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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:29 pm

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All three people? :roll:

And Thesp and I have already given some indication of why we're suspicious of Hurrikaty, so I guess you want STD to post.

Frankly Illumina, I don't see your posts as useful either; there's a bunch of "I'm busy, I'm busy" and a couple of "I'm suspicious of a couple wagons that currently have less than three people on them, obviously that group of two or three people is filled with scum".

It is worthwhile to try to analyze bandwagons and to see which ones are filled with scum, but this fails if you start calling any collection of two or three votes a scum wagon.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:30 pm

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er replace "less than three people" with "at most three people" above
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:19 pm

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Katy. I pride myself in being able to read you like a book as scum. You're scum.

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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:45 pm

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Shea, if I'm remembering correctly, this is the first game you've ever even played with me on the forum.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:49 pm

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katy, tsq is shea

good call

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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:59 pm

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Thok: That's quite a misrepresentation of my post. I don't see questioning a wagon or asking for clarification as unhelpful, nor did I ever say that any wagon definitely had scum in it.

I get suspicious of those who vote without posting their reasoning -- I think this is fair. In the case of HurriKaty and Zindaras, I saw a handful of people voting them without a lot of explanation for reasons that weren't transparent to me. What you misinterpret is that in both instances, I deliberately outlined the possbility of scum while leaving open the possibility of something going over my head. Thus, my asking people to provide clarification has a two-fold purpose: to make sure their reasoning is sound, and learn something I may have missed. Is this not helpful or reasonable?

Note that I'm not necessarily against a HurriKaty vote -- I've yet to hear compelling evidence for it.

As for specifics, I've gone through the thread twice now. The only objections Thesp had with HurriKaty were in Post 199, specifically: being suspicious about HurriKaty's objection to answering Fritzler's question, and wondering why HurriKaty bothered to explain his/her unvote (something I don't understand the logic in faulting...). There is no further analysis whatsoever between that post and when Thesp votes HurriKaty in 250.

Your first post is in 257, where you FOS Hurrikaty without reasoning. You then vote HurriKaty in 266, again without reasoning. STD votes without reasoning in the post after yours. You also took issue with Hurrikaty's response to being voted, which I agree with. But this was after you had already voted, and it wasn't clear to me why you decided to vote in the first place.

So, again, all I'm asking for is concrete reasoning of why HurriKaty is a good lynch. While I'm not necessarily in defense of HurriKaty in any way, I'd like some explanation as to why she/he's so obviously scum. Considering no one has provided much, I think this is reasonable thing to ask for.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:32 pm

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Fritzler wrote:katy, tsq is shea

good call

unvote, vote: katy
Yeah, he is Shea. Shea who, yes, I've played with in Scumchat several times. However, cumchat and Scumforums are ENTIRELY different settings, and Shea has no clue how I play on the forum, save for the slight chance he might have been stalking me about.

Also you know what I found hilarious? You guys went from trying to lynch one cop right to trying to lynch another.

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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:43 pm

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really?

i think thats funny too

and they're not that differfent
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:57 pm

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*laughs*

Hey Fritz, who should we be voting?
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:33 pm

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Don't like HurriKaty bandwagon at all at the moment.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:34 pm

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[quote="Zindaras"]*laughs*

Hey Fritz, who should we be voting?[/quote]duh

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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:46 pm

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Fritzler wrote:
Zindaras wrote:*laughs*

Hey Fritz, who should we be voting?
duh

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Even though she's a claimed cop? Seems odd to me.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:07 am

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oh

what the woman just said makes more sense now

hold on, let me think
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:20 am

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Well, that's how I understood it. I may be completely misunderstanding what she's saying, but that's the only way it makes sense.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:12 am

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Zindaras wrote:Well, that's how I understood it. I may be completely misunderstanding what she's saying, but that's the only way it makes sense.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:45 am

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We're doing poorly keeping our cops hidden from the mafia.

At this point, I'd like to vote for Fritzler or TSQ, if only as punishment.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:26 am

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HurriKaty wrote:
Fritzler wrote:katy, tsq is shea

good call

unvote, vote: katy
Yeah, he is Shea. Shea who, yes, I've played with in Scumchat several times. However, cumchat and Scumforums are ENTIRELY different settings, and Shea has no clue how I play on the forum, save for the slight chance he might have been stalking me about.

Also you know what I found hilarious? You guys went from trying to lynch one cop right to trying to lynch another.

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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:15 am

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Why is that a "crap half-claim?" Though I suppose, once one is outed as cop, all the damage is done. Do we need to lynch a claimed cop, even if the details of the claim turn out to ring false? This early in the game, if the cop isn't nightkilled after a few nights, we will know if the claim was true soon enough. No?
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:22 am

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Unvote, Vote: TSQ


He's closest to lynch, other than Katy, and this:
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Zindaras wrote:Well, that's how I understood it. I may be completely misunderstanding what she's saying, but that's the only way it makes sense.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:11 am

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Why are we voting for me? I have read 3+ games with Katy in them (in fact, I've probably read an even amount of just about all of yours. I'm really into meta gaming. Heh) I've played with her as scum in scum chat, and seen her play it probably a half dozen times.

Yes, Katy, while they may be different forums, the constant of playing scum is the same, and so do the problems that come with it. I assume that your answers to those problems would be the same, and hence you would play similarly in both formats. QED.

I can read you like a book. You're scum. Kthx. Half ass cop claim cinches it for me. I HIGHLY doubt we hit two cops in a row.

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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:16 am

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i am wary of the cop claim as well.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:17 am

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Assuming 2 scumgroups and probably an SK, too, Katy has sealed her fate if she's scum.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:29 am

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Unvote


that's right there's two scum groups.

While we've probably fucked ourselves, I wouldn't be surprised if Katy's telling the truth. Assuming they investigate different groups, this can be to our advantage.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:53 am

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What have I done to be the play at deadline?
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:07 pm

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HurriKaty needs to fully claim, and I don't want to hear suggestions or thoughts on what she might be from anyone. No helping her make up a claim.
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