Open 9 - Basic Twelve Player (Game Over!) - before 400

[spectrumvoid]

Out of the 9 remaining people, I agree with SL here that lowell here is unlikely to be scum. I've played with him quite a bit, so I'm pretty sure I know him pretty well. (not 100% cleared though, more like 80%.)

I took a look at the voting records, and I agree that Ripley is not scum due to his voting behaviour.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I understand Twito's reasoning, even if I don't agree with it... and I don't see it as particularly anti-town in nature. Misguided, perhaps, but not necessarily wrong.

Therefore,

unvote, vote:Shadowlurker

[Lowell]

Okay, on the assumption that TCS knows what he's doing.

unvote, vote shadowlurker

[spectrumvoid]

TCS: Do you mean you disagree with what Twito said about SL's scumminess, yet you vote SL?

Lowell: Why are you letting yourself be led around?

[Patrick]

Votecount

Shadowlurker (3) -- Akbar, The Central Scrutiniser, Lowell
Fircoal (2) -- Spectrumvoid, Shadowlurker
The Central Scrutiniser (1) -- Battle Mage
Akbar (1) -- Twito


Not Voting: Ripley, Fircoal
9 alive, 5 to lynch.

[Lowell]

Lowell: Why are you letting yourself be led around?

Because I'm a tool. What??

[The Central Scrutinizer]

TCS: Do you mean you disagree with what Twito said about SL's scumminess, yet you vote SL?

Lowell: Why are you letting yourself be led around?

I disagree with Twito saying that Akbar is probably scum. I think it's doubtful that we had two large, competing wagons that built up at the last minute of a deadline that both targeted scum.

[Battle Mage]

well despite my original opinion that SL looked scummy, TCS being on his wagon is ringing alarm bells in my head.
However, i dont think there is enough of a case on Fircoal either. All i will say is that people should be very wary about joining the wagon on SL. By my reckoning it is scum-filled, and i dont think a speed lynch here would be in our best interests.
BM

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Is softclaiming cop a scumtell?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

This is, of course, an academic question.

[spectrumvoid]

What is softclaiming? (I genuinely have never seen this word before.)

Okay, on the assumption that TCS knows what he's doing.

That's what my comment was referring to.

TCS: Satisfied with the clarification.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

What is softclaiming? (I genuinely have never seen this word before.)

Okay, on the assumption that TCS knows what he's doing.

That's what my comment was referring to.

TCS: Satisfied with the clarification.

Softclaiming is implying that you have knowledge or powers of a certain power role without actually formally claiming that you do.

[Lowell]

Is that directed at me?

For the record, that's not what I meant to do. I'm trusting TCS in this case because he's been right on the money about some things and his logic is generally pretty good. Any other conclusions you get from that are probably false.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Is that directed at me?

For the record, that's not what I meant to do. I'm trusting TCS in this case because he's been right on the money about some things and his logic is generally pretty good. Any other conclusions you get from that are probably false.

No, it's not directed at you at all. I'm only curious whether or not the more IC players in this game can make a generalization about whether or not softclaiming a role is more likely to be a sign of a genuine pro-town power role or scum. If it is the former, then I'll shut up about it; if it is the latter, I may have to change my vote. Until then, I'll be quiet about the specifics as I'd rather not out our cop, if he/she really is our cop.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

EBWOP: Of course, saying even that might give it away, but I think it's an important question to consider.

[spectrumvoid]

TCS: I'd like you to explain who you think is soft-claiming.

[spectrumvoid]

Eek. CPU error.

Not that I'm that much more IC, but I think soft-claiming is scum-tell. It outs the cop.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

TCS: I'd like you to explain who you think is soft-claiming.

Well, after the reread I just did my first piece of evidence seems less strong. When I first read this post:

because Lowell seems happy to go for Masterchief, i can assume he is not Mafia.
Therefore I change my vote to Lowell, in an attempt to save a citizen.

I thought that BM might have been insinuating that he knew MC's alignment. Assuming it was a scumtell, I voted for him. I changed my mind later, partially because I was afraid he might actually be cop. But after this post:

well despite my original opinion that SL looked scummy, TCS being on his wagon is ringing alarm bells in my head.
However, i dont think there is enough of a case on Fircoal either.

All i will say is that people should be very wary about joining the wagon on SL.

By my reckoning it is scum-filled, and i dont think a speed lynch here would be in our best interests.
BM

Emphasis: TCS

It seems to me that he is definitely implying that he knows SL is innocent. I'm not sure if this is a cop-tell or a mafia-tell. I'm leaning toward the latter. It's possible that the remaining scum are Battle Mage and Shadowlurker, and he might be trying to deflect. He might just be mafia unconsciously revealing town. Or, and this is why I was hesitant to post this outright, he might actually be our cop.

Of course, BM might have just said this because he considers the wagon to have scum on it, but I definitely get the vibe that he is implying knowledge of SL's innocence.

[Battle Mage]

actually, neither are correct, as my intention was solely to get across by belief that there was scum on SL's wagon. At the start of the day, SL was my prime candidate for a lynch considering his record, but the fact that you are on his wagon makes me very suspicious.
Not a cop tell, or a scumtell. Its a BM tell.

TCS: I'd like you to explain who you think is soft-claiming.

Well, after the reread I just did my first piece of evidence seems less strong. When I first read this post:

because Lowell seems happy to go for Masterchief, i can assume he is not Mafia.
Therefore I change my vote to Lowell, in an attempt to save a citizen.

I thought that BM might have been insinuating that he knew MC's alignment. Assuming it was a scumtell, I voted for him. I changed my mind later, partially because I was afraid he might actually be cop. But after this post:

well despite my original opinion that SL looked scummy, TCS being on his wagon is ringing alarm bells in my head.
However, i dont think there is enough of a case on Fircoal either.

All i will say is that people should be very wary about joining the wagon on SL.

By my reckoning it is scum-filled, and i dont think a speed lynch here would be in our best interests.
BM

Emphasis: TCS

It seems to me that he is definitely implying that he knows SL is innocent. I'm not sure if this is a cop-tell or a mafia-tell. I'm leaning toward the latter. It's possible that the remaining scum are Battle Mage and Shadowlurker, and he might be trying to deflect. He might just be mafia unconsciously revealing town. Or, and this is why I was hesitant to post this outright, he might actually be our cop.

Of course, BM might have just said this because he considers the wagon to have scum on it, but I definitely get the vibe that he is implying knowledge of SL's innocence.

[spectrumvoid]

Personally, I don't think what BM did was a soft-scum-tell. I also do not buy the reasons for SL at the moment.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Personally, I don't think what BM did was a soft-scum-tell. I also do not buy the reasons for SL at the moment.

What do you think?

[spectrumvoid]

What do I think what?

[Akbar]

Personally, I don't think what BM did was a soft-scum-tell. I also do not buy the reasons for SL at the moment.

What do you think?

What do I think what?

Gonna be a loooonnnngggg day………

[The Central Scrutinizer]

What do I think what?

Well, you've told us repeatedly what you

don't

think about this game. What

do

you think about it?

[Twito]

Sorry internet broke on Sunday and I've had a lot of stuff irl aswell. I'll be active and catch up when it's fixed.