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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:06 am

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I was answering Skruffs' questions about having to lynch from a specific scumgroup by using a hypothetical situation wherein Fritzler was SK, to disprove the thought many people seem to have that even if Fritzler is an SK, we should leave him alive.

I do think that Fritzler is a Criminal.
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:14 am

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Well a very famous christian was crucified, but I believe that it was a punishment used against 'criminals of the state' or whatnot. I wouldn't say that it's only used against Christians, though.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:19 am

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No, I know that. But would you expect Christians to crucify others?
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:22 am

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i thought the exorcist had a crucifix, grrr, this is so confusing... *bites myself and then goes to reread the kills things*
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:25 am

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Pariah wrote:
Do you smell that?

It's oil.

Old Bess, the grandmother of seven and mother of the local reverend is smothered in it, tied to the stake, quiet as a stone.

The holy man addressed her.

"Read to us the Lord's prayer,
witch,
lest we burn you alive."

She simply stared down to the straw surronding her feet and her inevitable fate.

"So be it. She has confessed through silence. Burn her alive; leave no ash behind. She is one of many of the Satanic forces gathering in groups, to destroy all that we have created here today. She is one of the ones leaving our families in the meadow."

The roaring flames consumed her body, mixed with her horrifying screams. An outline of pain and a billow of smoke streaked the sky as the holy man tipped his hat down to the Earth and sighed.

"It's a sad day when you have to cremate your own mother for crimes against humanity," the holy man remarked, as he walked off into the distance.

It grew dark, and most went to bed.

But some do not sleep. Some wait.

And smile as the moon rises.


It is now Night One. Send in your night roles if you have them, and even if you don't, send in a confirmation. Night will not end until we have all the confirmations in. You do not need a role target to confirm.

If you do not confirm in a resonable amount of time, you may be replaced.
Church = Burning = Ashes

Church = Criminals

Criminals = Ashing

Fritzler ≠ Criminal
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:28 am

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I've already told you this.

The ash kill has been claimed by creampuffeater, our dead Paladin.
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:31 am

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i give up

i still don't think fritzler is scum cuz i was right about STD hinting at vig and Fritzler further prooved my hypothesis

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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:32 am

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I'd still like to ask you where you got this whole "StD hints at vig" thing.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:33 am

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Pariah wrote:
The meadow...blood covers it tonight. The earth cries out due to the stain from
Primate's
defiled body. The carrier of the soul, the vessel of life, the heart was carved out his chest with a tiny, sharp knife and carved into the shape of a pentagram.

They went to drag his corpse to the cemetery...upon touching the consecrated ground, it broke into flames and turned to ash, blown away by the wind into dust.

The local investigation by the cities' basic police station, if you could call it that, found him to be a simple
town aligned puritan.
The church agreed with this sentiment and mourned his passing.
CPE confirmed this ashing too? I thought i read that he ashed if the person he investigated was evil.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:35 am

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Here are all my notes:


Thesp (Formerly RangeroftheNorth)
* instigated full claim from Kitty (299)
* statusquo wanted lynched (326)

5. spectrumvoid
* first unvoted Cop-Claimer … scum would lurk (IMO)

6. Klebian (Formerly Wuffles_II)


8. dahen (Formerly marli)
* voted by scum (Bogre)
* quickly followed TSQ (scum) wagon

10. Zindaras (Formerly Three Word Name)
* commented on TSQ/wuffles
* 63
* (210)
* hmmm, 221, statusquo voted him
* attacked 231
*asked fritz who to vote (odd, cant read?)
* voted TSQ then quickly changed to Olio after someone else voted TSQ

11. Toaster Strudel
* wanted to vote claimed cop?

18. Fritzler
* ignored TSQ/wuffles
* Fritz isn’t satanic (185)
* hopped on me (215)
* quickly voted Kitty (279)
* quickly joined Olio wagon

19. Skruffs (Formerly Illumina)
*lurked/lazy (88)
* defended hurikitty (town)

20. KaleiÐoscøpe (Formerly Mert)


7. Thestatusquo killed Night 2
Church Findings: Reverend, Town Aligned
Investigation Findings: Murderer, Criminal Aligned


15. Save The Dragons killed Night 2
Church Findings: Teacher, Damned Aligned
Investigation Findings: Teacher, Damned Aligned
* Hints at Vig? (171) – though I disagree with what he said
* Hint at VIG: 211
* cream countered my idea (396)

4. Bogre
Church Findings: Blackleg, Satanic Aligned
Investigation Findings: Confidence Man, Town Aligned
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:36 am

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I asked Fritzler who to vote because I have trouble reading him, so I do stuff like that.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:39 am

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i was postin my notes to support my Dahen is protown and my STD maybe was Vig
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:52 am

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I felt that I had to answer it all the same. Also, the whole dahen thing's good, but that just means that he's not Satanic or Criminal. He could still be SK or Cult or something.
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:53 am

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Zindaras wrote:I felt that I had to answer it all the same. Also, the whole dahen thing's good, but that just means that he's not Satanic or Criminal. He could still be SK or Cult or something.
Cult = we're probably screwed

SK = something we don't need to worry about right now when we have two scum groups....
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:39 am

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Blackberry wrote:
Pariah wrote:
The meadow...blood covers it tonight. The earth cries out due to the stain from
Primate's
defiled body. The carrier of the soul, the vessel of life, the heart was carved out his chest with a tiny, sharp knife and carved into the shape of a pentagram.

They went to drag his corpse to the cemetery...upon touching the consecrated ground, it broke into flames and turned to ash, blown away by the wind into dust.

The local investigation by the cities' basic police station, if you could call it that, found him to be a simple
town aligned puritan.
The church agreed with this sentiment and mourned his passing.
CPE confirmed this ashing too? I thought i read that he ashed if the person he investigated was evil.
nope, I pointed that out too, but I was ignored.
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:42 am

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I remember quoting this post before.
creampuffeater wrote:WAIT WAIT. Let me get rid of some confusion. When I use my cop, if they are scum to the church they turn into a pile of ash (STD). Thats where the kill came from. Right now, I doubt they are the same ashes, as I inspected Fritz N0, not primate
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:56 am

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Zindaras wrote:I remember quoting this post before.
creampuffeater wrote:WAIT WAIT. Let me get rid of some confusion. When I use my cop, if they are scum to the church they turn into a pile of ash (STD). Thats where the kill came from. Right now, I doubt they are the same ashes, as I inspected Fritz N0, not primate
right, but when the ash kills are brought up all you say is CPE DID IT

HE DID

I SAW IT
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:05 am

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Hmm. Reading Blackberry's notes, I can see the justification for dahen being town.
Unvote: dahen.
I think I'm more inclined at this point to think everyone's telling the truth about their roles, and the people who haven't been speaking up are more likely to be scum.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:07 am

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Fritzler wrote:right, but when the ash kills are brought up all you say is CPE DID IT

HE DID

I SAW IT
I was unaware that it was even an issue, as the mod himself said:
al_kohaulec wrote:
Thok wrote:Since this important

Mod
is the ash in Primate's death and the ash in STD's death related (that is should we be connecting them/are they the same kill type/can you say anything)?
The two are not connected.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:34 am

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Zindaras wrote:
Fritzler wrote:well im the shooter

seriously guys, are you going to figure there are four anti town killers?

if no one of them must be pro town

go to night, no one has to claim it, if there is another vig, they will kill me
The Ashes were from creampuffeater, remember? He was Town Aligned. Also, "Just give me one more day." is pretty much the worst argument you can come up with.
note the plural ash attacks
Zindaras wrote:There were four killing methods:
...
Ashes: cpe's killing method. He's dead.
The ashes are only CPE's kill according to you
Zindaras wrote:
Skruffs wrote:You are right, I am still rereading and just piecing together what I have read (so far) and what is going on currently.
Thank you for showing me that about CPE.
I still think the reverend was an SK that incinerated people. There was no crucification, and there was no
ashes
. That's two forms of killing that were not included. That doesn't mean those killers are dead, it's just something to note. :)
cpe claimed to have been the source of the ashes.
et cetera et cetera
Zindaras wrote:
Thus the Criminals Ash people / burn them.
The Ashes were claimed by cpe, our now dead Town Aligned Paladin.
yawn
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:38 am

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I was under the impression that you should use the plural for ashes.

For example, you talk about your mother's ashes, not your mother's ash, right?
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:20 am

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Ouch. And the mod's previously confirmed the ashes were not from the same source/ connected/ etc.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:26 am

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Fritzler -- can you explain your role further? Or just a recap...

Whats people's thoughts on TS?
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:52 pm

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Zindaras wrote:I was under the impression that you should use the plural for ashes.

For example, you talk about your mother's ashes, not your mother's ash, right?
but in all those you talked about the ashes were from CPE, and not any other source
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:46 pm

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Blackberry wrote: 8. dahen (Formerly marli)
* voted by scum (Bogre)
* quickly followed TSQ (scum) wagon
I'd just like to point out that being voted by your scum buddy could very well be distancing, and following the wagon could be an attempt to hide the scum-buddy relationship. (Note that I have yet to reread the entire thread wrt dahen, so this could be crap. I also need to check exactly where did he put on his vote.)
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