NY 160: Terrible Melodrama Mafia (Game Over)

[Nero Cain]

You think scum would have a powerrole safeclaim? o.O

Why wouldn't they have powerole safeclaims?

[DeasVail]

Vote Count 1.12

Nero Cain (5)- Plan B, adorkable, PiggyGal15, Senjai, 4nxi3ty
N (4)- Demon Core, Toon Fighter, RedCoyote, DoomYoshi
PiggyGal15 (3)- Cletus+Brandine, Untrod Tripod, Nero Cain
Cletus+Brandine (1)- JacobSavage
Senjai (1)- Empking
Toon Fighter (1)- N

Not voting: No one!

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

V/LA

Nero Cain

Deadline

14th November, 6am AEDT

[Nero Cain]

I'M ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED?!?!

I'll go ahread and role claim since I don't think I'll be on the computer again till the 13th but I'm a town roleblocker.

[Toon Fighter]

I'M ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED?!?!

I'll go ahread and role claim since I don't think I'll be on the computer again till the 13th but I'm a town roleblocker.

don't like that claim

unvote, vote: NC

die, scum

[Demon Core]

You think scum would have a powerrole safeclaim? o.O

Why wouldn't they have powerole safeclaims?

Have you EVER seen scum get powerrole safeclaims in a non-theme game NC? If so, when was that? 2 years ago in a game where everyone was a PR?

If PiggyGal is lying about anything, it's not her ability, it's her alignment (unless she's a total moron, but I don't make her for one). That's the last thing I'm saying about this because the amount of /herpderp people are pulling is getting toxic.

[Demon Core]

NC's officially dropped off my scum list.

[Nero Cain]

I'M ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED?!?!

I'll go ahread and role claim since I don't think I'll be on the computer again till the 13th but I'm a town roleblocker.

don't like that claim

unvote, vote: NC

die, scum

What don't you like about it?

You think scum would have a powerrole safeclaim? o.O

Why wouldn't they have powerole safeclaims?

Have you EVER seen scum get powerrole safeclaims in a non-theme game NC? If so, when was that?

I don't know about non theme 'cause I play mostly theme games so I wouldn't really know but I don't think there'd be a diffrence. Still I agree that she'd be lying about her alignment more than her role.

[PiggyGal15]

That was the fakest claim I have literally ever seen. How in the world does that make NS drop off your scum list, DC?

[Demon Core]

Mafia Roleblocker 101: Claim Jailkeeper or VT, but whatever you do don't claim town roleblocker

Unless it's an innocent child or mason claim, I treat claims as null anyway. My problem is that you and adorkable are on the NC wagon and thus, it's toxic.

[N]

@N: you quoted my post but I saw no response. Y U No ANSWER?

I'M ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED?!?!

I'll go ahread and role claim since I don't think I'll be on the computer again till the 13th but I'm a town roleblocker.

You were at L-3 when you made this claim; wqhy did you make it? You've been saying stuff like "just because Piggy's a claimed PR doesn't mean we shouldn't lynch her" and "her claim can just as easily be a scum role", and then your own claim is roleblocker, which I've never played with but according to the wiki "have been known to be of either alignment, though Roleblocker is probably the most common Mafia power role."

And earlier, you said this:

Spoiler:

I’m really thinkin’ that Plan B is scum with Piggy. He’s really fence sitting on her. Joins the Jacob wagon then calls me scummy for not finding Jacob scummy then when the Jacob wagon starts to loose steam he jumps off for finding Jacob not scummy. (HELLO CONJETIVE DISSONANCE!!!) And he didn’t answer my last question which really annoys me.

Vote:piggy

If it’s a scum slot then there’s no reason to trust here results so if she flips scum then I bet she has some buddies in the group saying “let her live.”

This is stupid reasoning. She's claimed a PR; why do you want to lynch her

today

? If she continues to be scummy in future days, we can lynch her and at least we'll have some results if he does actually flip town. If she does flip scum, we'll have relationship tells to use.

But its a scum slot. Her "WE AREN'T LYNCHING CLAIMED PRS WITHOUT A CC!!!" Sounds a ton like scum with a safeclaim. And unless you want to help me lynch Plan B or Senj then I don't really know what to say.

So what was the point in claiming if you think it doesn't matter if someone's claimed? You're being pretty hypocritical - "Piggy's claim could be faked by scum; let's lynch her anyway" vs "I'm a (usually scum) role; don't lynch me"

UNVOTE:
I want to vote for Nero, but that would be L-1 and be open to quickhammers.

Yeah my post is wierd but I didn't do anything. I think both you and Plan B are gonna flip scum. Your play is terrible. I don't know if plan B's fence sitting on you is more likely buddy play or scum that knows you aren't on his team. Nor do I like Adorks "well she's claimed, lets let someone else claim while leaving her to be lynched later." Though I will admit that Plan B and Adorks play towords you

screams

scum to me but there's little or no intrest in lynching either slot, and I know that I'm town and I don't have a scum read on N. So unless there's a shitload of Plan B/Adork/Senji intrest in the next few days then getting rid of bad pork is better then a no lynch.

This post confuses me. Do you think there are two scum teams? It seems like you're calling both Plan B and Piggy scum, but also saying they're not scum together.

That was the fakest claim I have literally ever seen. How in the world does that make NS drop off your scum list, DC?

NS=Nobody Special? He's not in this game, is he? Or do you mean Number Six, who has been replaced?
...Oh wait, it's probably meant to be NC. Never mind.

Is it the claim itself or the posts in the build up to the claim that makes you disbelieve it? I think we'd be incredibly unlucky for the first two wagons run up to a claim both being town PRs.

[PiggyGal15]

Yeah, but the

good

kind of toxic

(p-edit: N!!!! HOW DARE YOU POST BEFORE I CAN MAKE MY JOKE D:<)

[Demon Core]

ITT, N is relieved that Nero Cain bumbled his claim and is scrambling to take advantage of it.

[N]

ITT, N is relieved that Nero Cain bumbled his claim and is scrambling to take advantage of it.

So you believe his claim?

[Demon Core]

Ya'll aren't even attacking the weakest part of NC's claim, which is the possible FAEKRAGECAPSLOCKPART.

It's pretty much "lulzmafiaroleblocker"

(the "capsrage" part is actually still bugging me)

[Demon Core]

ITT, N is relieved that Nero Cain bumbled his claim and is scrambling to take advantage of it.

So you believe his claim?

Yeah, let's go with that.

[Untrod Tripod]

oh look, empking and doomyoshi are scum together how adorable

I read N as town. I don't like NC for a lynch today. I would much prefer piggy.

[PiggyGal15]

DC, what part of "that claim was the

fakest

I've ever seen" did you not understand to come from the FAKERAGECAPSLOCK part? Because that's what I was referring to, and that's why my vote stays on NC. Call it WIFOM, but I think he's scum trying to WIFOM our WIFOM so we get into a WIFOM discussion and - NO! That's not happening, because he's scum, and needs to realize whatever "joke" he was trying to pull isn't going to work ^.^

[N]

ITT, N is relieved that Nero Cain bumbled his claim and is scrambling to take advantage of it.

So you believe his claim?

Yeah, let's go with that.

Was that a hard question to answer? What made him "officially drop off your scum list"?

I don't like NC for a lynch today. I would much prefer piggy.

Piggy's claim is more easily verifiable tomorrow. Well, easier to get results from at any rate. Nero can say he blocked someone and we'd have no way of knowing if it's true (unless they were a cop that received a no result, I guess), whereas Piggy can give us definite results.

I think he's scum trying to WIFOM our WIFOM

Whose WIFOM is "our" WIFOM?

[Demon Core]

DC, what part of "that claim was the

fakest

I've ever seen" did you not understand to come from the FAKERAGECAPSLOCK part? Because that's what I was referring to, and that's why my vote stays on NC. Call it WIFOM, but I think he's scum trying to WIFOM our WIFOM so we get into a WIFOM discussion and - NO! That's not happening, because he's scum, and needs to realize whatever "joke" he was trying to pull isn't going to work ^.^

/oh

See, I was right about piggygal not being a moron.

/patsselfonback

[Empking]

I didn't think NC was scum before the claim, I don't think he's scum after the claim.

[adorkable]

You think scum would have a powerrole safeclaim? o.O

Why wouldn't they have powerole safeclaims?

Name me one game where a mod has done this.

You only get full credit if it's a mini or large normal.

I don't know about non theme 'cause I play mostly theme games so I wouldn't really know but I don't think there'd be a diffrence.

There's a huge difference.

Mafia Roleblocker 101: Claim Jailkeeper or VT, but whatever you do don't claim town roleblocker

Ehhhhh. We were just in a game as town roleblocker and were gonna claim JoaT if we were ever brought to lynch because we thought we'd get autolynched if we claimed town RB. It's meta, but you kinda do have a point.

I don't give him a full townpass yet, but we can always direct his blocks (and piggy's watches)...

unvote

Town RB

and

town Watcher make sense together balance-wise. My other head wants to note she thinks it's unlikely that we've outed two town PRs D1 and is initially inclined to think one of the two to be scum.

Is there any way we can finagle some sort of plan to confirm both PRs?

What is your Senjai read?

I

think

I had a townread on him at some point but he's dropped out of the spotlight recently. Could be a scumtell (he was a focal point of early D1 and now he's suddenly quiet after suspicion dies down) or there could be other reasons for his recent lurking. I guess he's still town until I hear more from him.

Was this a “blend” joke ‘cause I really don’t see this as a legitimate response to what you were being accused of.

My original point was that, when people are all like HEY THIS GUY IS SCUM but no one votes him, it reeks of scumbuddies throwing suspicion around but not committing with actual votes, as to have a point to backtrack to to validate a bus. Typically when this type of situation occurs, I jump on those players.

Ok so if we let her live today when do we lynch her?

If we prove her town, we don't. Hell, if she dies tonight, we don't. If we find she slips up or gives false results, then we lynch her. Simple.

Nor do I like Adorks "well she's claimed, lets let someone else claim while leaving her to be lynched later."

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to lynch Piggy. I was saying "if we're lynching her anyway" because people still want her dead. To those people, I ask: what's the harm in letting her through the night?

I actually think adorkable's scum too.

Mmkay. May I ask why?

[adorkable]

EBWOP:

It's meta, but you kinda do have a point.

I meant WIFOM. Was thinking how the MS meta = claiming town RB as scum RB is bad when I was posting.

[adorkable]

oh look, empking and doomyoshi are scum together how adorable

I read through their posts and I don't see anything sticking out to support this. Bit of elaboration would be nice.

[adorkable]

Wagons of the day at their peak:
Senjai (6)- JacobSavage, Plan B, Toon Fighter, Senjai, adorkable, Nero Cain
JacobSavage (6)- Plan B, DoomYoshi, Toon Fighter, theamatuer, PiggyGal15, RedCoyote
PiggyGal15 (7)- Cletus+Brandine, Untrod Tripod, adorkable, 4nxi3ty, Demon Core, Senjai, DoomYoshi
Nero Cain (5)- Plan B, adorkable, PiggyGal15, Senjai, 4nxi3ty


Plan B has been on 3/4 of the main wagons for the day. However, he's also been first or second vote on them as well. Anxiety's been mid-wagon on both PR-claim wagons. Anyone have thoughts on these two?

vote: DoomYoshi

Placeholder, I'll look into him more in the morning.

[N]

Town RB and town Watcher make sense together balance-wise. My other head wants to note she thinks it's unlikely that we've outed two town PRs D1 and is initially inclined to think one of the two to be scum.

How? I've never modded or tried to balance a game, but I don't see how those two roles fit together so perfectly. (I'm not saying I disagree; I just want to know why they're more likely to go together than not.)