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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:34 am

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I honestly dont see a compelling argument for TSQ either. It seems to me like we're grasping around for a deadline lynch, at this point, so we dont have to no lynch. I dont like the concept of a no lynch at this point either, but we really shouldnt be randomly attempting to lynch someone.

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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:38 am

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I'm liking an Thesp lynch. Lurkah scum.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:57 pm

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Dang. I see good posts. This means I'm gonna have to read them.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:01 pm

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Why hasn't anyone commented on my accusation of spectrumvoid (apart from voidie herself)? I prefer her as the lynch candidate and I'd like to know how that makes you feel.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:08 pm

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Because you didn't post a case...Just a whole PBP
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:13 pm

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TSQ - hmm, I recognize those words. Even if it wasn't a case, they are the thoughts that lead me to spectrumvoid. And you are still capable of checking her up yourself. She hasn't posted that much.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:17 pm

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dahen wrote: First, my post was not a case against you, it was a re-read and all thoughts as they came and went.
Yet you vote spectrumvoid in the end of that post. I see that as a case veiled as a post by post analyzis.

Zindaras, do you think dahen made a good analyzis about spectrumvoid being scum or did he open your eyes only in my case?
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:22 pm

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Olio - it is an analysis and I wrote it as I read through the game without changing a word that I already written. However, I wanted to vote someone in the end, and I didn't think the vote leaders were good candidates. We have a deadline and I like spectrumvoid to be our lynchee. You seem offended by that. Is that so?
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:23 pm

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Oh yes, about Zindaras.
Generalizing my words about self-voting and close to 100% sureness about The Eye of the Mordor not being scum. So far Zindaras has also been so sure about CPE and STD being scum, both somewhat cleared now. I think he is trying to mislead town.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:25 pm

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dahen wrote:We have a deadline and I like spectrumvoid to be our lynchee. You seem offended by that. Is that so?
Why do you want to know if I'm offended by that? Also, if it wasn't a case, could you please present it then?
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:36 pm

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olio wrote:Zindaras, do you think dahen made a good analyzis about spectrumvoid being scum or did he open your eyes only in my case?
I'll agree there's a certain dissonance in spectrumvoid's posting, and I'm getting pings from her, but I'd prefer to get you out of the way first. I may or may not vote spectrumvoid later on. I didn't find dahen's case compelling because, well, there didn't seem to be a big case. The case was his PbPA, and I got that spectrum's scummy out of it, but not why I should be voting her.

If dahen comes up with a better case, I may vote her, yes.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:52 pm

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Since I've totally been re-reading the thread when I should have been writing, my top lynch candidates are EoM, Thesp and Olio, with Olio being the most substantial.

I don't like Olio's post 78, where he advocates lynching EoM simply for his beginning self-vote. When Zindaras pressed for an explanation, post 82 seemed overdefensive, and I still didn't like his reasoning. Post 84 also seemed overdefensive, as if he were trying a little too hard to cast suspicion on Zindaras, for asking a question I'd consider logical. In post 119, Olio immediately shifts his vote onto CPE for voting EoM:
Olio wrote:unvote
vote: CPE for attacking poor Mordor like that. Shame on you!
This is right after Olio was voting EoM himself, and CPE's reasoning didn't strike me as being problematic. He also posts in 158 without any real content whatsoever, minor tell.

Regarding EoM, I don't like how he jumped on the CPE bandwagon in 125 so readily. His saying that lynching him is never good for the town is also a minor point.
I've already posted my issues with Thesp earlier, but ultimately I'm going to
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:23 pm

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olio - This is getting painful. It wasn't a case, but it resulted in me voting SV. I summarized the strongest points against her in my answer to her if that's what you are looking for. I could perhaps read the entire thread once again and only focus on SV, but I don't have time for that and I think it's much more valuable if you can give your views on the points I've already presented first.

I feel it very compelling to switch my vote to Olio, but I realize I am upset at the moment. I'll at least let myself calm down first.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:42 pm

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I really like a thesp lynch.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:16 am

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dahen, you didn't answer my question. Props for calming down before voting, though :)

Illumina, what was the question Zindaras asked you considered logical?
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:33 am

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Oh yes- dahen, I also forgot to ask why are you getting angry to me for commenting your accusation? Isn't that what you asked for?
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:40 am

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As a replacement, I thought it'll make common sense to spend time reading the game over. I generally don't trust other people to tell me what went on. While I wasn't hoping for a miracle, I hoped to at leat have a few scum vibes.

Dahen: Probably it's because in your PBPA you added comments like: I think SV is scummy here, but I'll wait and see. That swings it from neutral PBPA to a case on me. Coupled with the vote at the end.
dahen wrote: I don't see a distancing voting coming at this point, so
I have to leave the Spectrumvoid+STD pair as scums
That underlined bit is where I misunderstood I think. I was under the impression you thought STD + SV = scum.

I'm not keen on a lurker lynch for today, I think we have a couple of other candidates to choose from which will give us more information for tomorrow.

My thoughts on Olio + Zindaras: I think either one or the other is scum. I don't see a scum pairing for this one, mainly because of the way they're accusing each other. I agree with the scum tells that the 2 of them have made, but they're currently equal in my LOS. While Olio wanted to lynch EOM, Zindaras wanted to lynch for the sake of a lynch. While Olio didn't respond satisfactorily, Zindaras been confusing regarding the 2 cops.

The person I don't want to lynch right now is TSQ. Simply because I don't think he's more scummy than the other two.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:44 am

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Great to see some good posts.
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I'll review the discussed candidates and come back with opinions.

Olio - I apologize for my strong reactions. I will answer your questions when I have a little more time.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:57 am

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My thoughts on Olio + Zindaras: I think either one or the other is scum. I don't see a scum pairing for this one, mainly because of the way they're accusing each other. I agree with the scum tells that the 2 of them have made, but they're currently equal in my LOS. While Olio wanted to lynch EOM, Zindaras wanted to lynch for the sake of a lynch. While Olio didn't respond satisfactorily, Zindaras been confusing regarding the 2 cops.
And you don't think they could be distancing?
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:57 am

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Thestatusquo wrote:I really like a thesp lynch.
Didnt you already say that?
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:01 am

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Yes, I was agreeing with what illumina.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:21 pm

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So, deadline is tomorrow, and I really dont see a clear case for anyone to lynch.

I'm almost tempted to go along with the Thesp voting. He hasnt said anything since my name was cleared, and seems to have gone into lurking mode for some reason or another. The last time I remember him contributing anything was when he said I needed to die, back on page 11.

Maybe he could explain why his appearances in this thread have seemingly dwindled?
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:32 pm

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Given the interaction I see between TSQ and Hurrikaty, I want to
vote TSQ


Don't see the point of a Thesp lynch; much of what he's doing is typical Thesp. I'd consider pressing Illumina also.

@Hurrikaty-I find it strange that you don't seem to understand the deadline lynch rules. Somebody will be lynched among the vote the leaders; alko has said that.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:53 pm

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Well, I've never played with Thesp, so I dont know what typical Thesp would be.

Also, I understand the deadline rules completely. I just am not sure if there is any clear leader right now in votes.

Mod, could we get a VC!?
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:17 pm

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Hello everybody, the giant yellow bird is here to help you all with
The Official Vote Count!


TheStatusQuo – 3 – Wuffles_II, TheEyeofMordor, Thok

Hurrikaty - 2 - Thesp, Fritzler
Zindaras - 2 - Save the Dragons, Olio

TheEyeofMordor – 1 – Thestatusquo
creampuffeater – 1 – Mert
Marli – 1 – Bogre
Klebian - 1 - creampuffeater
Olio - 1 - Zindaras

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alive, it takes
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to make the giant yellow bird a happy birdie.

Those who are left in the nest – 5 – Illumina, HurriKaty, Toaster Strudel, SpectrumVoid, dahen
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