me, Elmo will jump on me game will be over.

[Empking]

At current I'm leaning towards TVK to be the seer. I'm not liking the recent posts by him though, it seems like he's trying to wall us to death.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Btw LS and Emp, know that if you vote me, Elmo will jump on me game will be over.

Not true. But it is funny how one of you has to be scum due to no quick votes

[Lastsurvivor]

There's nothing particularly wrong with walling us to death. I like that he's trying, even if I don't have the time to actually go through it and see if it's valid.

Elmo, do you still think TvK and MB are bussing?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Not sure. I can tell you one is scum and one town from Joe this.played out

[Lastsurvivor]

You do realize that if they were bussing each other then we'd have no seer right...?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

>_>
For some reason I thought you claimed seer....
But yeah

[Lastsurvivor]

Well MB did ask you who the Seer would be if he was bussing iirc.

[Empking]

There's nothing particularly wrong with walling us to death. I like that he's trying, even if I don't have the time to actually go through it and see if it's valid.

Its trying that helps scum-him more than it helps town-him.

[Lastsurvivor]

Eh. I think I see what you're saying. Like, why does he need to give an MB case since we all know that, from his perspective, he thinks MB's scum? I looked at it more from he's trying to save the game (since we are in LYLO), but meh.

[Lord Mhork]

Vote Count 2.03

Moneybags (1) TvK
TvK (1) Moneybags
Empking (0)
Elmo TeH AzN (0)
Lastsurvivor (0)

Not Voting:

Elmo TeH AzN
Lastsurvivor
Empking

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

V/LA

Night falls in (expired on 2012-05-30 19:00:00)

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Now that I went dumb in this game as well we have 2 seer claims and the rest are VT
Seer claims are MB & TvK.
We know one of them is scum.

[Lastsurvivor]

MB what do you think about the case against you

[Moneybags]

Sorry, more life V/LA stuff. I've been trying to keep up. I should be back to regular Mafia maintenance in a few days.

As for everything I'm not quite sure right now. I haven't been able to ISO TvK yet so I don't really have anything solid on him other than I've had an odd feeling about him (which is often right with me aside from Om =/) and that he's cc'd me. I'll try and work up a response to his walls.

I wasn't expecting a cc and I haven't been in LYLO sense my first game. So I'll try not to totally blow this =/

[Lastsurvivor]

Have you expressed this odd feeling about TvK?

[Moneybags]

I've just fos'd him a lot D1. As in the early vote, matching him as Om's buddy (despite the fact Om actually flipped town), etc. And I know that can look like "HAY GUIEZ, SEE I FOSED HIM ALL ALONG!" But what are the chances that I've had this feeling, and then he cc's me. It's just one of those things you know?

[Lastsurvivor]

Yeah, I suppose.

So who do you think the other scum is then?

[Moneybags]

I'm not too sure, but by a matter of elimination I think it'd be Emp. I'm sort of 'whatever' on him but you seem town and Elmo seems town. So I'd have to say it's those two.

[Empking]

Nice job sucking up to them.

[Vote: Moneuybags

[Moneybags]

Well if I'm wrong about either of them town just lost.

[Lastsurvivor]

Hm.

The team is either TvK/Emp, or MB's scum. If MB's scum then his partner is whoever.

I'm assuming this since Elmo has posted in other areas on the site and hasn't jumped on a hammer.

[Lastsurvivor]

For those that have played in LYLO before (this is my first time...): would ScumEmp have jumped on a SeerMB wagon? Or would he have waited for someone else to vote for SeerMB and then quickhammer?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I thought I posted in here. Na just thinking about this game