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Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:24 pm

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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:36 pm

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Can you upgrade an office multiple levels a week?

Independednt of the last question, is the upgrade resources cumulutive or one-off?
(i.e. from going from level 1 to 3, is it 7 timbers or 5timbers? Going from level 2 to 3, is it 5 timbers or 3 timbers?)

(Can I shotgun Asia? I'm a Jap...)
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Post Post #18 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:29 am

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Isn't it a good idea to numerically code each trade? So instead of
Trade 1 timber for 85 coins with Lawrencelot


It should be
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Trade No. 231: 1 timber for 85 coins with Lawrencelot


So that the other trader can
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Trade No. 231: Accepted
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Post Post #23 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:27 am

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/confirm, and I'll nab the biggest region, Asia. Bwahaha
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Post Post #30 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:46 pm

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Do the exchange rate change every week?
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Post Post #33 (isolation #5) » Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:40 am

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Can you trade goods with goods?

Are the trasactions instantaneous? i.e. Asia buys slaves from Brittania. Does it arrive in asia instantaneously or do I have to wait a turn for the resource to arrive?

If you want to upgrade an office, do you have to have the required resource in your province? If so, I can see this is going to be a problem later where we can't physically occupy the resource in that province to upgrade to the next level.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #6) » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:13 am

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I think we should all make a request list of things you want to buy once the game starts. Your wine idea is very good.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #7) » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:37 am

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I got another question. Can't you essentially keep trading with yourself to make infinite money?
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Post Post #50 (isolation #8) » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:43 am

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Suppose you own Graecea and Alpes. Then follow these steps.

1: Buy wine in Graecea (9000G)
2: Sell wine in Alpes (12000G)
3: Repeat these step n times.

Then your total profit would be 3000(n+1)G depending on how many times you care to trade with yourself.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #9) » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:53 am

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So you can't keep investing using the profit that you made in the same turn?
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Post Post #55 (isolation #10) » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:13 am

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Looking to buy


4 Bricks @ 75 each
1 Olve oil @ 6200


Looking to sell


Timbers @ 90 each
Marble @ 790 each
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Post Post #58 (isolation #11) » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:33 am

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I don't think anyone is buying gems at this stage... :lol:
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Post Post #60 (isolation #12) » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:15 pm

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Yea but... you can't buy it in the first place to sell anyway.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:55 pm

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80 for a brick?

Sprotanic: Good deal. Tell me the number and I'll buy as much as I can within reasonable limit of my stock.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:31 pm

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Is upgrading an office instantaneous or takes a week?

i.e.
Upgrade opffice: Roma


Do I now have 12 capacity or do I have to wait until end of the week?
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Post Post #100 (isolation #15) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:48 am

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pre-post status
start week 1.
10,000 coins
2 lvl 1s= 20 cap.
no total goods

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Buy 4 grain from Asia @8ea. = 32 coins -(32 coins spent)
Buy 12 Timber from Asia @70ea. = 840 coins -(840 coins spent)


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post post status
buying phase week 1
9128 coins
2 lvl 1s= 20 cap
4 grain
12 timber
16 total goods

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Trade Offers (witheld for the moment, will be coming up soon).

Any offer for Olive oil @ 9100?
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Post Post #103 (isolation #16) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:09 pm

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Trade Offers

Offer to buy 4 bricks from Mad Jackal for 80each
Offer to sell 8 Timber to Sprontalic for 90 each
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Post Post #118 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:53 am

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Mad Jackal - I don't have anymore timber to sell... sorry
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Post Post #131 (isolation #18) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:23 am

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Mad Jackal - scratch that. I don't wish to buy bricks anymore.

4 Timbers going up for sale. Asking price: 95 a piece.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #19) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:31 am

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Mad Jackal changed my mind again, I'll do you your deal...
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Post Post #137 (isolation #20) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:54 am

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My timber is now off the market.

Offer to buy Mad Jackal's 4 bricks for 350 coins
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Post Post #144 (isolation #21) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:29 pm

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Upgrade Office Roma (lvl2)
Upgrade Office Asia (lvl 2)
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Post Post #151 (isolation #22) » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:04 am

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I want to know the interest level for Timber next week. Going at 90 each.

I'm also willing to buy further 4 bricks.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #23) » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:10 am

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90 is steep? Hey cmon, have mercy. This is about the only thing I can sell and I gotta make every coin I can make to keep up. :(
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Post Post #179 (isolation #24) » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:11 pm

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Buy 10 Timbers from Asia @ 65coins each
But 10 Bricks from Asia @ 100 coins each

Upgrade Roma/Asia Office lvl 3

Buy 24 Timber from Asia @ 65 coins each


all going up for sale. Lowest bid: 85 coins. Ask for: 95coins

6288 coins left.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #25) » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:56 am

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Sorry, I'm not interested in bricks anymore seeing as I can make more money out of selling timber rather than bricks. Plus I've already upgraded anyway.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #26) » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:43 am

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My offer for timber terminates on thursday.
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Post Post #207 (isolation #27) » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:18 am

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I have a problem with this.

The value changes every week, yes, this would make a game fairer. But I see a few problems.

For example, I have full capacity on timber at this moment. But I might not choose to sell it this week, but timber price has decreased since yesterday. But if I do this, I can't buy anything next week. So it is unadvisable.

I have thought of all possible solutions, and I'll explain why some will not work.

1. Scrap phase system

This will fail, for the reasons discussed previously. (Keep buying from your region then keep selling it to rome/vice versa, making you infinitely rich.

2. Scrap Rome, and limit people to one region.

A long term solution, and it is closer to a classic trading game. A drawback is it is quite a radical change to the rules, and the game itself.

3. Bite the bullet, but increase all the maximum capacity to feasible levels.

Increase the capacity because you'll need to have space later on in the game. I haven't considered all the factors in this one so it could be flawed.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #28) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:54 am

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Thing about this game is if you get a decent region, then you don't trade with other people. That would be helping others to get richer, and if you are winning, it is not in your interest to do so.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #29) » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:58 am

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No one is doing it right now, because the game hasn't progressed anywhere far enough. If your regions are such that you can trade with maximum profit, then why bother trading with anyone else? Trading will only help those who are less well off, and that is not in your interest if you are winning.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:13 am

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Sell 24 Timber to Rome @ 80 each
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Post Post #253 (isolation #31) » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:24 am

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Okay everyone. I'm going to be out of this game. But I'm going to do something fun.

I'm going to sell the office and region to the highest bidder. My rome office is going to be destroyed. And then I'm going to redistribute my wealth to the people who didn't win Asia in the auction.

Here's how it works.

Bidding starts
Highest bidder wins the region, office. Bidders have 24hrs to make their bid after the previous one.
Once the winner is decided, I will distribute what wealth I have.
Finally, I make the transaction with the winner of the region.

Bidding starts now.
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Post Post #265 (isolation #32) » Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:08 am

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Bidding is now closed with Mad Jackal offering 2000 coins.

Buy 1 grain from Asia

Accept 2000 coins from Mad Jackal

Give 2040 coins to:
HackerHuck
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Cogito Ergo Sum
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Give to Mad Jackal:
Region Control - Asia
Office Control - Asia (containing 1 grain)
2 coins


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