Mercatores - week 8

[sprontalic]

/in as well

Also what do you mean by "better protected"? Is this against things like thievery that can happen etc?

Also if you have say 2 offices, a level 2 and a level 1, does this mean my total capacity is 22?

[sprontalic]

/confirm

Arabia please

EDIT: Can I change my mind to Gaeca please?

[sprontalic]

@ Raffle: Want to have a trading deal. I'll buy all your Timbers for 90 each.

@ Bird: Want to have a deal. I'll buy your slaves at 180 each.

[sprontalic]

I'll just take whatever stock you have until you stop selling/I stop buying. I'll let you know a week before I intend to stop buying.

[sprontalic]

Waiting for Sprontic to answer my question before I purchase anything.

However much you want. Same deal as Raffles basically.

[sprontalic]

Starting Totals - week 1.
10,000 coins

No goods
Total Goods: 0/20

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Buy Phase

2 grain from Roma (20)
4 Bricks from Roma (400)
4 Timber from Roma (400)
2 Marbles from Graeca (1400)
1 Olive Oil from Gaeca (6000)

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Subtotal after Buy Phase

1,780 coins

2 Grains
4 Bricks
4 Timber
2 Marbles
1 Olive Oil
Total Goods: 13/20

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Upgrade Phase

Upgrade Offices in Roma and Graeca to Level 1

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Subtotal after Buy Phase

1,780 coins

2 Grains
2 Marbles
1 Olive Oil
Total Goods: 5/24

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Trade Phase

**Offers**

Offer trade of 2 Marbles for 8 Slaves to HackerHuck

**Accepts**

Accepts trade of 8 timber from Raffles for 720 coins
Accept trade of 900 coins for 5 slaves from Bird

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Current Subtotal

160 coins
2 Grains
2 Marbles
5 Slaves
8 Timber
1 Olive Oil
Total Goods: 18/24

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Notes

@Raffles

: I don't think I'll buy anymore timber actually. If your offer still stands then I may came back for it, but that might not be in your best interest anyway.

[sprontalic]

@ Lawrencelot: Here are may accepts again with the trade numbers.

Trades

**Accepts**

Accepts trade of 8 timber from Raffles for 720 coins (Trade #103)
Accept trade of 900 coins for 5 slaves from Bird1111 (Trade #94)

Ok moving on.

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Current Subtotal

160 coins
2 Grains
13 Slaves
8 Timber
1 Olive Oil
Total Goods: 24/24

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Sell Phase

Sell 13 Slaves to Graeca for 3250 gold.
Sell 1 Olive Oil to Roma for 7000 gold.

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Subtotal after Sell phase

11,410 coins
2 Grains
8 Timber
Total Goods: 10/24

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Upkeep Phase

1 grain used from level 2 office in Roma
1 grain used from level 2 office in Graeca

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Weeks End Total

10,410 coins
8 Timber
Total Goods: 8/24

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Player Notes

@Sailor Jerry: Sure, sounds like a deal. I'll start trading you next week.
@Raffles: I'd like to buy 10 timbers off you for 90 coins each for next week, sound good?
@ Bird1111: Will you still be selling slave next week?

[sprontalic]

@Sailor Jerry: Still interested in buying my Olive Oil for 8000 coins? I can only supply you with one next week though.
@HackerHuckle: I should have enough money/space to make the trade. So we're still a go!

[sprontalic]

It's OK mate - I can get it from Rome

How about if I made it cheaper?

[sprontalic]

Starting Total - Week 2

10,410 coins
8 Timber
Total Goods: 8/24

Buy Phase

Buy 2 grains from Roma (20)
Buy 2 Timber from Roma (200)
Buy 10 Bricks from Roma (1000)
Upgrade Roma to level 3 office
Upgrade Gaeca to level 3 office
Buy 4 Marbles (2,600)

Mid Buy Phase Subtotal

6,590 coins
2 Grains
4 Marbles
Total Goods: 6/28

@Sailor Jerry: Would you buy my Olive Oils if I sold them to you for 7750 coins? We both make a bigger profit under this deal.

[sprontalic]

Trading slave would be the best for me as well, so do you want to just keep doing that for now?

[sprontalic]

Nah I can do 6 marbles

Mid Buy Phase Subtotal

6,590 coins
2 Grains
4 Marbles
Total Goods: 6/28

Buy Phase continued

Buy 2 Marbles from Graeca (1300)
Buy 2 Slaves from Roma (400)

Post-Buy Phase Subtotal

4,890 coins
2 Grains
6 Marbles
2 Slaves
Total Goods: 10/28

Trade Phase

Accept trade 201: 6 Marbles for 24 Slaves to HackerHuck

Post-Trade Phase Subtotal

4,890 coins
2 Grains
26 Slaves
Total Goods: 28/28

Sell Phase

Sell 26 slaves to Graeca (6500)

Office Upkeep Phase

Level 2 office in Roma takes 1 grain
Level 2 office in Graeca take 1 grain

End Week Total

Coins 11,390
Total Goods: 0/28

@HackerHuckle: Still want to do a marble for slaves trade next week?

[sprontalic]

I'm think the price change idea is ok. But they shouldn't be extremely significant, and some kinda of warning should be given. Like "Rome has successfully conquered X" would result in a reduction of slave prices in Rome. Or "Citizens of the world are indulging in luxuries" meaning a rise in one or more of the expensive commodities.

Also if you made it so that the amount of stocks withheld by the players between weeks have an impact on the prices (ie increased demand = increased price since some stocks were withheld from the economy). This would add an extra level of strategy to the game.

Nonetheless, I don't think it's such a good idea to change the game by this much now. If you're going to start adding variations such as this then we should start the game afresh. As SJ said, those that signed up to the game signed up to the rules you placed at the start, not the ones that you will eventually change it to.

I say we either change the prices and then leave them be and continue the game, or incorporate volatile prices but start the game afresh (so people can play their cards differently).

[sprontalic]

Nah i agree with Raffles. Once you get the 2 regions that then gives the best prices...theres no reason for you to trade with anyone else because you'll get the best price by trading with yourself anyway (unless someone is stupid enough to trade with a price that yields a loss).

[sprontalic]

One small question. How is this resolvable? (I had considered trading in slaves this week which is why I have held off completing my buy phase...

I know it doesn't matter "much", with the delays in everyone posting.

But posts 201 202 and 213 do not follow the rules.

Post 201 is a Trade offer where HH proposes a trade to spront.
This trade is accepted in 202 by Spront. Thus HH must clearly be in the trading phase and un-able to make any more purchases. Yet he goes and acquires goods in 213.
This is Especially problematic as Spront has already sold slaves in post 202 that HH didn't buy until 213.......... ?

True, but I figured that since I wasn't going to be doing anything else I'd just finish off all of my turns and do it all in one go. I know HH hadn't bought the slaves yet...but if I had followed the phases and everything then the only thing that would've changed was me breaking up my post. I couldn't be bothered waiting so I just did it all at once, assuming that HH would buy the slaves, offer the trade, then continue as if I'd accepted it.

[sprontalic]

Hacker, still up for the Slaves for Marble deal?

[sprontalic]

Ummm...Hacker?

[sprontalic]

Week Start Total

11390 coins
Total Goods: 0/28

Buy Phase/u]

Buy 10 Bricks from Roma (1000)
Buy 10 Timber from Roma (1000)
Buy 4 Iron from Roma (2000)
Buy 2 grains from Roma (20)
Upgrade Roma Office to Level 4
Upgrade Graeca Office to Level 4
Buy 7 marbles from Graeca
Buy 2 Slaves from Roma

Post-Buy Phase Subtotal

2,820 coins
2 Grains
7 Marbles
2 Slaves
Total Goods: 11/32

Trade Phase

Accept trade 260: 7 Marbles for 28 Slaves to HackerHuck

Post-Trade Phase Subtotal

2,820 coins
2 Grains
30 Slaves
Total Goods: 32/32

Sell Phase

Sell 30 slaves to Graeca (7800)

Office Upkeep Phase

Level 4 office in Roma takes 1 grain
Level 4 office in Graeca take 1 grain

End Week Total

Coins 10,620
Total Goods: 0/32

[sprontalic]

Oh formatting error...whoops. Mind if I fix it Lawrencelot?

[sprontalic]

How much are we trading this time hacker?

[sprontalic]

Week Start Total

10,620 coins
Total Goods: 0/32

Buy Phase

Buy 2 grains from Roma (20)
Buy 7 marbles from Graeca (4,550)
Buy 1 Olive Oil from Graeca (6,000)

Post-Buy Phase Subtotal

50 coins
2 Grains
7 Marbles
1 Olive Oil
Total Goods: 10/32

Trade Phase

Offer: 7 Marbles for 28 Slaves to HackerHuck

[sprontalic]

Post Trade Phase Subtotal

50 coins
2 Grains
28 Slaves
1 Olive Oil
Total Goods: 31/32

Sell Phase[/b]

Sell 28 Slaves to Graeca (7000)
Sell 1 Olive Oil to Roma (7000)

Post Sell Phase Subtotal

14,050 coins
2 Grains
Total Goods: 2/32

Upkeep Phase

Level 4 Office Roma takes 1 grain
Level 4 Office Graeca takes 1 grain

Weeks end total

14,050 coins
Total Goods: 0/32

[sprontalic]

Uh I'm really confused. Should I just start with my stats from the front page?

[sprontalic]

sprontalic, you willing to trade 1720 coins for 8 slaves?

No thanks. I can get 8 slaves from Roma for 1600 coins.

[sprontalic]

Whoops, how about 1520 instead?

No thanks. With my current trade with Hacker, I'm basically buying slaves for 1300/8 slaves. Also I'll need 20 slaves as opposed to 8 if I want to get the best profit for myself.

@Hacker: Can we do 5 marble trades for 20 slaves instead of 7 for 28 this time?

[sprontalic]

Week Start Total

15270 coins
2 Grain
Total Goods: 2/32

Buy Phase

Buy 4 grains from Roma (20)
Buy 6 marbles from Graeca (4,550)
Buy 1 Olive Oil from Graeca (6,000)
Buy 1 Slave from Roma (200)

Post-Buy Phase Subtotal

4,500 coins
6 Grains
6 Marbles
1 Olive Oil
1 Slave
Total Goods: 14/32

Trade Phase

Offer: 6 Marbles for 28 Slaves to HackerHuck

[sprontalic]

Damn I messed it up again.

Those are the actions that I want to take for this week.

[sprontalic]

Uh sorry...I just did a copy and post and I forgot to change the second bit.

Withdraw trade 301
Offer 6 Marbles for 24 Slaves to Hackerhuck

As much as I would like 28 slaves, I'd be biting off more than I can chew with that one

[sprontalic]

Week Start Total

5130 coins
6 marble
1 olive oil
1 slave
Total Goods: 8/28

Buy Phase

Buy 6 grains from Roma (60)
5 Timber from Roma (500)
5 Bricks from Roma (500)
2 Iron from Roma (1000)
Upgrade Roma office to level 4
5 Timber from Roma (500)
5 Bricks from Roma (500)
2 Iron from Roma (1000)
Upgrade Graeca office to level 4

Post-Buy Phase Subtotal

70 coins
6 Grains
6 Marbles
1 Olive Oil
1 Slave
Total Goods: 14/32

Trade Phase

Offer 6 Marbles for 24 Slaves to Hackerhuck

[sprontalic]

I think we lost a whole week of data...do you have a record of it Lawrencelot?

[sprontalic]

@Hacker: If you don't accept my deal tomorrow, I'm going to just trade myself this week without you.

[sprontalic]

Oh that really sucks