Meadow of Sorrow Mafia - Game Over! Town Wins

[TheEyeOfMordor]

Unvote and Vote: CPE

Bandwagons own...

[Zindaras]

Why the hell should I FOS some one before I vote them? Why can't I change my mind? Why can't I focus on one thing at time? Why can't I reread the thread to find new leads?

It's quite a major flip-flop.

I've started a bandwagon on CPE. I'd hate to WIFOM but I don't see why I'd do that if I were his partner. Not to say I couldn't be killing a sacrificial lamb, but if your case against me is connection to CPE,

I can see a sacrificial lamb strategy, yes.

1) what's scummy about CPE? all you've posted is connection between us.

What I don't like is the distancing in his first post and his continued inactivity, broken only to change his vote...usually to the guy you're voting.

2) why not vote him? any distancing plan will backfire if he gets lynched, and if he's scum, then we can celebrate. Even if it's purely sacrificial, you could keep your suspicion on me if you choose to and it's a dead scum anyway.

I'm deciding on which one of you I find scummier. I find your attack on cpe scummy, but I don't like his inactivity and non-response to your allegations either.

[HurriKaty]

Hey, I'm still here. I just realized that the site went back up DAYS ago and I'm catching up.

Thanks for telling me, guys.

[al_kohaulec]

The

UN

Official “Bad Moon Arisin’…” Vote Count!

creampuffeater – 5 – Mert, Save the Dragons, Thestatusquo, Olio, TheEyeofMordor

TheStatusQuo – 2 – Wuffles_II, spectrumvoid
Illumina – 2 – Toaster Strudel, Fritzler

Marli – 1 – Bogre
Mert – 1 – Zindaras
Toaster Strudel – 1 – HurriKaty
TheEyeofMordor – 1 – creampuffeater

With

17

alive, it takes

9

to take somebody down with the voice of rage and ruin.

The people who don’t go around tonight – 4 – Armlx, Illumina, Marli, RangeroftheNorth

[spectrumvoid]

Zindaras: It's not right cpe is being accused of inactivity. A lot of people haven't caught up yet after the crashes.

[Zindaras]

Let me reword: I don't like how his posts are not very much filled with content, yet he switches votes a lot.

[Thestatusquo]

Spectrum, he was inactive before the crashes. Plus, I KNOW he knows the site is up because we're in scum chat together nightly.

Also: Zinderas, I don't see what's the problem if they're both scummy. Just vote one, and IGMEOY the other. Win-win. It's good when scum bussing each other doesn't get them into the clear.

[Zindaras]

I'm a bit hesitant to vote either with the mass amount of people that still have to contribute anything at all.

[Toaster Strudel]

I am here, I have a lot of catching up to do.

[Save The Dragons]

It's quite a major flip-flop.

From having no opinion on someone to having an opinion on someone? Just call me John Kerry.

I can see a sacrificial lamb strategy, yes.

Ok.

What I don't like is the distancing in his first post and his continued inactivity, broken only to change his vote...usually to the guy you're voting.

I'm deciding on which one of you I find scummier. I find your attack on cpe scummy, but I don't like his inactivity and non-response to your allegations either.

You have commited a logical fallacy.

Your whole case (or most of it) appears to defend on us both being scum. If you assume we're scum, our behavoir looks like distancing. You have no case if either of us turn up protown. So the fact you are voting for neither of us while spewing this does not sit well with me. Even with no people posting, I defy you to vote one of us if your case is strong enough.

[Zindaras]

I

can

see a sacrificial lamb strategy, which means that I'll look at the other if either of you is scum. I

can

see distancing in the posts.

My case regarding you is based on the fact that you pretty much attacked cpe out of the blue.

My case regarding cpe is based on what I have already posted.

[Thestatusquo]

StD: I fail to see the logical falacy? Which one is it?

[Wuffles_II]

*Slinks in*

*Sees that scum is FINALLY, FRIGGING FINALLYYYY back up*

*Notes Armlx needs replacing, seriously*

*Will reread after sleep and give opinions/yo mama jokes*

*makes to scurry off, but falls asleep halfway throug...

[Thestatusquo]

*anxiously awaits the yo mama jokes*

[Fritzler]

TSQ, if one person was going to die tonight, who should it be?

[Mert]

StD: I fail to see the logical falacy? Which one is it?

I don't know if he's specifically citing one listed on the Wiki or whatever, but I do see his point about the case...

If

x

+

y

=

z

and you know that

z

= 10 then his case is basically saying "I know

x

and

y

are both equal to 5"... he has one part of the information and is making assumptions in order to get to that result he needs rather than knowing

x

and

y

and therefore calculating

z

.

I'm not sure that gets my point across properly but I'm tired and I'm basically agreeing with StD that the logic is faulty...

[Save The Dragons]

I lost my lead and I was looking for a new one, Zindaras. I reread the thread and thought CPE's actions were scummy. Of course I attacked him out of the blue. A lot of attacks are out of the blue. No one FOS everyone before they vote them Your case is crap.

And the fallacy is that the suspicion seems mostly based on the fact we are scum, and calling us scummy for that.

Let's say TSQ gets run up in a bandwagon and I defend him. If someone attacks me for being TSQ's scumpartner without knowing TSQ's alignment, accusations against me are crap.

[Thestatusquo]

Fritz...Please explain to me how I can respond to that without seeming scummy or like I'm fishing?

[Zindaras]

The fact that you reread the thread was not obvious from your post (in fact, it's not there). Though I will agree that you can attack someone out of the blue after a reread, I don't think that's possible without a large influx of new information. You cannot suddenly go from neutral to scummy over the course of a few posts, unless there are some major scumtells in those posts (which there weren't).

I will vote cpe or STD after the inactives pick up posting, depending on cpe's defense of himself. (and his current situation of non-defense I find scummy)

[Fritzler]

Fritz...Please explain to me how I can respond to that without seeming scummy or like I'm fishing?

tell me who you would kill if you could kill peopleat night

[Thestatusquo]

Depends, Fritz. Am I a pro-town killer, or an anti town killer?

[Wuffles_II]

Or perhaps, a neutral killer that hates everyone?

rawr.

[Thestatusquo]

That was not a yo mama joke:

FOS: WUFFLES

LAL?


Seriously, wheres the re=read info you promised us?

[al_kohaulec]

While I'm trying to get files from PK, this'll help me both with confirming who's still in and getting together as much info as I can.

Will everybody in this game please PM me their exact role PM and any night 1 targets/results etc.? Even the dead people if you can.

I will use these PMs as confirmation for who's still here and playing and who needs to be replaced.

[Save The Dragons]

You cannot suddenly go from neutral to scummy over the course of a few posts, unless there are some major scumtells in those posts (which there weren't).

Wrong. First of all, that's partially opinion. Second of all, why the the hell can't you go back and realize that someone's been doing something scummy that you didn't notice the first time? I was very focused on Shea and a little on Eye of Mordor, and then I looked back and saw CPE doing some crazy shit. So I posted that.

I'm too lazy to quote the posts where CPE said, "there needs more posting" and "I'm not paying attention to the thread"

If I'm too lazy to read the thread, am I just bullshiting what posts I "quoted?" They are there.

Your case on me is ridiculous.

HOW IS SOMEONE VOTING SOMEONE ELSE SCUMMY?

"Because they're scum together."

I applaud your superior logic. Either die scumbag or use your head, townbag.