Mini 362 - Open Role Bastard Mafia (Game Over)

M4yhem · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:21 am

True, Zindaras. But you lose out on the fabulous mystery prize...

ShadowLurker · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:26 am

chamber wrote:
M4yhem wrote:Fritzler-Thanks.

Here's my real roleclaim. I'm the mathematics professor. At the start of the day Pariah told me I had to get the cop or doc to claim, and then get the whole town to vote no lynch. If I do this something happens. I'm guessing it's good for the town because otherwise the game would be unbalanced. If I don't manage to do this, I get fired, which is probably bad for me.

All you have to do to test my claim is
unvote, vote:no lynch
LOL

''

Unvote, Vote: M4yhem

Zindaras · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:26 am

M4yhem wrote:True, Zindaras. But you lose out on the fabulous mystery prize...

A knife in the back?

Sorry, but no.

Even if you are the mathematics professor, you could've just claimed it right off the bat instead of doing it this way.

Getting counterclaimed isn't a good way to stay alive.

M4yhem · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:31 am

I did think about it, Zindaras. But I decided that the real cop probably wouldn't help me out. This seemed the easiest way of getting at least half the stuff I was meant to get done.

Go back and check how often I mentioned no lynch in my posts.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:32 am

themanhimself wrote:
M4yhem wrote: Specifics: I am the town-aligned insane crazy cop. To paraphrase: Every night I send the mod a name, he tells me if they're bad or good and what role they have.
Who did you investigate last night. Also I have some doubts that the mod would have said in your PM that you were insane. That kind of defeats the purpose. Although there is no reason for you to be lying.

Have you even read the rules? Getting ALL these things mixed up is ridicolous
1) Right in the roles it says INSANE cop
2) We started with day

Ugh, looks like I have to throw my LoS out the window. I was sure Nai, M4yhem and SV were town, and thought kirby, Twomz, Thesp, and theman were the most suspicious. Everybody else was in between. Now I may have to recalibrate all that.. =/

M4yhem, if you really are town aligned, then that was one of the STUPIDEST things I have ever seen.

M4yhem · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:33 am

I never claimed to be smart, ShadowLurker.

Zindaras · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:34 am

M4yhem wrote:I did think about it, Zindaras. But I decided that the real cop probably wouldn't help me out. This seemed the easiest way of getting at least half the stuff I was meant to get done.

Yes. Except that doing one half, purposefully, makes the other half impossible, because noone is going to believe it.

Getting fired>Getting lynched.

M4yhem · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:37 am

I'm curious, Zindaras; how would you have done it? This honestly seemed
like the best way to me. When I claimed I thought I was pretty much dead anyway; I just wanted some sort of success.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:41 am

M4yhem wrote:I'm curious, Zindaras; how would you have done it? This honestly seemed
like the best way to me. When I claimed I thought I was pretty much dead anyway; I just wanted some sort of success.

If you were pretty much dead anyway, you should've known there would be ZERO success.

Also, your idea of success is getting one of the best protown roles rooted out and then getting lynched?

Zindaras · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:52 am

M4yhem wrote:I'm curious, Zindaras; how would you have done it? This honestly seemed
like the best way to me. When I claimed I thought I was pretty much dead anyway; I just wanted some sort of success.

First post, claim Mathematics Professor and what you have to do, and

leave the decision to the town

.

That's the only way to actually get the cop to claim (other ways aren't ones you can influence but are dependant on luck) and not die yourself.

You may achieve the first, but you can't achieve the second like that.

Also, the role was made for me. I've played with roles like that before in Chatmafias. I once had the mod add another clause to the role twice, just because I was winning way too quickly.

M4yhem · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:57 am

ShadowLurker- I don't think I know what I'm doing.

Zindaras- I've never been fond of early claiming. But yeah, you're probably right.

Can we swap roles now? No, I guess not. I just thought the mod would probably want me to keep the role secret. I don't know why. To be honest, I didn't put that much thought into any of this.

Twomz · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:18 am

^^^ zind makes a good point. Also, unless a mafiaso dies or something, there's very little good that can come from the cop claiming... also, how do you know it's really the cop claiming? It's MUCH safer to lynch you.

If the real professor DOES NOT claim, and just votes for mayhem, that'd be great, just in case... we don't want all our powerroles revealed because of one person.

kirbyphreak · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:32 am

Methinks SL, m4yhem, TMH be the scum. Just guesses. Also, it seems to me if thats what the math professor is trying to do, we dont want him here anyway. Vote stays.

Twomz · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:54 am

Opps, i missed the last page. But yeah, this is why I said at the beginning that claiming shouldn't be looked upon to highly in this game.

I pretty much agree w/ Kirby... although that'd be way too easy, one of them is probably just a misguided townie.

Thesp · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:19 pm

Unvote: ShadowLurker, Vote: M4yhem.

Sounds like a scum condition to me.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:36 pm

kirbyphreak wrote:Methinks SL, m4yhem, TMH be the scum. Just guesses. Also, it seems to me if thats what the math professor is trying to do, we dont want him here anyway. Vote stays.

They're not guesses, they're OMGUSes. Nice putting the only two people who voted for you non randomly next to the obvious scum with zero reasoning.

themanhimself · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:01 pm

kirbyphreak wrote:Methinks TMH be the scum.

Based on what. We have played several games together. You know my typical style of play. This is it. I say we keep M4yhem around for now, let him give us info tomorrow, and lynch SL today. Math professors are just as likely to work against us anyway.

Thesp · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:04 pm

M4yhem wrote:Fritzler-Thanks.

Here's my real roleclaim. I'm the mathematics professor. At the start of the day Pariah told me I had to get the cop or doc to claim, and then get the whole town to vote no lynch. If I do this something happens. I'm guessing it's good for the town because otherwise the game would be unbalanced. If I don't manage to do this, I get fired, which is probably bad for me.

All you have to do to test my claim is unvote, vote:no lynch

Lynch All Liars. Seriously. This day doesn't need to continue. It seems even more likely that the conditions he stated do something beneficial for the scum than for the town.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:23 pm

themanhimself wrote:
kirbyphreak wrote:Methinks TMH be the scum.
Based on what. We have played several games together. You know my typical style of play. This is it. I say we keep M4yhem around for now, let him give us info tomorrow, and lynch SL today.

Math professors are just as likely to work against us anyway.

Yeah, and now you just got bumped up a notch in our scum list.

Are you actually suggesting we go no lynch to get the info? And then in the NEXT SENTENCE, you say he could be working against us.

Bogre · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:11 pm

Ok. Claiming math teacher still doesn't mean you aren't scum, Mayhem. Your scum objective would be to get the doc or cop to claim (a good scum objective, don't you think?), and then your benefit might be getting them bastardized or having them roleblocked that night plus your knowledge to kill them.

You flip flopped with SL in scumminess, but can we have a vote count? Can the town agree that mayhem's a good lynch for today?

1. He's not the cop, thus the reason why SL is a better lynch is negated.
2. Can still be scum.
3. He lied.

Thesp · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:31 pm

Bogre wrote:You flip flopped with SL in scumminess, but can we have a vote count? Can the town agree that mayhem's a good lynch for today?

Yes.

FOS: Bogre.

The quoted statement is scummy for two reasons. (

Maybe

three, but a bona fide two.) Bonus points to the first person to point them out.

Nai · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:41 pm

Thesp, I highly doubted that Cop would end up being scum. It just wouldn't make any sense. There's no point in a Scum Cop, y'know? It's not a role cop, so there's no point in there. However, this was before today happened, and I just got back.

I'm ready to lynch M4yhem. He sounded town, acted town, and now he's falling under the 'lynch all liars' rule, which I agree to. I'm not sure if he's already dead, but I'll hammer him if needed.

Unvote, Vote: M4yhem.

Twomz · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:54 pm

Nai, the scum roles/alignments are chosen AT RANDOM. It's completely possible that the cop is scum. Read the first post plz.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:54 pm

I'm guessing this is twilight or will be pretty soon.

Oh and Thesp, do I win cookies if..
1. Vote Count, still needs to look at votes before making a decision?
2. Asking if the town agrees, read the posts and look at who's voting.
(3) "the town"

Thesp · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:00 pm

ShadowLurker wrote:I'm guessing this is twilight or will be pretty soon.

Oh and Thesp, do I win cookies if..
1. Vote Count, still needs to look at votes before making a decision?
2. Asking if the town agrees, read the posts and look at who's voting.
(3) "the town"

Very good! Actually, (1) is the one I think might be a tell (stall tactic, perhaps), whereas (2) and (3) are definitely tells. He's looking for the town's approval before acting, and referring to the town in 3rd person here is very unusual. (Sometimes it fits, but it sticks out here to me.)

Bonus cookies for you!