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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:26 pm

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Akbar wrote:
spectrumvoid wrote:
unvote because of this
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I will be away from now till Monday due to Chinese New Year.
So your convinced I'm scum, but you don't want to leave your vote on me and......miss the action?
In her defense, I would and have done the same... you never know what will happen.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:23 am

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The deadline is extended to tuesday the 20th, 11 pm GMT.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:14 am

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Uuh a deadline in a game I'm not 100% coinfident about lynching scum.. that's just wrong.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:34 pm

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I read through the game a couple of days ago and I remember thinking IH had a point, there wasn't much of a concrete case against him considering the level of suspicion there has seemed to be in the second half of the game or thereabouts. TCS claims to have found a scum tell but doesn't say what it is, giving IH nothing to defend himself against. I wouldn't be
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I think ShadowLurker has been evasive and unhelpful, things that always make me deeply suspicious. There was no suspicion of IH at all until post 88, where ShadowLurker FOSes him with no comment. More than one person asks him to explain the FOS, he refuses. He then upgrades the FOS to a vote, again with no explanation. This all happens well before anyone else takes an interest in IH, as does this, post 135:
ShadowLurker wrote:So our three scum are AndrewS, IH, and TCS, which one of them should we lynch first?
A scum group of 3 now, but - of course - still no explanation. Then later in the game there is much more interest in IH, who reaches 5 votes at one point, and what does ShadowLurker do? He unvotes IH and votes Lowell instead, announcing:
ShadowLurker wrote:The scumgroup of the day is AndrewS and Lowell.
We are - naturally - given no reason for IH being dropped, any more than we were for his being on the list in the first place.

TCS has already picked up on this:
TCS wrote:Sorry for the triple... I want you to explain

1) Why IH was scummy and then stopped being so in your eyes, not hammering him, and not even mentioning his wagon in your posts.
The reply:
ShadowLurker wrote:I wanted to see a reaction, he had been lurking. While he is still lurking, I didn't really find anything unsual to warrant him being lynched.
This is really unconvincing. The original vote came long before there was any indication that IH was lurking.

Then there's the other issue addressed by TCS in the same post to ShadowLurker: the changes of mind about AndrewS, who he first declares to be scum, then all but cleared by a townie tell (he does eventually explain the tell, pretty much the only thing he's ever answered) and finally scum again.
TCS wrote:2) Why Andrews had a "huge town tell" that made you "almost certain" of his innocence, but is now part of the scumgroup.
and the reply:
ShadowLurker wrote: Plz read the preceding page.
Quite deliberately unhelpful. ShadowLurker has evaded answering any awkward question put to him, or even neutral questions such as asking him the reasons for a FOS or a vote.

But my vote stays on Battle Mage as long as he continues to avoid explaining exactly what he meant by post 11. This has been raised at least 4 times now by different players, and he continues to ignore it every time, or pretends not to understand.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:10 pm

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Ok, so my top three most scummy are IH, SL, and Akbar, in that order. IH because he lurks and has yet to post any content helpful to the game. SL for pretty much the same reason, except throw in a couple of blatant evasions and unexplained FOS-ing, voting, and the like. Akbar for his borderline-WIFOM. I still have my suspicions about spectrumvoid, but that's more of a gut feeling than anything I can explain.

I'd like for everyone to explain why they're voting for who they are voting for... or just post something. I'm a little frustrated that there are two obvious scum here and the day is still going.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:21 pm

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TCS wrote:Ok, so my top three most scummy are IH, SL, and Akbar, in that order.
IH because he lurks and has yet to post any content helpful to the game.
SL for pretty much the same reason, except throw in a couple of blatant evasions and unexplained FOS-ing, voting, and the like. Akbar for his borderline-WIFOM. I still have my suspicions about spectrumvoid, but that's more of a gut feeling than anything I can explain.
LAWL, have you even read the last few pages?

Not only that, but you have now entered the realm of lurker hunting. = )
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:51 pm

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Ripley, Ripley is the most like scum. Now he brings another person up, trying so hard to get a lynch while yet appearing innocent. Lowell too, has acted scummy, and trying to defend his fellow scum, and counter claim.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:06 pm

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IH wrote:LAWL, have you even read the last few pages?

Not only that, but you have now entered the realm of lurker hunting. = )
Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
Fircoal wrote:Ripley, Ripley is the most like scum. Now he brings another person up, trying so hard to get a lynch while yet appearing innocent. Lowell too, has acted scummy, and trying to defend his fellow scum, and counter claim.
I really don't see what you're seeing.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:20 pm

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
IH wrote:LAWL, have you even read the last few pages?

Not only that, but you have now entered the realm of lurker hunting. = )
Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
When did he say he was still ill?
Fircoal wrote:Ripley, Ripley is the most like scum. Now he brings another person up, trying so hard to get a lynch while yet appearing innocent. Lowell too, has acted scummy, and trying to defend his fellow scum, and counter claim.
I really don't see what you're seeing.
Ripley first had his scummy response on Bm, and now he sees it as a lost cause. So he's trying to pin the blame on someone else, and try to keep the suspicion away from him by keeping him vote on BM, so he's not called a vote hopper. He really wants the day to end.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:34 pm

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Ripley is always appearing so useful. Framing more innocents is a good way to play when you are not even changing your vote along with your case.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:45 pm

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Twito wrote:Ripley is always appearing so useful. Framing more innocents is a good way to play when you are not even changing your vote along with your case.
He's done the same thing in another game, I think, I could be wrong.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:40 pm

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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:57 pm

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Of course you wouldnt see. You ARE his scumbuddy after all! :roll:



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IH wrote:LAWL, have you even read the last few pages?

Not only that, but you have now entered the realm of lurker hunting. = )
Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
Fircoal wrote:Ripley, Ripley is the most like scum. Now he brings another person up, trying so hard to get a lynch while yet appearing innocent. Lowell too, has acted scummy, and trying to defend his fellow scum, and counter claim.
I really don't see what you're seeing.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:59 pm

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ye, post 11 was pretty weak logic, but it was no less useful than a random vote. On page 1, most people arent taking the game so seriously.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:14 am

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TCS wrote:Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:00 pm

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IH wrote:
TCS wrote:Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?
Are we playing the question game?
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:01 pm

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
IH wrote:
TCS wrote:Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?
Are we playing the question game?
What do you think?
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:04 pm

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Fircoal wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
IH wrote:
TCS wrote:Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?
Are we playing the question game?
What do you think?
Wait, why are you playing?
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:04 pm

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Should I
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:05 pm

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Should I
FOS: Fircoal
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Why should you?
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:51 pm

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
IH wrote:
TCS wrote:Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?
Are we playing the question game?
Why aren't you, or your scumbuddy, lynched yet?
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:54 pm

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IH wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
IH wrote:
TCS wrote:Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?
Are we playing the question game?
Why aren't you, or your scumbuddy, lynched yet?
I have a scumbuddy?
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:58 pm

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
IH wrote:
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
IH wrote:
TCS wrote:Ok, I'll give you a pass for being ill. Now focus on the second part of what I wrote. What have you contributed to the town?
May I repeat. Have you even read the last few pages?
Are we playing the question game?
Why aren't you, or your scumbuddy, lynched yet?
I have a scumbuddy?
who says you don't?
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:24 am

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:Patiently waits for spectrumvoid to return to vote for IH:
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:31 am

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*BM impatiently awaits the wagon on TCS (who is blatantly scum) to grow.
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