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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:13 am

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I have been looking for a replacement for Bogre, and Mert. Modkills are likely going to be happening if I continue to find nothing.

Vote count coming soon.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:19 am

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Have any of you read
A Wild
Vote Chase!
?

Bogre
- 2 - Zindaras, Thok

dahen
- 1- CrashTextDummie

Those who are still on a wild sheep chase – 10 – Illumina, SpectrumVoid, Klebian, Fritzler, Bogre, Thesp, dahen, Mert, creampuffeater, Toaster Strudel

13 alive, 7 to lynch
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:57 pm

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Yeeps I'm here, dudes. I've been on vacation.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:21 pm

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vote: cpe


Scum for sure.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:23 pm

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I am scum for bieng a cop that kills the person on a guilty result. Also, say I am scum, why would I not kill N0, and then Claim the kill on N1. Wifom here, but it seems to me like you just want me dead no matter what.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:48 pm

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I'm beginning to question the wisdom of leaving any churchies alive.
Vote: creampuffeater, Vote: creampuffeater.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:32 pm

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creampuffeater wrote:I am scum for bieng a cop that kills the person on a guilty result. Also, say I am scum, why would I not kill N0, and then Claim the kill on N1. Wifom here, but it seems to me like you just want me dead no matter what.
You should never leave out such a large part of your role. This makes me believe that you DID cause the ashes, but not the way you say, and you're telling us this so that a tracker or someone similar doesn't oust you...
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:10 pm

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Ugh, I must've been drunk when I first counted the votes. *fixed* in last count.


And yet another
Vote Count!


creampuffeater
- 3 - Klebian, Thesp, Thesp

Bogre
- 2 - Zindaras, Thok

dahen
- 1- CrashTextDummie

Those who are still lost – 8 – Illumina, SpectrumVoid, Fritzler, Bogre, dahen, Mert, creampuffeater, Toaster Strudel

13 alive, 7 to lynch
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:50 pm

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klebian wrote:
creampuffeater wrote:I am scum for bieng a cop that kills the person on a guilty result. Also, say I am scum, why would I not kill N0, and then Claim the kill on N1. Wifom here, but it seems to me like you just want me dead no matter what.
You should never leave out such a large part of your role. This makes me believe that you DID cause the ashes, but not the way you say, and you're telling us this so that a tracker or someone similar doesn't oust you...
Its not a BIG part of my role, its just something that wasnt mentioned. The Big part of my role is that I am a cop. The smaller part is I kill guilties.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:02 pm

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That's like 50% of your role CPE. You can reasonably think of yourself as either a cop or vig.

It is conceivable the CPE is scum, or perhaps some type of scum cop. That said, I'm not convinced that CPE is worth lynching today; if he's got a chance to kill scum, I say let him do so and make scum panic over how to deal with him.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:37 am

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Thok: What might happen instead is someone might protect CPE if they thought he was a non-scummy cop. That way we waste a protection, assuming he's scum.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:37 am

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Oh, and here's an
fos: cpe
till I think over this scum-coppish business.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:42 am

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CPE's role seems very, very far-fetched to me.

I would only believe such a role if there was something questionable about the cop/vig sanity, otherwise, it's just too strong a role to be plausible.

@CPE - anything in your role PM that might make your sanity questionable?
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:47 am

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Zindaras wrote:Satanic, Criminal, Damned. 3 non-town alignments. PK always uses Self Aligned for Serial Killers, as far as I know. Damned Aligned Teacher doesn't make sense. At all.
StD was a nice cultivation target after yesterday
. I prolly would've gone for him in that case.
That's a reasonable assumption. But dahen was suspicious of STD yesterday. He basically went "oh well, STD was cult, told ya so". It's too convenient.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:31 am

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spectrumvoid wrote:Thok: What might happen instead is someone might protect CPE if they thought he was a non-scummy cop. That way we waste a protection, assuming he's scum.
If he's drawing kills from other scum groups, then we've already gained by having a scum kill that's not targetting a member of the town (assuming CPE is scum, which it's unclear).

Moreover, we've been told that his claimed kill type is a new type of kill, different than the other three types of kills we saw day 1.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:45 pm

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This setup is really exciting!

I still think a cult is logical, and I agree with Zindaras that STD was probably the best target for a recruiter. I don't think that it's CPE though. I really think he can turn people to ash. Maybe he really is a paladin with ash-turning ability. Or he is just a pyromaniac SK who didn't kill the first night and decided to make his fake claim sound better now that he happened to hit a satanic. However, that would be proven wrong if a townie gets ashed later, so maybe not. Anyway, I'd leave CPE for today.
SV wrote:I think both dahen and Zindaras are suspicious, on the basis of post 358, 359, and 361.
358 and 359 are from Zindie and he doesn't even mention me there. 361 is where I move my vote to TSQ just before the dead-line since I didn't want to see Zindie dead. It's a follow-up to my own
dahen wrote: Ok, not much time left. I don't want to see zindaras dead, so I will soon vote TSQ if the voting doesn't change.
...
I will take a quick look at the other guys with one vote each and get back.
SV wrote: Doesn't anyone want to respond to posts 406-7?
Why did you ask this question after less than two days and when only one person apart from you had posted since those posts?
SV wrote: Post 361 has dahen voting TSQ because 'nothing happened.' Hopping on wagon?
Do you really need to ask that question if you read 357 as well (see above)?
TS wrote: Pressure vote... why not. We are stalled.

vote: Bogre
What!? Stalled? This is one of the more information-rich games I've seen. Ok, the activity is low since it's been holidays, but come on. Sure, pressure can be a good tool, but no, we are not stalled.
fos: TS


Klebian doesn't say much, except taking the easy route and voting CPE for not claiming all at once. I'm not sure about CPE, but I don't think Klebian looks very good either. I'll do a re-read on him.
I think Thok's reasoning on CPE is sound and SV's comment is of course a possible scenario, but I wouldn't say probable.
fos: SV

CTD wrote: But dahen was suspicious of STD yesterday. He basically went "oh well, STD was cult, told ya so". It's too convenient.
Yes, it would be very convenient. However, after thinking this through, I think the most logical is that STD got recruited this night, meaning he wasn't cult yesterday.

I'll see if I can pair SV and TS in the same scum group or if I have to assume that they are in separate. I would be very suprised if I would be wrong on both of them.[/s]
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:57 pm

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cpe
, why did you target StD even after HurriKaty claimed him to be a (Town Aligned?) Teacher?
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:31 am

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Same.

Clarification of the 1st quote:
358-9: Zindie. 361: dahen.

I asked that question hoping someone would actually respond. Helloooo... only 2 people posting in 2 days? Since when was trying to get discussion started scummy?

I still don't like your reasoning. Basically you were willing to lynch TSQ, not because he was on top of your LOS, but because you didn't want Zin to die. That just reeks of scumminess, and it felt like you were using the deadline as an excuse to hop on.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:32 am

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Confused over the different kind of kills, cults, etc. I'm hoping to get a clearer idea when I get back tomorrow.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:35 am

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SV:
It's not scummy to try to get discussion started. However, I felt you were pointing out that it was strange that you didn't get answers. Strange as in basis for accusing.

Yes, I was willing to lynch TSQ, since the choice was between him and Zindaras. Since I thought that Zindaras was town, it was an easy vote for TSQ. Why do you put negative words like "deadlinge as an excuse"? The deadline was my REASON to vote TSQ. If there is no time to start a discussion I will always vote for the 2nd guy if I believe the 1st guy to be more townish.

Are you really suggesting that I should have behaved otherwise? Your posts are filled with negative words. It's like you want to create doubt around me so others will vote me instead of just voting me yourself and get confronted on your weak reasons.

I hope you don't feel offended by my words. I apologize if that is the case. It's sometimes hard to be accurate without sounding offensive.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:38 am

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spectrumvoid wrote:I still don't like your reasoning. Basically you were willing to lynch TSQ, not because he was on top of your LOS, but because you didn't want Zin to die. That just reeks of scumminess, and it felt like you were using the deadline as an excuse to hop on.
As dahen said, this is bad reasoning. You should always try to get your top suspect lynched, but if someone you think is town is on the chopping block it is perfectly acceptable to go for a player you are less (but more than the guy you think is town) suspicious of.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:56 am

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LOL, since I seem to be the only one with this glitch on these boards, I'd just like to point out that Zindaras's gender is STD's avatar

Zindie is of the STD sex.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:58 am

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al_kohaulec wrote:LOL, since I seem to be the only one with this glitch on these boards, I'd just like to point out that Zindaras's gender is STD's avatar

Zindie is of the STD sex.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:02 am

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EBWOP: I gues everybody is

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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:33 am

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al_kohaulec wrote:EBWOP: I gues everybody is
Gender confusion at its best.
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