NY Mafia 155 - New Age Mafia II - Game Over!

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Yarr.

Michel is probably scum.

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Unvote, vote: Michel

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#207 is townish in context though. Oh well.

Tierce, you town?

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Rhinox, would you ever consider going for any kind of strategy of intentional no killing as SK?

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The one-shot vig + 19p with only a roleblocker that can prevent kills does bother me.

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I has Sim down as suspicious for, among other behaviors, wanting to lynch singer (who I thought was TOWN) over nham (who I was convinced was SCUM). Now that I know they were both scum, that "tell" no longer exists.

Do you not like internalize that sort of stuff, Glrok?

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Tempted to not think too hard and

Vote: RedFF

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You're a terrible busser, red.

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Glrok, concisely summarize for me why early mass claim is pro-town in abstract terms.

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Don't be mean, Glrok.

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So stop pretending that nhammen's and singer's reactions were somehow natural consequences of the mass claim, thanks.

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Singer's was just a case of her play style, which is why I was fooled, but it's still the reason she got investigated N1. Nham's was suspicious as hell, and iamausername completely busted him for it.

They were consequences of the mass claim, yes, just not predictable ones. The link between mass claim and catching them is uninteresting from a scumhunting perspective.

Are you really clearing redFF based off of some half-hearted bussing he did early D1?

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Unvote, vote: Knight of Cydonia

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No.

KoC, how many scum do you think there still are?

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Obviously. But 2 or 1?

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Cult of consistency is doubleplusboring.

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Wasn't there supposed to be neighbor stuff, Glrok?

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Make the case, Glrok.

Unvote, vote: Quagmire

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KoC as Mafia One-shot Gunsmith is perfectly feasible.

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So I have a gunsmith innocent on me, and you're claiming I can be some kind of gunsmith-godfather (a Mafia Doctor, in a Normal).

I'd totally let a Godfather be gunsmith-immune, for the record.

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KoC as Mafia One-shot Gunsmith is perfectly feasible.

why? we don't have evidence of a third party?

It catches cop and gunsmiths and AGar and provides a nice anti-gunsmith result fake claim? It doesn't need to catch SKs at all (and SKs don't even necessarily show up as having a gun).

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Since forever.

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I blame Glrok.

(Also, Tierce, 1255 was meant as a reference to my membership in the Normal Review Group; I don't think I'd go for it as a mod since it's a little clunky. This being a Normal game isn't really something I'd miss anyway.)

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Rhinox is doubleplustown.

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Pretty sure at most one out of any group of four is scum so that doesn't seem particularly meaningful.

Rhinox, it's mostly the claim although I'm also assuming that I would in fact see some signs pointing to it if you were scum.

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Unvote, vote: scooby

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Tierce you must get lynched now because either you are luckyass scumbag that should have been lynched years ago or a RETARDED TOWNIE that made the most IDIOTIC case ever .

She's going to live forever precisely because she made this case.

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Quagmire's claim is perfectly consistent with scum.

Vote: Quagmire

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No? I'd have very few compunctions about making that claim and I'm a superconservative fake claimer.

As far as I'm concerned, the gunsmith claims only imply that KoC is very very likely to really be a gunsmith.

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In addition, your order of lynchings is borked. You know I defend townreads to the bone, red--so this reeks of "let's lynch Tierce, when she flips Town let's move to Rhinox because she was Wrong". Logically, as Town, you would go for Rhinox first to see if there was any merit to that accusation, but nope, let's lynch the defender first because that makes perfect sense.

That presumes he'll actually get the people lynched he's pushing though.

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If you're super rusty, then surely it'd be far from a given that you'd bus a buddy, no?

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Town also commit scum tells, yes (wouldn't the game be so much easier if they did?). That is not an argument.

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What do you think of the argument put forth in Post 1194, Tierce?

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(If no one else feels like playing, give me my Quagmirelynch?)

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(It means you're scum.)

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No one's arguing anything like that.

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Mod

, VC and prods?

Deadline's in two days. Let's lynch Quagmire.

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Told you Rhinox was town.

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Vote: Knight of Cydonia

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CES, are you scum?

No.

It literally means nothing that town-Quag said what he said, KoC. He's not an Oracle of Delphi; he didn't know anything more about the set-up than what he did and he was always going to be biased in favour of the claimed gunsmiths.

You should be able to see this dumb posturing for what it is, Glrok. No way final scum is vanilla, so yeah, KoC might be a gunsmith, but that means nothing.

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CES, how fantastically lucky is it that KoC's predecessor fake-claimed 1-shot Gunsmith during the D1 mass claim before a now-deceased protown 1-shot gunsmith?

Why exactly do you think KoC is scum? What do you think motivated bv310 to claim 1-shot Gunsmith during the D1 massclaim?

Mafia Gunsmith. Really.

As for why he's scum, it's mostly PoE which isn't that weird considering we've basically everyone who was genuinely suspicious + Appeal to TownQuag

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I still don't see why the popcorn thing is in redff's favor. He was clearly bussing nham, and the popcorn is consistent with bussing. He picked nham (and me) because we were "the worst votes on the umoms wagon".

It's not really the popcorning to nhammen. It's starting the mass claim AND popcorning to a buddy on your own initiative.

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There is one scum left.

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And while we are at it, why is Izzy dead instead of Glork? If there are two scum alive, this is MyLo. That could explain why Izzy is dead--as few innocents alive in MyLo/LyLo as possible. But Glork is far more capable of scumhunting than Izzy, even though his play here is far from stellar. :/

Would a suboptimal nightkill really be out of place in this game?

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Balance. Scum power grows quadratically in the amount of members and you need a silly amount of power to countenance 5 scum in a 19p game.

My question is: should we No Lynch?

My answer is: we should lynch KoC.

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That is a very lame reason to trot out at this point of the game. Just sheep me, Tierce.

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Let's finish this.

Glrok, Tierce.

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Huzzah!

I strongly suspected you might be a Traitor, Rhinox. It explained the lack of power of our scum team (I was just a nightkill-immune gf, so that only hurt our side re: investigative roles) and also explained your weird weird claim.

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I was bulletproof by the bye, so I'm not sure how that endgame would've gone. You really drew the short straw in terms of which mafia got lynched and which ones survived.