Space Monkey Mafia: GAME OVER!

[ibaesha]

As much as I enjoy randomly bandwagonning MBL, I'm not sure what the point of running him up to lynch -1 this quickly on no basis is.

I really don't get the last two votes so most of all, considering they had to unvote to vote MBL, which means they aren't random voting and therefore their votes are more serious. I'd like bird to explain why he thinks MBL should be at lynch -1 and what sort of defense he expects from MBL. Or is the point to make him claim? Because if it is, it's rather ridiculous and I'd be surprised if MBL would oblige.

unvote; vote bird

And ... Glork, seriously?

[Glork]

And ... Glork, seriously?

Why not? He's prolly scum.

[Fritzler]

As much as I enjoy randomly bandwagonning MBL, I'm not sure what the point of running him up to lynch -1 this quickly on no basis is.

ibby we've hung out for a long time, you really should know the reason for these shennanigins now

[MrBuddyLee]

Yeah, there won't be a claim from me any time soon. So I'll start searching for scum cause that's my primary role.

I'd say that putting me at -1 is nearly as scummy as demanding a hammer on this particular wagon. Whether it's joking or not, Glork knows that there's more than likely some bloodthirsty tard, town or scum, willing to do the funny thing to get attention. And in this case, off someone who's actually somewhat decent at finding scum.

vote: Glork, strong FOS: bird, FOS: CES

[Glork]

OMGIS!!!


Yeah, dude's totally scum.

[inHimshallibe]

vote: MBL

Harumph.

[MrBuddyLee]

Glork, your blatant misrepresentation is noted. I didn't vote you for your vote, I voted you for your actions after the vote. Thus, it's not an OMGUS vote and you're being intentionally evasive, trying to make light in the face of your scumminess.

What do you actually think of my vote on you? What do you think of this wagon? I'd like you on the record for tomorrow in the off chance that some mouthbreather lynches me now.

[Save The Dragons]

Vote: Glork

[Glork]

Glork, your blatant misrepresentation is noted. I didn't vote you for your vote, I voted you for your actions after the vote. Thus, it's not an OMGUS vote and you're being intentionally evasive, trying to make light in the face of your scumminess.

Um... I fully embrace my "scumminess." I am starting off a game by behaving in a completely ridiculous, counterintuitive, non-productive manner. Welcome to Glork's mafia play. Would you like me to go cite the eight thousand million examples in which I've done so and been accused of being a scumbag for it?

Also, your vote is in fact OMGUSy in nature... it's a reaction to the fact that I asked someone to kill you. "You say you want me dead so I'm going to vote for you" is OMGUS any way you look at it. It doesn't matter if you're talking about the vote itself or the request for a hammer.

What do you actually think of my vote on you? What do you think of this wagon? I'd like you on the record for tomorrow in the off chance that some mouthbreather lynches me now.

I understand why you're voting for me, and I really can't argue with it.
I think the wagon is pretty hilarious. But it's useful, too. It's not often that we get to start off a game by almost-lynching someone. You've stuck your votes/FoSes in the appropriate places. (Glork 3rd, plus asking for hammer; Bird putting you at Lynch -1; CES for Lynch -2) So far, things check out okay. I'm actually more interested in other peoples' reactions than yours.

Make no mistake about it, though. Had you been at Lynch -1 without me on the wagon, I would have hammered. I've never done something *that* ridiculous before. I think it'd be kinda fun to do it to someone. I think it'd be absolutely fucking hilarious. And I will do it before I retire from Mafia games altogether.

[MrBuddyLee]

Well, at least we're being honest here.

[Glork]

Thing is... I want you to know that I'm dead serious about everything I just said. You know me, MBL, and you know that I like to push the envelope sometimes. I want to get away with as much as possible, so long as it doesn't get me killed. And if I get killed over my behavior here, I'll know a little bit more about my limits for future reference. *shrug*

[Glork]

Also, I guess I should

Unvote

, given MBL's responses. I'll

Vote: Bogre

for not jumping on the MBL wagon when clearly it was the cool thing to do.

[Save The Dragons]

Unvote, Vote: Bird

[klebian]

Glork, your blatant misrepresentation is noted. I didn't vote you for your vote, I voted you for your actions after the vote. Thus, it's not an OMGUS vote and you're being intentionally evasive, trying to make light in the face of your scumminess.

Um... I fully embrace my "scumminess." I am starting off a game by behaving in a completely ridiculous, counterintuitive, non-productive manner. Welcome to Glork's mafia play. Would you like me to go cite the eight thousand million examples in which I've done so and been accused of being a scumbag for it?

Also, your vote is in fact OMGUSy in nature... it's a reaction to the fact that I asked someone to kill you. "You say you want me dead so I'm going to vote for you" is OMGUS any way you look at it. It doesn't matter if you're talking about the vote itself or the request for a hammer.

What do you actually think of my vote on you? What do you think of this wagon? I'd like you on the record for tomorrow in the off chance that some mouthbreather lynches me now.

I understand why you're voting for me, and I really can't argue with it.
I think the wagon is pretty hilarious. But it's useful, too. It's not often that we get to start off a game by almost-lynching someone. You've stuck your votes/FoSes in the appropriate places. (Glork 3rd, plus asking for hammer; Bird putting you at Lynch -1; CES for Lynch -2) So far, things check out okay. I'm actually more interested in other peoples' reactions than yours.

Make no mistake about it, though. Had you been at Lynch -1 without me on the wagon, I would have hammered. I've never done something *that* ridiculous before. I think it'd be kinda fun to do it to someone. I think it'd be absolutely fucking hilarious. And I will do it before I retire from Mafia games altogether.

The whole post = QFT

[MrBuddyLee]

That's an odd post to QFT, I smell a suckup.

[Mr Stoofer]

Vote Count

MrBuddyLee: 7 (Twito, Fritzler, klebian, Nightson, CES, bird1111, inHimshallibe)
bird1111: 2 (ibeasha, STD)
Phoebus: 1 (Bogre)
Glork: 1 (MrBuddyLee)
Bogre: 1 (Glork)

It will take 9 of you to throw someone out of the airlock

[MrBuddyLee]

Also, your vote is in fact OMGUSy in nature... it's a reaction to the fact that I asked someone to kill you. "You say you want me dead so I'm going to vote for you" is OMGUS any way you look at it.

I'll also note that at the time of my vote on you, eleven people had posted. Eight had voted me, two had not, and one was the mod.

The two who didn't vote for me voted for Phoebus for joke/random reasons, and I wasn't about to vote the mod, so every other nonrandom vote choice available to me would have resulted in an OMGUS vote in the way you define it.

Therefore, your painting of my vote on you as OMGUS is:

1) meaningless
2) inflammatory
3) deceptive and/or careless

You've made it clear that hammering in that situation is something you condone, yet you are watching other players for that behavior. You encouraged it knowing it was entirely likely to happen, knowing full well the result would be bad for town. And you claimed to be watching for responses, yet given the multitude of wagon-hoppers you chose to joke vote one of the few people not to hop the wagon.

It's fine if your advertised day one/two style is manic--that is, if town doesn't mind you hiding your anti-town play amidst a forest of meaningless trees.

confirm vote: Glork, FOS: inHim

[Glork]

Three points here:

First, you're assuming that I find OMGUS to be a bad thing. I've said before, and I'll say it again: Some types of OMGUS are good things, and the sign of a pro-town player. Ibby, for example, tends to get

very

OMGUSy when she's pro-town and someone accuses her of being scum or clamors for her death. I'm still not entirely sure what my meta-stance on you is, but I do know that you have a tendency to be very concerned -- obsessive, even -- about what people think of you. Newbie 254 was a big reminder of that, and my failure to realize it at that time ended up making me think you were scum in that game. I've since then learned from that and take into consideration your playstyle when dealing with you.

Second, the reason I labeled it as OMGUS was not because you picked *someone* who voted for you, but because you picked me. I boarded the MBL wagon the first time around, I jumped on it this time, and I asked for a hammer. I also called you scum when Ibby asked if I was serious. I was by far the most vocal person who was on your wagon. I realize that voting for anyone on your wagon would technically have been OMGUS, and (as explained above) I didn't intend for the "OMGUS" label to be construed as genuinely scummy. But I did want to note that you were choosing me in particular (hence the OMGIS instead of OMGUS).

Third: Yes, I advocated your hammer and wanted to see reactions at the same time. I wanted to see what other people thought of your wagon. Who would be bold enough to continue to vote for you (I actually think inHim is likely to be pro-town, given his post/vote). Who would get panicky and jump off, going "OMG, I was joking!! I don't want him dead (yet)!"... who would go "Holy crap, this wagon is scummy as hell"? Who would counterwagon somebody (StD, for example, was almost guilty of this, but his vote-chance seems. The reason I think I could've had my cake and eaten it too is because I wanted to different things on completely different levels. My immature, goofy, fun-loving, ridiculous side wanted to see you dead. What can I say... I've got a little bit of Fritzler in me. The scumbusting side of me wanted to see what people did in an unexpected situation.





One more thing.... please, MBL, explain to me how you can "smell a suckup" out of Klebian and think that I'm scum at the same time.

[Twomz]

The crash removed this thread from my watched list XD. But i'm aware of it now. Why are we trying to kill MBL w/o giving him the chance to do anything?

[Glork]

The crash removed this thread from my watched list XD. But i'm aware of it now. Why are we trying to kill MBL w/o giving him the chance to do anything?

Because it's funnier that way.

[dahen]

Ah, yes, this was the game with the crazy start.
Anyhow, I was voting Nightson in this game (sorry about me confusing games after the crash).

vote Nightson

[Sarcastro]

Random Vote: MrBuddyLee
Unvote: MrBuddyLee
Vote: klebian

Why did you feel the need to quote Glork's entire post, exactly?

[bird1111]

Unvote

[Twito]

Hehe without Glorks unvote MBL would be dead now :D
Yes and let me correct this one mistake I made before

Unvote

Hug: MBL

[Save The Dragons]

You meant to hug him, not vote him?

Yo, bird, why you leavin' the wagon? Pressure?