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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:19 am

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I really hope this kills the Korean hype train. The Korean teams looked good, but they certainly weren't dominating. In fact, a Korean team has not won the early game yet. I think they've been extremely over-rated while the other regions have been under rated.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:24 am

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But that is what makes the Korean teams scary, they may not need to win early games.

It's one of the things that made Cloud 9's LCS run so impressive. Even if they weren't winning the first 10-15 minutes, their mid game (and team-planning) was impressive enough that they could win games despite digging themselves holes. Of course they didn't dig holes that often, but the ability to play from behind is something that (imo) the NA and EU teams lack, relative to the Asian scene. I'm interested to see how it plays out later.

Another thing to keep in mind, theoretically these are the 3,4 Korean teams playing against the 1-3s from other regions.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:49 am

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In post 325, Bub Bidderskins wrote:I really hope this kills the Korean hype train. The Korean teams looked good, but they certainly weren't dominating. In fact, a Korean team has not won the early game yet. I think they've been extremely over-rated while the other regions have been under rated.
From what I've seen, they aren't really overhyped. Gambit closing out an early lead does not make the papers anymore. For all the things they do wrong in games now and then, that's what makes them a good team. Mechanically, what we've seen from the eastern teams has been stunning at times though. And the games where they won it felt like it was inevitable. That's impressive.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:47 am

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I'm not sure if we both saw the same hype. From what I heard, Korea would dominated everybody and NA and EU both sucked (especially NA). Korea has not dominated a single game. In fact, Gambit and OMG dominated
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:59 am

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One of the Asian WCS players is in my aram right now, lol.

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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:33 pm

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In post 328, Bub Bidderskins wrote:I'm not sure if we both saw the same hype. From what I heard, Korea would dominated everybody and NA and EU both sucked (especially NA). Korea has not dominated a single game. In fact, Gambit and OMG dominated
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I'm not even sure we watched the same games, considering what happened in both Mineski games and both GG.EU games.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:37 pm

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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:40 pm

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In post 330, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 328, Bub Bidderskins wrote:I'm not sure if we both saw the same hype. From what I heard, Korea would dominated everybody and NA and EU both sucked (especially NA). Korea has not dominated a single game. In fact, Gambit and OMG dominated
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I'm not even sure we watched the same games, considering what happened in both Mineski games and both GG.EU games.
I will grant you that GG got stomped harder than Fnatic did, but Vulcun beat Fnatic a lot harder than Gambit beat Mineski. Mineski even had an earlier lead (albeit a very small one). At no point was Fnatic ever ahead in the game against Vulcun.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:54 pm

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Fnatic stomped Mineski. If you saw the interviews with Mineski and Gambit, Minseki was basically asking Gambit to sign autographs. I can't help thinking the Russians, while not "playing to lose" might not have gone 100% that game. There's a point of stomping where it's almost BM.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:08 pm

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In post 332, Bub Bidderskins wrote:
In post 330, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 328, Bub Bidderskins wrote:I'm not sure if we both saw the same hype. From what I heard, Korea would dominated everybody and NA and EU both sucked (especially NA). Korea has not dominated a single game. In fact, Gambit and OMG dominated
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I'm not even sure we watched the same games, considering what happened in both Mineski games and both GG.EU games.
I will grant you that GG got stomped harder than Fnatic did, but Vulcun beat Fnatic a lot harder than Gambit beat Mineski. Mineski even had an earlier lead (albeit a very small one). At no point was Fnatic ever ahead in the game against Vulcun.

Did you even watch the Fnatic v. Mineski game?

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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:14 pm

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Yeahhhhh Fnatic's game versus Mineski was the most complete obliteration I've ever seen. They would've won in less than 20 minutes if they hadn't run in circles for about 10 minutes.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:28 pm

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I didn't see that game, but I heard that Fnatic was fucking around. Point rescinded.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:46 pm

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why is Mineski playing so terribly
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:51 pm

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Because Mineski are tactically, creatively and mechanically deficient relative to the best of established leagues.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:51 pm

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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:05 pm

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i have to say, i'm impressed with the production values so far, knowing that they'll go up for the semis and finals.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:18 pm

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Riot's had a decent amount of practice at this point. There are still some bugs to work out, but it's come leaps and bounds from last year's World Championships.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:31 pm

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Like, when they cancelled them because they didn't have a LAN client and the internet at the arena went out!
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:37 pm

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Also, when they held the competition out doors! without proper shade for the computer screens! and the gigantic minimap screens they put up were visible by the opposing teams!
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:04 pm

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xmithie makin some poooooooor choices
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:04 pm

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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:08 pm

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vulcan got rekt
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:11 pm

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so wait. there are three more of these? I know they're on the west coast, but come on!
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:12 pm

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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:14 pm

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They don't start til 7 PM pacific, and they're doing 5 games per night.

Guessing it has to do with Asian audiecnes.
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