Mini 380: Artifacts- Game over

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Random FOS : Nai

Random Vote : Coron

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Right... And FOS and a Vote on me. Fantastic.

Vote: Coron

for an obvious scum tactic of throwing suscpicion on people for an FOS and... Well, nothing.

You're just mad because I have already caught 2 scum.

Your leaving out the fact that it's you and your partner

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What I meant was all three mafia, my bad. In a mini it is usually fairly safe to assume 3 mafia, though there are some corner cases that have 2 sets of 2 or mountainous with just 2.

More like a slip of the scum- um I mean tongue...

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It was a joke to follow your and HackerHucks exchange.

Dont worry, Im sure it was more of a "theres usualy 3, so why not now" sort of thing, as opposed to a slip up.

I would like to ask though, are your posts about you already finding 3 scum have any backing to it, or are you just trying to make us seem bad to get a town player lynched? If it's the first could you please explain instead of being stupid. K, thnx bai.

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Perfect, could you mention which post(s) you missunderstood/read incorrectly and how?

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I know how you play Coron (I assasinated you in space-something mafia).
My vote and comments were more jabs/jokes then truth.
Sort of mimicing you :b

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Coron plays a similar style to Fritz's.


P.S. I FOS'd you :b.... Just for the record...

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"You're reactions"?
Mine included?

"I take offense to the playing like Fritzer comment"
ahwell the truth hurts...

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I know that one of my posts that got deleted was me telling Huck that my "blatant misuse of the apostrophe" was infact in a quote from Coron that I posted.

Other than that I'm not sure right now what I had posted.

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Oh yah, I

unvote

d : Coron
and

FOSed: Jules

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I didnt get the reaction I was expecting from Coron though so Im not completely against revoting him if need be.

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Randomvote: HackerHuck for nothing.

This is a response to the bump

Okay.. yeah.. um...

Unvote

if needed, and

Vote: Cornflux

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Just checking in to say that I am still happy with my vote.

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There was the crash and the forum down time remember.

But I too wouldn't mind things picking up a bit.

Im staying on conflux though until he posts more.

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In England until Monday.

I guess we'll be hearing from you the friday after then?

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It also looks more like Stewie is placing something in his rear-end, rather than pulling something out.

???

Lol, I know, out of that whole post he made that is what stuck out the most to me.

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Um I think it's a christmas light... Can we get off the topic of Stewie's ass now?

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Still on Conflux here, even without the crash I doubt hed have posted anything...

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Nai, I'm curious here, What would you say the one big reason your voting Coron is?

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Zin you think Im scum in everygame.

I would post more but
1- Coron and Nai have sort of taken over the thread with their debate. I dont find either overly scummy.
2- I have been very clear that I want to lynch Con, other than that Im not sure.

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Huck, My thoughts on Con came from the fact that when in a rare occurance he would actually post in this game, he would ignore everything that was going on and post something of absolutely no content.

Ie. "this is for the bump"

I got a lurking in plain sight feal from him.

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As time goes on I am starting to see this as more of a town vs town arguement that started over Coron's ussual ...um... agressive.. playstyle.

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(my opinion)

Basically the idea is this: I threw out a completely oddball theory, acted sure of myself and saw how people reacted. Nai reacted EXACTLY like RUH ROH THIS GUY KNOWS SOMETHING BETTER GET RID OF HIM.

Or it could be a pro town player who is a little annoyed at being labeled as scum for nothing at all by someone who seems so confident in what he is saying. And when someone apears confident enough to voice his opinions in that way, others may get convinced he is right.

Therefore the town player could be just interested in shuting you up or setting you streight so a mistake is not made by the rest of the town.

(This post is hypothetical of course, and comes from a distaste in the Coron/pooky/Fritz/Thesp playstile)

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I never said that we shouldnt accuse people, I just implied that we should have something to base our acusations on. You started accusing Nai and myself for that mater in your very first post. Which was infact only the fourth post of the game.

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Norinel -> I just quickly scanned the rules and couldnt find an answer so I'll ask to make sure.

If the mafia makes a night kill, would the town loose the items that the victem started the night with and then could have passed? Or would the town loose whatever item(s) was passed to him that night?

bassically what is the order of the night actions?

Use
pass
kill?

or
kill
use
pass?

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I was really voting Conflux, not CTD.
I was voting Conflux because he seemed to be willing to come by and say hi, but still contribute nothing. To me he seemed intent on trying to lurk his way through.
Now that CTD is here my vote can go. Assuming he posts more often.

unvote

But because of Conflux I have to say I feal a little guarded about whatever CTD's role is.

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So the cheer squad consists of me, Jules and Zindaras?

ShadowLurker - how do you know that Luna was just inactive and not lurking? The difference is intent and I cannot fathom how you would know Luna's intent.

Related Info, just for the record:

I just replaced Luna in another game that she had made 2 posts (I believe) in 11 pages, so her record would appear to indicate that she was more inactive than lurking.

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Interesting how Nai no longer has anything to say...

It's been two days, thats hardly enough time to imply that someone has gone quiet.

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suspicious

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Nightfall - for being a fence-sitter while being comfortable parking his vote on a player who was clearly inactive rather than lurking. Also for seriously suggesting that conflux (and myself by association) was suspicious, while other no-shows didn't seem to bother him.

The reason I stayed on Conflux was because he would visit ocasionally but when he did, he would not contribute anything. I dont think you could call him "clearly" inactive. And for the record when you joined I said that it wasnt you I had a problem with and I unvoted you.

I was really voting Conflux, not CTD.
I was voting Conflux because he seemed to be willing to come by and say hi, but still contribute nothing. To me he seemed intent on trying to lurk his way through.
Now that CTD is here my vote can go. Assuming he posts more often.

unvote

But because of Conflux I have to say I feal a little guarded about whatever CTD's role is.

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Hey guys, finished exams now, but christmas stuff has taken up time too.

I've read what I missed and am ready to post some more.

I DONT think that the person who has the mouth should claim.

I DO however want to bring up an idea.

Some/most/? of us started the night with an artifact. It is my understanding that we were then given a chance to use the artifact and then pass it on. How would people feal about a mass semi claim on the artifacts that we all had at the start. Ie. We would all claim the NAME and ONLY the name of the artifact we had at the start of the previous night, before we had passed it on. That way if anyone does have the mouth, we would at the very least know where it was. Also if any of us end up under the effects of some unknown artifact, we should be able to confirm where it came from. This will also help us to analyze any passing patterns. I played in a game called ROLESWAP mafia were the town did this and it helped considerably. In that game, I was scum and I lost my two partners because someone noticed a trend in our records. One final advantage I can see of this would be that it will let people know where artifacts have been, but wont inform the mafia of where they currently are, so they wont be able to target certain artifacts for nightkills.

Any opinions?

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Im not overly certain one way or the other regarding Jules right now. I will say that I am leaning more towards scum though. The main reasons for this being 1, how earlier on he seemed to push against Nai during his debate with Coron, which I wasn't wild about in the first place, but he also seemed pretty snippy about it at times. 2, He's claimed that although he doesnt know exactly what it was, he believes that there was something posted pre "wipe out" crash that would back up his thoughts more. While that is believable and reasonably possible, I get the impression that too much of his stance is based on that suspision.

The following quote has me worried to. Stewie mentioned that he couldnt find anything to suport this and neither can I.

When you look back, you will find that the Nai Coron debate did flow from my vote. Not solely my vote but that was one of the factors leading up to it. Before my vote, there was precious little. After my vote, Nai started saying stuff, as did others, which Coron latched on to

To me this seem like he's trying to make us believe that it was his random vote that got the whole thing started, and that his votes were leading the discusion while really he was following alot of it.

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Was this not an answer to that?

The question is not only whether he would get the artifact if he were scum, it was whether he would pass it on. It sort of WIFOMs but, there is a definate tangible advantage to scum from having this not circulate.

The article MUST be passed on if used.

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Sorry missed this page.

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I dont think he even picked up that it was a slip, and the ding was likely for coron saying jules was town.

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Sorry, New Year + New job + New Problems have really took a beating on me.

I will try hard to keep posting, but there will be / has been a decrease in the number I am able to make, and the time I am able to contribute.


One thing I have to comment on:

If you're a vanilla townie, the fact that you started with an artifact IS your role. I'm not sure how hard that is to comprehend.

I disagree.

I also disagree with GL's comment here. It just means that you are a vanilla townie who is an item carrier. It is not the players powers, it is the items.

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GL -> I was suspect of Jules, but the issue of the ear claim leads me to look at him in a more positive and town like light.

Beyond that, Coron was the only one that struck me as being pretty scummy, and he too has actually started to act more townlike imo in recent days. This could all be an attempt by a scum coron to link himself up with a town jules, but I dont have any real evidence of that yet.

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What kind of evidence would you be looking for?

FOS: Nightfall

Coron seems more townlike lately because he's just arguing and defending himself against GL, and that looks on-topic and meaty. I doubt it's any challenge.

But he's doing it rather well.

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MOD: Could we get a vote count please?

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I would post more but, we have been going around in circles and I only have so much time to play each day.

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Hacker and CTD could you two post where you stand right now?

P.S. Jules, OTHER THAN Nai, who do you think is scummy?

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Nightfall - His early insistance to vote Conflux instead of commenting on current events at the time struck me as scummy, but it could have also been lazyness. He has an air of scummyness troughout most of his posts, but I have a feeling that I'm just paranoid when it comes to him. There's a minor contradiction between his posts 227 (in which he says that he feels a little guarded against me because of my predecessor) and 278 (in which he claims that he doesn't have a problem with me). And while you're asking me where I stand, how about you answer that same question yourself? Because I can't really tell.

- I kept on Conflux early on because I thought he was just avoiding having to contribute anything. As for Coron and Nai's debate I contributed what I thought I could at that point, and that my beliefs were more inline with Nai's than with Coron's.

- Because Conflux never really answered me, it left a little bit of a sour taste in my mouth when it comes to his role. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, and you seem to be making good on it so far, but I'm still a little more on gaurd than ussual because of how conflux acted.

- As for where I stand, to be honest I'm really not sure. Since the start or Nai and Coron's arguement I was pretty sure that Coron and Jules were scum. Jule's claim however has made me rethink that, and made me willing to keep him around for now. The main reason I actually asked for your stance was because I myself am not completely sure of mine. I was kind of hoping I might be able to pick something up from what you post... Overall I think that I'd be the most satisfied with a Coron lynch.

@ Nai > One question, I've been debating whether or not to ask this, but do you have some type of restriction for today? Voting, post, or otherwise?

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Zind, I've just been looking over some posts and I wanted to ask something...

You state that you are 99% sure that Kelly/Perfect is scum and 80% sure that Shadow is scum.

If we were to lynch either of them with the terms that if they came up town we would lynch you tommorrow, would you be willing to do that?

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I realize that yes, I was more interested in seeing how much you were willing to stand behind your acusations if they placed you in danger too...

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Why is that?

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What about it is?

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....So your thought is that it will block roles but not artifacts?

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Jules, Could you please post once more, the "EXACT" phrasing that you used to ask the ears your question?

Nai, Does your item clearly say that it effects people outside? or globally? or what?

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I am not too sure whether I trust the not-transferring thing either. Especially if this is some kind of massive roleblock ability, which is pretty powerful.

Its a one time use item though.... Or at least he claims....
I COULD see it being true... I'm just now sure how likely it would be....

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I also don't see why you'd think a mass-role-block would be passable. If it was, either scum or town could put the other side into a complete standstill over and over, if the passes were done right.

Surely it could be passable without being multi-use.

I would guess it could be, but at the same time, just because it isn't doesn't make it scummy.

I see the item as a "Get one night of safety" item. From what I can tell so far, like I think HH pointed out, scum need to come to our tent(?) to kill us. This item is a one shot "Doc protects everyone" - like item.

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CTD, GL are you two still around?

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If he does have the artifact he says he does, I think it would be much more likely that he'd be town as opposed to scum.

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I vote for you to use it tonight. If it does stop night kills, then it would mean that our artifacts will last a day longer too. (Explanation: We wouldn't loose one of them to a night kill tonight.)

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Do we need to leave tents to "use" the items?

If not then really Nai's item (if it is true) gives us one more chance to use our items? That could be really helpfull if we were to use it tonight.

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HH Im going to ask this once, and I want you to make sure you answer it exactly how you think it should be.

Under what terms is your starting artifact returned to you?


After this I will likely have a question / request to follow.

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What word does it use to describe the holder's death? (ie. die)

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He's also said that the item would get passed on if the holder was "killed"...
I wanted to know if that was his choice of wording or the item's/mod's.

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Vote: Hacker Huck

If you die, someone else out there at least still has the imunity item (if you are telling the truth. This could be huge for us if we choose to pass this player items that we want to keep protected.

I want whoever it is that has this item to claim that they have it. If it really does give them immunity at night then they dont need to fear the mafia. If we lynch huck and he comes up town, then he must be telling the truth and you will have no reason to fear being lynched by the rest of us.

P.S. Nate if you dont use your ability tonight, then I am voting you tommorrow. We need proof that you are town / that you at least are being truthful when it comes to your artifact, and we could greatly benefit from another night with our items.

Zind> Lurking as usual? excuse me? I post and comment whenever I can and there is something to be said.

My guess at the scum trio(?) right now, HH/Zind/Coron

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Asking the immunity artifact owner to use their item? Did I say that? Are you know claiming that the item isnt a passive artifact that blocks attacks on its owner?

I take kill to mean loosing a player through something during the nightphase, or by the hand of a day vig. While I consider the word death to be used to describe a player who died through a lynch. If the item was to be returned to you if a player was "killed" overnight, it would be hard to stomach the thought of the item also granting night immunity to the player. If the owner is immune to night kills why would there be a mention of where the item would go if the owner was killed.

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I never said that. I said that whoever has it should claim.

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Okay then, I still think our best play is to lynch HH. We dont loose his artifact, if he's town we know that one is out there giving someone night immunity, and as long as we dont lynch whoever is carrying it, it should stay around.

HH, from what you got from the items description, could the person that you passed your item to pass it on still in coming nights?

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I have something to say, but first I need three questions answered.

The person that had the ear - What did you ask it?

Shadow - Why did you ask about MM (Stewies Replacement?) when Jules already did that night 1?

Everyone - Does anyone else have an artifact with the words "of the Diviner" in it's name?

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I did not do anything with the ear last night.

Why?

I asked about MM because I forgot Jules had asked about it, MM was the 2nd scummiest in my opinion although pretty distant from Zindaras so I wanted to see if my read on him was accurate, and Jules had also received no answer if you remember.

1) So you forgot that Jules asked the ear about MM, but you remembered that he got no answer?

2) What did you take the fact that Jules didnt (theoretically) recieve an answer to mean?

Everyone - Does anyone else have an artifact with the words "of the Diviner" in it's name?

I'm not sure this is a good question.

I'll rephrase, how many people here STARTED the game with an artifact with the words "of the diviner" in the name? Depending on the answer I get from this, I'm thinking I could in good confidence point out at least one scum.

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Red is mine.

Why?

I don't see how I can elaborate further.

What? how can you not? All you said so far is that you did not use it.

1) So you forgot that Jules asked the ear about MM, but you remembered that he got no answer?

2) What did you take the fact that Jules didnt (theoretically) recieve an answer to mean?

1) Last night, I forgot Jules used the ear on MM, I knew I wasn't using the Ear tonight as soon as I replaced in. When you brought it up this morning, I remembered that he received no result and am pointing out that it was unreliable anyway.

He claimed to not have recieved results directly, he also said that the results could be posted in the night scene or given to someone else.

2) I take the fact that he didn't receive an answer to mean that he didn't receive an answer from the mod.

, yes but if he really didn't why do you think that is?

I'll rephrase, how many people here STARTED the game with an artifact with the words "of the diviner" in the name? Depending on the answer I get from this, I'm thinking I could in good confidence point out at least one scum.

I don't like this quesiton either. Both claimed Diviner artifacts so far have been coppish roles and it feels like outguessing the mod at best.

What? I am just asking to see how many are suposedly in existence.
I also want to see if there is any further proof that your current artifact exists.

P.S. I have my reasons, which I will reveal soon, for asking all of this.

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EBWOP

Red is mine.

Why?

I don't see how I can elaborate further.

What? how can you not? All you said so far is that you did not use it.

1) So you forgot that Jules asked the ear about MM, but you remembered that he got no answer?

2) What did you take the fact that Jules didnt (theoretically) recieve an answer to mean?

1) Last night, I forgot Jules used the ear on MM, I knew I wasn't using the Ear tonight as soon as I replaced in. When you brought it up this morning, I remembered that he received no result and am pointing out that it was unreliable anyway.

He claimed to not have recieved results directly, he also said that the results could be posted in the night scene or given to someone else.

2) I take the fact that he didn't receive an answer to mean that he didn't receive an answer from the mod.

, yes but if he really didn't why do you think that is?

I'll rephrase, how many people here STARTED the game with an artifact with the words "of the diviner" in the name? Depending on the answer I get from this, I'm thinking I could in good confidence point out at least one scum.

I don't like this quesiton either. Both claimed Diviner artifacts so far have been coppish roles and it feels like outguessing the mod at best.

What? I am just asking to see how many are suposedly in existence.
I also want to see if there is any further proof that your current artifact exists.

P.S. I have my reasons, which I will reveal soon, for asking all of this.

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Still wating for a response from Nightfall.

I'm waiting for an answer from SL and any remaining people to speak up about wether they started the game with a "diviner" item or not.

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Is this

2) The artifact has NO indication of that whatsoever, I don't recall him claiming that either. I don't buy it.

In response to this?

He claimed to not have recieved results directly, he also said that the results could be posted in the night scene or given to someone else.

Once I get this answered I will double check if everyone has said whether or not they started with an item "of the diviner". If everyone has answered, I'll reveal my reasons for asking, and why I am nearly certain that I've got the identities of 1 scum and 1 town member.

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As soon as Shadow answers my last question, I will recheck that everyone answered my "starting artifact" question. If both of those are done, I will share what I know.

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I will post tommorrow.

Apeiron, and MM if you read this could you please answer my question -> "If you had an artifact at the start of the game, did it have the text "of the diviner" in its title?

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klajwoefjkl

Who are we still waiting on. Nightfall is going to hand us a scum here, let's get excited about this.

SL got an innocent on MM but MM is his #2 suspect still. MM notices this but categorizes SL as town. Weird.

unvote, vote: Shadowlurker

Hey I was gonna touch on that

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Apeiron, and MM are the only living players who have yet to answer my "starting item" question, but I figure it will be best to go on before people get annoyed and strt dropping out like flies....

Okay, so here goes....
As I'm sure almost all of you remember, Nai and Coron had a huge arguement earlier in this game. This arguement all began because of one post. My very first post.

Random FOS : Nai

Random Vote : Coron

Coron thought I was FOS'ing Nai (my so called scum buddy) to distance myself from him for later in the game. This however was not the case.

I started this game with an artifact. My artifact was an ancient deck of cards.
I was told that I did not have any control over them though, and that they would do what they'd like.

So, pre game night 1 these cards decided to shuffle, and reveal a card to me.
I was told that the card shown was an old expression for the term "no".
Not knowing what exactly I was being told, I looked at the players list.
That was when I say nai. nai = no? Not sure as to what it ment I decided to FOS
Nai in order to leave a little breadcrum for later. This is also the reason that I asked Nai a few times if he had any type of post restiction, or any type of forced action. He voted Coron pretty quickly after he attacked me so I thought that my item might have made him have to vote those who voted me? Anyways, the game went on and Jules claimed the "ear of the diviner". I didnt make much of it at the time but I believed his claim. By this point I had become of the mindset that my item had something to do with Nai, but I suddenly recalled something from my pm. Was there more to my item? I checked my PM and I had infact over looked something. The deck of cards was being held together by something. That something was "The Hands of the Diviner".

So this leads me to believe a few things,
1) I would think the ear would most likely start with a town member, which would make Jules'/jules' role likely protown.

2) If Jules is town then MM/Stewie is not mafia, and therefore also town.

3) Shadow claims to have an item with part of the title being "of the diviner", yet no one has yet to claim having a record of this item.

4) I believe Shadow as scum would create the idea that this item existed for three reasons. A> To make it appear that he has a way of finding scum while only revealing MM's alignment (someone who quite possibly is already cleared by the use of another item) B> Drawing possible doc protection away from people who really need it. C> Claiming to have used a diferent item, gives him an excuse for not using the ear.

5) If we were to believe that Shadow's claimed artifact is real, that would mean that we would likely have a total of 3 items "of the diviner". 2 of these items are directly linked to each other. And together these two act like a super cop item. To have a 3rd "of the diviner" item, and another cop one at that, seems a little repetitive and out of place.

6) Shadow claimed to have investigated MM last night because he "forgot" that Jules asked the ears about him night one. I find this rather unlikely, Possible but unlikely. Not meaning to suckup but, I dont think it would be something that Shadow would overlook.

7)If Shadow did investigate MM like he stated last night, why would he so soon after list MM as his 2nd top suspect? It makes no sense. I really cant see Shadow "forgeting" his own investigation result, and doing so so soon after he made it.

8) After being confronted with the info in point 7 above, Shadow responds with:

Oh and I obviously think MM is pretty much protown although he would've been my 2nd scummiest canindate today ignoring the investigation.

Pretty much protown? What kind of investigation result did you get? MM = Somewhat innocent? And if you did get an innocent result on him, why would we care to hear that he would have been the "2nd scummiest canindate of the day" if we were to ignore your investigation? So you found out he was town, but you still want to point fingers at him?

Vote: Shadow

I need some answers... I think we all deserve em.
(P.S. I was one of the people that was voiceing his opinion that Nai should have used his item last night. This was because, scum knew where the ear was since after Jules claimed Shadow confirmed he recieved it; also I thought it would at least give us one more night for one more question for the ears.)

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Crap. To be honest I thought the pm was about the ear.

That being said though, if it is a nonexistent item I dont think it would be any less likely that the mod would show the pm to everyone.

it is enough for me to

unvote

for now though, and just

FOS: Shadow

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Nightfall: Yes. It did have that in the text.

If you had the eye please confirm. If so, did you get the results from the item for the previous night?

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whoah, brain freeze there... of course you didnt have the eye, nevermind...

Shadow, did the eye get passed to you? or did you have it from before?

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luna did not do anything the 1st night.

Any idea why?

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I do not believe it was a joke. I think that you didn't intend for it to be a joke.

honestly?

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I could vote Zind,
I dont think I'll vote Apeiron though.

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Vote: Zind

I think Apeiron is more likely town, with jules starting with the item he did.
My vote is just to break a tie at deadline.

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unvote

for now.

Zind is your starting artifact one time use?
Could the message be sent day or night?

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I really dont know about the artifact claim. If it's true it can be proven, but at the same time if it is not a real artifact it can be pretty easily faked. You could just talk to a scum buddy like normal and claim your using the item...

The artifact itself also doesn't stand out that much to me as a really helpfull one to have.

Can I ask why, if it is multiuse, you haven't used it at all yet?

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You've misinterpreted my claim. I said it was not one-time use only, so not

one-use per game

. It is, of course, one-use per player, which is obviously why I didn't use it.

I intend to pass it to ShadowLurker tonight, obviously.

If you intend to pass it on tonight, would it not have been in some way beneficial to send someone a message in a previous night?

P.S. Do you know if the recipient of the message is told who sent it to them?

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Mod:

Can we please get a deadline extension since discussion has picked up?

Discussion did pick up, but I think it's more due to there still being an imminent threat of deadline than anything else. So I'll extend the deadline to Tuesday (Same time as this post), and we'll go from there.

To be honest it's more because of Zind's artifact claim for me. Mind you, the deadline is what brought that about... 8)

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P.S. Do you know if the recipient of the message is told who sent it to them?

Yes. They don't. I'd say that's pretty obvious.

Why would that be pretty obvious?
If someone got a message about someone being town or scum, how would they know that it came from a trustable source?

[Nightfall]

I'm okay with Zind lasting another night, but I'd like him to pass an item on.

[Nightfall]

Good luck town!
Go town go