NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[dramonic]

unvote
vote: bulba

[BulbaFenix]

So my question. Are you all still voting on that townread on page 2 comment? Or is there something else I'm not seeing?

That's part of what made me initially suspect him as scum, as well as his 3 scum reads in #44, which read as fake and sloppily thrown together. However, it was his lack of scumhunting and his posts only designed to stir the pot that cemented my scumread.

BULBA IS REALLY TRYIGN TO PUSH US ON THAT HORSESHIT "THEYRE AFRAID TO BE LYNCHED" LINE?

I'm not trying to push it, since I only mentioned it once, and in a catchup post at that.

Caught up and have snuck onto a computer. Disappointed with Fenix, as he was supposed to help me by getting me live reads while I read through the game. Anyway, here is the official reads list and catchup post:

Town

Rift Adrift

: 1 of 2 strong town reads from when I was initially skimming the thread before we replaced in. They are actively scumhunting, and all of their posts read genuine.

Calcifer

: 2nd of the strong town reads from initial skim. Same as Calcifer, only not as strong.

King Crabd

: All of their posts read as genuine. There is no attempt at fakery here.

Ankamius

: There is some genuine thought here. I was a little nervous about his mention of LYLO in #328, but I get the sense that he's the type of player to consider that as town.

DOMO

: Not as much of a gut read as the others. They appeal to the logic part of me, and they are actively scumhunting. Everything they do comes from town motivation. Therefore, they're town.

Metal Sonic

: Trust me, he's town. I wish he'd post more, though, without me having to tunnel him to death...

Baby Spice

: What little she's posted has consisted of actual scumhunting. I'd like to see more, but I'm willing to call her town for now.

BROseidon

: Everybody who thinks he's scum needs to have their heads examined. Calling out a stupid anti-town plan is not scummy. Self-voting is not scummy (contrary to popular opinion). Heck, in Voided's Nightless Mountainous game, there were 4 self votes (including myself). Guess what? They were all town. He's doing some genuine scumhunting here. He's town. Deal with it.

Null/Town

Zdenek

: I almost want to call him town. However, he's done a few things that I've never seen from him before when he was town in Voided's game. I want to observe him a little bit more first before I put him fully in the town pile.

TheIrishPope

: Fenix convinced me to put him more in the null section. Personally, I like him for town. I'm not sure I see the scum motivation in his posts. Regardless, he makes me laugh, so I'm not keen about lynching him anytime soon.

Null

Orcinus_theoriginal

: Not sure how to take this one. On the one hand, I like him for town, due to him actively scumhunting. On the other hand, I'm not agreeing with a lot of his reads, and he's been too eager lately to jump on some really fishy wagons. I think I'll need more time to sort this one out.

Serene

: Personally, I'd love to list this slot as town, not only because I liked the Newbie rage quit from their predecessor, but also because I like the idea of all the hydras being town together. However, I really do not like #646. Normally when I've seen town super secret hydras, they are not worried about being lynched should the heads become known, rather, they're worried about being NK'd. The fact that Serene said lynched suggests that they're not worried about the NK. I also do not like their push of Calcifer. The only reason they are null is because I see reasons why they could be town, and I originally wanted to put them as null/town. However, Fenix wanted to put them as scum. We compromised, hence the null.

The Goat

: Nothing much has been posted from this slot. The closest we get to anything alignment indicative is #461, which feels slightly town to me. Interested in what we get from his replacement.

TSO

: Honestly, I keep flip flopping on him. He'll post something I'll believe is scummy, such as some of his initial cases, or his attack of Metal Sonic, or his recent push for town cred. But then he'll post a bunch of things that are strongly town. I'll probably watch him and see what I think about him tomorrow.

Nero

: Eddie likes him for town. I have a bit of a scum lean on him. However, I'm not sure if this is due to actual scumminess or a difference in playstyle. He posts similarly to TIP, but he's not doing so to be funny. He doesn't explain any of his reads, he attacks players without basis, and I'm sure I've seen him arbitrarily sheeping at points (I need to check this one out later.). At best his play is anti-town. I'm just not sure if it's actually scummy.

?Null/Scum?

Shadi1337

: To be honest, I'm beginning to like him more, so he may move up before long. I just didn't like his flail earlier, as I didn't think that it felt like town flail. Fenix and I struggled real hard on his placement. Actually, screw it, he's plain null. Fenix, we can talk about it later.

Actual Null/Scum

StubbsKVM

: Fenix and I went back and forth on this one. Admittedly, it's a gut read. I don't think that a lot of his posts feel genuine. Definitely going to watch this slot as the day progresses.

Brian Hollywood

: Fenix fought for his placement closer to the scum pile. Brian hasn't posted anything game related. All of his posts have avoided what was actually happening at the time. I also don't buy his reaction to Zdenek's fake day kill, as that gambit is common enough that Brian's reaction could be faked (I've actually seen it at least twice before, and I'm relatively new to the site.).

Scum

TMTOLBTWNTOF

: I actually agree with our predecessor on this slot, although I get the feeling that Fenix is not convinced. TMT is active lurking. What he posts appears to be content at first glance, but it is actually saying nothing of importance.

Doc Holliday

: I don't like his blatant opportunism. I also feel that he and TIP are not on the same team, due to his #75 and TIP's response. If Doc is actually town, I'm actually going to take a second look at TIP.

StevieT92

: His reasons for voting and suspecting slots near the beginning of the day were bad, and I also didn't like how he said that no one should be townreading anybody so early in the game. It felt like he was trying to keep town from finding each other for as long as possible, and instead wanted them to focus on who he deigned as scum. His posts since then have not improved.

Dramonic

: His posts have contained absolutely no content. #734 feels more like knowledge than actual setup spec. He feels sure in his answer, where anybody speculating would use language that indicated that they were unsure or guessing.

ProHawk

: Post #10 was really bad, as has been repeatedly explained. However, I can understand why people are hesitant to use that as their only reasoning. His later posts, though, do not feel like town. They have a slimy quality to them, and it feels as if he's trying to manipulate people when he addresses them so that they say something that he can attack as scummy. He's scum and needs to be lynched as soon as possible. I'll be addressing some of his posts soon.

Going to address a few more recent posts before I go. Any questions?

-Bulba

Some quality scum tryharding up in this thread.


BOKO WO MITE

BOKO WO MITE

I LISTED READ ON EEEREYBODY IN DA CLUB.


PICK THESE APART AND YOU SEE THESE READS FOR THE SHALLOW SACKS OF CONTENT THEY REALLY ARE.

"dramonic has posted almost no content" = "THE GRASS IS FUCKING GREEN AND GUESS WHAT THE SKY IS BLUE"

and theres so much dissonance and excuses to be on the fence on about a 100 people its not even funny

this shit

needs

to BURN

VOTE: BULBAFENIX

That's my catchup reads post, which I do in every game I replace in. I wasn't trying to push anything in particular, simply stating on what my thoughts are on the game and the various slots after replacing in and reading through the entirety of the thread.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at dramonic's posts to see that, before the claim of the mason pairing, there is NOTHING that he is contributing as far as the hunt for scum goes.

What has Nero or TOTPBWhatever contributed?

Absolutely nothing, which is why I personally have varying degrees of scumreads on them.

Tell me, what makes us so scummy to you??

Your opportunism in attacking what you viewed as a vulnerable head (an accusation you later went on to attack someone else with after doing this yourself)

I didn't set out to attack any one head on purpose. He was simply the one that responded. My questions were to your hydra in general, as I actually could care less who's in it.

Your constant "POST READS NOW READS NOW READS NOW THOSE AREN'T READS READS NOW"

Once again, that's a complete misrepresentation of my posts. All I've asked for you to do is ISO the players that have made up my slot and to give analysis, which you have refused to do. I dislike how you continue to dodge this issue and misrep me in an attempt to show them as scummy.

while ignoring other players who have done jack and or shit

Who have I ignored?

Your endless "ohhh you just wait till bulba sees this" fuck you and your bulba

Hydra dissonence is not scummy. As far as that issue is concerned, we have discussed it at length, and it has been taken care of.

Accusing people of posting fluff while again ignoring people who do the same

Who have I ignored?

Your attempt to use the meta of a player who ISN'T EVEN IN THE FUCKING GAME to justify your anything ("I've seen kuribo as town and" no fuck you)

Rift said, "Hey, it's Kuribo!", and given the posting style, I believed it. If I was wrong, then it was an honest mistake and all points dependent on that should be disregarded. However, that mistake would still not be alignment indicative.

Now does anybody else have any other questions, or am I going to be forced to read peoples' minds?

-Bulba

[Metal Sonic]

Less caps more faps

[Rift Adrift]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BULBA

SERENITY NOW

SERENITY NOW

AHEHAHAHAHAHAH

ALL ABOARD THE DEATH MOTHAFUCKIN TRAIN

[Serene]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BULBA

SERENITY NOW

SERENITY NOW

AHEHAHAHAHAHAH

ALL ABOARD THE DEATH MOTHAFUCKIN TRAIN

i support this 100%

[Serene]

Who have I ignored?

metal sonic--- by his own admission--- has posted absolutely shit


and you call him town while directly addressing him like, what? twice?

[Selkies]

"you are ignoring person X in a 24 player game"

jesus fucking god you have no case on bulba

[Ankamius]

Fuck, catching up is harder than I originally thought it would be.

What's the case on BulbaFenix? That would be a good place to start pinning down some updated reads.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

"you are ignoring person X in a 24 player game"

jesus fucking god you have no case on bulba

me, sorry

[BulbaFenix]

Who have I ignored?

metal sonic--- by his own admission--- has posted absolutely shit


and you call him town while directly addressing him like, what? twice?

I've played with Metal Sonic before. This is his town game, although I did say in my catchup post that I wanted to see him post more. He's a decent scumhunter when he puts his mind to it.

-Bulba

[TMTOLBTWNTOF]

Who have I ignored?

metal sonic--- by his own admission--- has posted absolutely shit

hnng but that's his town meta

I can't say the same for Baby Spice, BulbaFenix.
Have you played with Baby Spice and found that that's town game?

pedit- statement 1 is obsolete now

[BulbaFenix]

Have you played with Baby Spice and found that that's town game?

The only game I've played with BS is currently ongoing. Therefore, I have no idea what BS-town looks like.

-Bulba

[Metal Sonic]

Serene is a dumber, more uncivilised and extra vulgar dgb

Thank goodness your heads are anonymous or else your gonna get blacklisted

[Metal Sonic]

Specifically head #2

[Baby Spice]

It's Fate, isn't it.

[Ankamius]

It's Fate, isn't it.

I'm going to be deeply disappointed if it's Fate.

I doubt it is, though.

[StubbsKVM]

Okay, because I didn't really get why there's so many players voting or suspecting Stevie, I ISOed him to see if I missed anything.

Scum suspect #2 is BROseidan for making a town read on page 2.

can you tell me how this is scummy and how this doesn't work in reverse?

Because in the beginning of the game a good town is supposed to be suspicious of everyone. It should take more than 2 pages of fluff/RVS for you to determine that someone is a townie.

Scumhunting, on the other hand, is always encouraged.

skimmed stuff because im lazy and talking to a friend in the library

i never said don't townread, i said you shouldn't have a townread by page two. do you get the difference and why i think that might be.

unvote, vote:nero

for the 2 back to back votes with no analysis or reason for the switch.

I think I get what he's trying to say, he just put it out there in a bad way. I suppose he means it's impossible to be certain about someone being town on page 2?

good work comrades, pile the votes on stevie. if required, i will hardclaim my role to get him lynched.

Just re-posting this quote to remind you all of what a scum Nero is. I think BROseidon is probably the best, most agreed-upon lynch target today. Will ISO him for my next post. I'm not going to move my vote off of him, but I will definitely hammer him.

I've seen one post where he said he still had to ISO BRO, but he never actually did it. I'm not sure I get that last line. "I will definitely hammer him." How can you hammer someone if you're already voting for him? Don't get it.

So my expected internet problems have finally manifested themselves. I am too busy to read 17 pages right now but I will try to get to Starbucks later tonight. Expect a post tomorrow at the latest.

Regards,
Stevie

This is his last post. Still nothing on BRO.


So my question. Are you all still voting on that townread on page 2 comment? Or is there something else I'm not seeing?

Why isn't anyone answering?

[BulbaFenix]

Okay, because I didn't really get why there's so many players voting or suspecting Stevie, I ISOed him to see if I missed anything.

Scum suspect #2 is BROseidan for making a town read on page 2.

can you tell me how this is scummy and how this doesn't work in reverse?

Because in the beginning of the game a good town is supposed to be suspicious of everyone. It should take more than 2 pages of fluff/RVS for you to determine that someone is a townie.

Scumhunting, on the other hand, is always encouraged.

skimmed stuff because im lazy and talking to a friend in the library

i never said don't townread, i said you shouldn't have a townread by page two. do you get the difference and why i think that might be.

unvote, vote:nero

for the 2 back to back votes with no analysis or reason for the switch.

I think I get what he's trying to say, he just put it out there in a bad way. I suppose he means it's impossible to be certain about someone being town on page 2?

good work comrades, pile the votes on stevie. if required, i will hardclaim my role to get him lynched.

Just re-posting this quote to remind you all of what a scum Nero is. I think BROseidon is probably the best, most agreed-upon lynch target today. Will ISO him for my next post. I'm not going to move my vote off of him, but I will definitely hammer him.

I've seen one post where he said he still had to ISO BRO, but he never actually did it. I'm not sure I get that last line. "I will definitely hammer him." How can you hammer someone if you're already voting for him? Don't get it.

So my expected internet problems have finally manifested themselves. I am too busy to read 17 pages right now but I will try to get to Starbucks later tonight. Expect a post tomorrow at the latest.

Regards,
Stevie

This is his last post. Still nothing on BRO.


So my question. Are you all still voting on that townread on page 2 comment? Or is there something else I'm not seeing?

Why isn't anyone answering?

So my question. Are you all still voting on that townread on page 2 comment? Or is there something else I'm not seeing?

That's part of what made me initially suspect him as scum, as well as his 3 scum reads in #44, which read as fake and sloppily thrown together. However, it was his lack of scumhunting and his posts only designed to stir the pot that cemented my scumread.

-Bulba

-Fenix

[StubbsKVM]

okay thanks I must have missed that.

anyone else want to answer?

Bulbafenix, why does that make him your biggest scumread?

[Zdenek]

ISO me.

[StubbsKVM]

I would rather have you answer me. Perhaps your opinion has changed.

[Zdenek]

I don't think Stevie has posted much since. If you want, you can add trying to lurk the pressure off to the list, but I don't care. Otherwise, no it hasn't changed.

[StubbsKVM]

So my expected internet problems have finally manifested themselves. I am too busy to read 17 pages right now but I will try to get to Starbucks later tonight. Expect a post tomorrow at the latest.

Regards,
Stevie

I'm still waiting for this too.

[Calcifer]

Yes we have

And Shadi's wall is ass

But town.

but also because I like the idea of all the hydras being town together.

This is weird and I have no idea why you said this.

Normally when I've seen town super secret hydras, they are not worried about being lynched should the heads become known, rather, they're worried about being NK'd. The fact that Serene said lynched suggests that they're not worried about the NK.

But they're worried about scum lynching them, meaning do you think they are worried about being bussed?

Honestly, I keep flip flopping on him. He'll post something I'll believe is scummy, such as some of his initial cases, or his attack of Metal Sonic, or his recent push for town cred. But then he'll post a bunch of things that are strongly town. I'll probably watch him and see what I think about him tomorrow.

Better yet, you can show us the scummy things and show us the townie things. Maybe it will help you decide for yourselves, but at the least it'll show us where you're coming from.

I almost want to call him town. However, he's done a few things that I've never seen from him before when he was town in Voided's game. I want to observe him a little bit more first before I put him fully in the town pile.

His play here looks nothing like it did in Voided. Why are you reading him as town?

I don't like his blatant opportunism. I also feel that he and TIP are not on the same team, due to his #75 and TIP's response. If Doc is actually town, I'm actually going to take a second look at TIP.

I don't like this at all. Why does #75 & response make one of them scum?

And no I'm not ignoring it, and if you'd like I'll acknowledge its existence right now

Why didn't you acknowledge it before?

Well screw you bud.

Prohawk you're being extraordinarily useless and it hurts my soul a lot. Please stop being extraordinarily useless and either A) just be useless or B) be extraordinarily full of use.

Still pushing that Gambler's Fallacy, eh? Cute.

That's not anything close to Gambler's Fallacy.

I also find it interesting that you start posting up a storm right after I call you scum. Speaking of which, Dramonic is getting the attention he deserves.

I'm reading him as town.

I think I understand my hydra partner's thought process enough to let her do her own thing. I'll figure out her alignment eventually.

Ummm.

Why is something worrying you

You didn't notice this before?

GREAT KARMIC VIBRATIONS

orcinus_theoriginal

How cute. Bulba starts calling us scum after the site deleted our post where i referred to him as scum.

VOTE: serene

bulba stevie are scum maybe with orc

Have you been reading what Serene is posting or do you just want to get into a fight with him because it will cause a lot of noise and people won't be bothered to read either of you?

No.

he's not town, though

I didn't like the way bulba went after them.

so they're town because somebody made attacked them in a bad way?

come on

your push on them is atrocious.

This is like a spooky, ethereal Beetlejuice summons.

Syr and I were only minutes ago discussing on gchat whether to put a vote on your absent self or to vote Bulba.

When do you expect to be able to catch up?

probably not until next year, honestly.

[Serene]

Calcifer's post lacks a conclusion.

That bugs me but that's probably because I'm running out of incense.