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Post Post #20 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:21 am

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Post Post #86 (isolation #1) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:07 am

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/confirm as afrika.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:41 pm

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Do capacity limits take place at the end of the week? I mean, with my 20 capacity from two offices, can I have 20 resources plus the 4 resources to upgrade an office, plus the two grain to maintain my offices? Or could I purchase 100 units of something provided I trade it away by the end of the week?

I was going to use Excel to maintain my trades. Is it possible to get your tables in a text format so I don't have to retype everything into Excel?

Also, can my buying phase last more than one post, provided I haven't started the trading or selling phases yet?
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Post Post #106 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:58 pm

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One final capacity/phase question:
Is this how things work:
begin buy phase - two lvl 1 for 20 capacity.
buy 4 timber and 4 brick - unused capacity is 12
upgrade both offices to lvl2 - 8 resources consumed and 4 additional capacity added from upgrade. Unused capacity is now 24.
Buy 24 whatever - Unused capacity is 0.
Trade phase begins, with no unused capacity, I may not get more resources than I give.
Sell phase where I unload all remaining resources except the 2 grain needed to maintain my offices.
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Post Post #117 (isolation #4) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:32 am

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Lawrencelot - I have a ten-key for my laptop, so I was able to get those tables into excel. Don't worry about saving it elsewhere for me.

Buy:
Resource office qty price total
Bricks Afrika 4 80 320
Timber Roma 4 100 400
Total Spend 720
Available Coins 9280
Available Capacity 12

Upgrade:
Afrika Lvl2 New Capacity 12
Roma Lvl2 New Capacity 12

Available Capacity 24

Buy:
Resource office qty price total
Marble Roma 10 800 8000
Slaves Afrika 9 140 1260
Grain Afrika 2 7 14

Inventory:
Resource qty
Marble 10
Slaves 9
Grain 2

New Spend 9274
Available Coins 6
Available Capacity 3
End Buy Phase


Accept Trade #110 - 8 Slaves to sprontalic for 2 Marble


Inventory:
Resource qty
Marble 12
Slaves 1
Grain 2

Total Spend 0
Available Coins 6
Available Capacity 8

If anyone likes the illicit slave trade, I will offer up my last slave for 2 timber or 3 brick or 190 coins.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #5) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:44 am

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logicticus wrote:HH, I'll trade you 2 timber for the slave
Accept trade 119 - 2 Timber from Logicticus for 1 slave


Inventory:
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Marble 12
Timber 2
Grain 2

Available Capacity 8

Sell:
Resource qty price total
Marble 12 850 10200


Final Inventory:
Resource qty
Timber 2
Grain 2

Revenue 10200
Available Coins 10206
Available Capacity 20

I'm done for the week!
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I would appreciate it if the trade values for Afrika's "High-end" goods could be evaluated. In every case, that regions buy price is the same or higher than Roma and the sell price is also either the same or lower than Roma.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #6) » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:04 am

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@Sprontalic: For next week, I would again be interested in the slave for marble trade at 4:1 up to 20 total slaves.
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Post Post #192 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:57 am

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I'm trying to guage the interest for my slaves before I buy anything.

Preferred trade - 24 slaves to Sprontic for 6 marble

Second best - 19 slaves to CES for 8 bricks

Others may make me offers as well.


I think the olive oil and wine spreads are a bit oversized with respect to Rome. We've got a few people who can sit back and trade one unit each turn to Rome and net at least 2k. I can't get close to that much in profit during a turn unless I can get someone to make a very unbalanced trade with me.
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Post Post #201 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:18 pm

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sprontalic wrote:Trading slave would be the best for me as well, so do you want to just keep doing that for now?
If you're referring to my preferred offer, I'm agreeable if you are willing to take all 24 slaves for 6 marble. Otherwise I would rather trade with CES.

Offer 24 slaves to sprontalic for 6 marble


Please let me know soon if you don't plan to accept so I can make a trade with CES.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #9) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:34 pm

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Before I make my purchases, I'll weigh in on the pricing issue. I think the biggest issue is that the intent of the game is to trade with others, otherwise it's simply about winning the lottery to pick the site with the most favorable trade route to Roma. Now, I don't think that all prices should be so volatile as to change each week. Some kind of random event that impacts prices - bad storms in Roma wipe out olive groves or bandits attack your caravan confiscating goods/ransom or even some regions assess tariffs on others. The risk could be announced ahead of time or kept entirely random. I do think that without
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volatility, there is a risk that the game gets stale - everyone making the same trades week after week.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #10) » Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:00 pm

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Week 2
Capacity 24
lvl2 Roma 12
lvl2 Afrika 12

Inventory:
Timber 2

Coins:
10206

Buying
Resource office qty price total
Bricks Afrika 10 80 800
Timber Roma 8 100 800

Total Spend 1600
Inventory:
Resource qty
Bricks 10
Timber 10

Remaining Capacity 4
Remaining Coins 8606

Upgrade:
Afrika Lvl3 New Capacity 14
Roma Lvl3 New Capacity 14

Remaining Capacity 28
Remaining Coins 8606

Buying:
Resource office qty price total
Slaves Afrika 26 140 3640
Grain Afrika 2 7 14
Total Spend 3654


Inventory:
Resource qty
Slaves 26
Grain 2

Remaining Capacity 0
Remaining Coins 2048

End Buy Phase

Trade #201 - 24 Slaves to Sprontalic for 6 Marble


Inventory:
Resource qty
Slaves 2
Grain 2
Marble 6

Remaining Capacity 18
Remaining Coins 2048

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Anyone want a couple of slaves? I'll be shopping them tomorrow.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #11) » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:03 am

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Yeah, that was entirely my fault. I made an offer before I had the goods when I should have just had Sprontalic make me the offer and I could accept after I had bought.
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Post Post #231 (isolation #12) » Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:50 am

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I need to make a correction to my last buying phase post. I started this week with 10,206 coins. I purchased 1,600 coins worth of goods, leaving me with 8,606 coins. My next purchase used 3,654 coins, which would leave me with 4,952 coins, not the 2,048 indicated in my post.

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Inventory:
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Slaves 2
Grain 2
Marble 6

Remaining Capacity 18
Remaining Coins 4952


Sell:
Resource office qty price total
Marble Afrika 6 850 5100
Slaves Roma 2 180 360
Net Proceeds 5460

Inventory:
Resource qty
Grain 2

Remaining Capacity 26
Remaining Coins 10412
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Post Post #260 (isolation #13) » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:47 am

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sprontalic wrote:Ummm...Hacker?
Sorry, I lost access this week, but I'm still up for the trade. I'll be buying 28 slaves to trade for 7 Marble.


Begin buy phase:
Coins available 10,412

Buy:
Resource office qty price total
Bricks Afrika 10 80 800
Timber Roma 10 100 1000
Iron Roma 4 500 2000

Total Spend 3800

Coins available 6,612

Upgrade:
Afrika lvl4
Roma lvl4

Buy:
Resource office qty price total
Slaves Afrika 28 140 3920
Marble Roma 2 800 1600
Grain Afrika 2 7 14

Total Spend 5534
Remaining Coins 1,078

Trade 28 Slaves to Sprontic for 7 Marble
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Post Post #262 (isolation #14) » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:50 pm

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Sell:
Resource office qty price total
Marble Afrika 9 1000 9000

Available Coins 10,078
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Post Post #274 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:00 am

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Lawrencelot wrote:HackerHuck made an error to his advantage in post 260 (and 262).
What was my error, my coin total seems to be the same?
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Post Post #280 (isolation #16) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:12 am

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sprontalic wrote:How much are we trading this time hacker?
It's no longer cost effective for me to increase my storage capacity, so let's keep it at 28 slaves for 7 marble if that's still OK with you.
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Post Post #282 (isolation #17) » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:18 am

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Week Start Total
12,218 coins
Total Goods: 0/32

Buying:
Resource office qty price total
Slaves Afrika 28 140 3920
Marble Roma 2 800 1600
Grain Afrika 2 7 14
Total Spend 5534

Remaining Coins: 6,684

Accept Trade 281: 28 Slaves to Sprontalic for 7 Marble

Inventory:
Marble 9
Grain 2


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I think that the offering to Ceres is an incredible steal!

Not only do you get the equivalent of at least two grain for only five coins, it also gives you the benefit of not holding that grain in your inventory.

I think it should be at least 40 or 50 coins.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #18) » Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:40 am

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Sell 9 Marble to Afrika @ 1000 ea.


Total sales - 9000
Available coins - 15,684
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Post Post #299 (isolation #19) » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:17 am

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sprontalic wrote:
bird1111 wrote:Whoops, how about 1520 instead?
No thanks. With my current trade with Hacker, I'm basically buying slaves for 1300/8 slaves. Also I'll need 20 slaves as opposed to 8 if I want to get the best profit for myself.

@Hacker: Can we do 5 marble trades for 20 slaves instead of 7 for 28 this time?
I would of course prefer the largest trade possible (28:7) but if you need to back off of it, I can't really say no.

Given the nature of the weeklong game phase, it might be better to have the myth powers start the following week. That way we can plan around them a little bit. If I were to buy the power that messed with prices in Roma, it would make things very messy this round.
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Post Post #303 (isolation #20) » Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:25 pm

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Changing the deal? We were going on 4:1, so that would be 24 Slaves for 6 Marble.

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