NY 166: Knight-Errant 18p - Game Over!

[Marquis]

Someone's got to be the opening bandwagon.

might as well be scum no?

<marquis>

[Marquis]

me too u butthed

[Marquis]

you guys wanna hear my big dirty secret??????

I really want to lynch Fegelein today but I'm worried about possibly losing a strong town asset
that and I don't think the wagon would achieve a lynch

<marquis>

Eh I'd generally be for that lynch if I hadn't meta checked him.

i'm just against his current read now, and I honestly think that SV is scum and should be lynched out today.

If you meta checked him, can you actually show us your results? All this says to me is "I'm going to make myself look town by saying I meta checked someone after people kept saying in the thread that ER's meta check was super town"

Feeling like I'm going to die tonight regardless of the lynch. Bring it on.

[Marquis]

also fuck the hydra kyucumber never posts anyway

[Marquis]

I feel like I'm going to die because I feel like I'm going to die.

[Marquis]

also fuck the hydra kyucumber never posts anyway

[Marquis]

easier to post like this on my phone anyway

[Marquis]

true, because scum always wants to stand out from the crowd by not even bothering to feign critical thinking

[Marquis]

in other words your "scumtells" for notscience are null at best

[Marquis]

vote Katarina or vote SV, preferably the former.

there are no other major wagons, and trying to reach a compromise on a lynch that both town

and

scum will agree with is even worse.

[Marquis]

I agree meeps is scum but that can wait for tomorrow because I really want a Kat flip right now

[Marquis]

I hate HD posting so much after hammer at day end but being so shitty at everything else

POAMT Set 2 bitch. also mafiascum content

[Marquis]

evil regals is town

Please do not fish me. I will summon Captain Hook on you and put you on a boat and send you to evil Neverland.

I want to call you town for having good taste in shows.

I really really do.

Yet I don't have a townread on you. It's not even that you feel scummy, it's just that I don't feel any town from you.

also on the hd case this was a pretty hard flipflop

he needs more votes.

<screw the hydra i'm lazy>

[Marquis]

WHY DO PEOPLE CONTINUE TO IGNORE PEOPLE

[Marquis]

meeps is probably scum but i'm concerned by the number of people being ignored just because they don't post. if people haven't noticed, pv lurked hard, barely posted, got limited pressure, and he only flipped mafia due to the sk kill otherwise he'd just have been ignored.

case in point human destroyer who imo is scum not for today when v/la of course but for day 1

[Marquis]

Lol.

[Marquis]

Marquis I can agree to an extent but potentially you're saying that because of the scumread on hd as opposed to people are generally being ignored. Is there anyone else you think is being ignored like hd + as a result that is a major issue?

for a while it's also been oriole and kx. personally i didn't even know oriole was in this game before they posted like last page

also my scumread on hd isn't just lurking and lurking for a while after v/la ended, it's the massive unexplained flipflop in these posts

evil regals is town

Please do not fish me. I will summon Captain Hook on you and put you on a boat and send you to evil Neverland.

I want to call you town for having good taste in shows.

I really really do.

Yet I don't have a townread on you. It's not even that you feel scummy, it's just that I don't feel any town from you.

like... what is this please

beast lynch is a shitty bandwagon even if his word choice is super duper scummy. not sure if scum or just weird

also evil regals i'm not sure what to make of you ignoring the serial killer as 5th scum

[Marquis]

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

Why the hell did you claim?

This is stupid. Would you really like to know why he claimed? Because if he's telling the truth, he is the

(CLAIMED) 3-SHOT COMMUTER

who due to certain people just barely and randomly popping in and tossing votes on him

IS AT L-1

with 7 votes while the next biggest wagon is meeps' with 2 votes.

[Marquis]

I just looked over the setup possibilities board and:

At the moment, I am inclined to believe his because being at the edge of the setup possibilities board, it's not an ideal PR-claim-as-scum. In my opinion, scum claiming Town 3-Shot Commuter is silly

because it gives a chance for more real Town PRs to counterclaim

. Not including the duplicate same-role counterclaims/contradictions, here is the possible counterclaims list:

Scum-Beast claiming 3-shot Commuter:

any Town Tracker, Town Doctor, or Town Roleblocker will know for sure that he is lying.

Scum-Beast claiming Town Bulletproof:

no PRs will know for sure that he is lying.

Beast doesn't strike me as the type of player who as scum would just recklessly claim without thinking about the possible consequences. The way I see it, this is an honest claim and Beast's earlier scummy diction was just a result of him being normally weird as hell. Also, anyone willing to risk lynching a PR claim like this in the midst of Day 2 without any viable existing counterclaims so far isn't being pro-town at all.

Now I'm okay with a meeps lynch because of meta differences I've seen from some of the offsite links posted, but I'm not going to just settle for it when the day's nowhere near the end, and when we haven't even heard anything useful from many inactive and V/LA people. Take him off L-1 for now and keep the day going, please. :/

[Marquis]

lol i tried so hard in those posts now scum cant say "i didnt know he was at l1 oops shit" bitch pls

in hindsight this wagon is horrid

i also hate wifom which could be totally applicable to my argument but i will punch you in the face if you try to invalidate any serious shit with "lol but wifom"

[Marquis]

lol foiled fakehammer for towncred attempt

[Marquis]

as i've seen before yes but it doesn't mean i can't get butthurt over it every single time

[Marquis]

kx why are you suddenly useful i hate that

[Marquis]

I want to call certain people out as scum but I'm pretty sure most of them are too new to have grasped the concept of a fakehammer yet

[Marquis]

can we lynch SV first and if he flips anything aside from scum lynch Beast?

what the actual fuck

[Marquis]

eddie is scum because he still refers to conc and because omgus... he sucks, stupid "gut" scumreads

[Marquis]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: KX

Yeah KX is scum, his last few posts and attacks on SV have all been shit. He's also overexplaining himself in areas that I personally do as scum and have often seen scum doing- for example, before simply defending MS he takes the time to pretty much unnecessarily count out his own hypocrisy on notsci with pretty much "now before I go on let me say that while notsci is doing the same thing as this townread except being more helpful I think he's scum because gut" ...like. I really hate when people just go "because gut" (example: eddie) because it allows for scum to throw out town sounding reads without fully committing to any reasoning that takes genuine town motivation to write up and that could be read into later on.

I really think we have a newbie-centric, Day-1-lurking-scum game going on here. PV, HD, KX. I am set on HD and KX being very likely scum together with the nature of PV's flip giving a bit more insight to possible scum behaviors, and I will look at their interactions later on.

[Marquis]

I was referring to scum finding it easy to lurk amongst scummy and certain unfocused newbies

Also that @ KX saying he'd make a case against notsci but then just deciding to explain it as a gut decision? kinda shows there wasn't any real reasoning in the first place except "oh notsci is an easy scumread nobody will find it suspicious if I say it"

[Marquis]

Serious question @Marquis: do you

have

to call me scum in every single game we play? It is actually annoying as fuck.

Do

you

have to try to discredit me by victimizing yourself? Because in all honesty,

that

is what's "annoying as fuck".

and heyheyhey

guess what

we've only played one game together, in which YOU had a scumread on ME! I know, amazing, right!?

I really think we have a newbie-centric, Day-1-lurking-scum game going on here. PV, HD, KX. I am set on HD and KX being very likely scum together with the nature of PV's flip giving a bit more insight to possible scum behaviors, and I will look at their interactions later on.

dafuq is this supposed to be

a post in which I attempted to explain my reads rather than just shitting on everything I see or saying "it doesn't matter, I'll do it later"

at the very least me calling you out as scum got you to actually post more and give opinions of things, right? even if what you're doing is saying mean things about really easy things... could you explain who you think is actually scum; since I'm apparently attacking you for being yourself, show me something real that actually doesn't tickle all my scum sensors? Pretty please with a cherry on top? Thanks girl, you rock <3

[Marquis]

actually

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Human Destroyer

let's go back to this

[Marquis]

thank you

[Marquis]

I think notsci is town because this matches a lot of his town meta that I know

also because I really want him to be town or I'll be sad

not sure if I want to lynch HD today or tomorrow now that certain people are actually voting him. I'm confident HD is scum, but idk about Rose and the vote reasoning

[Marquis]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: oriole

[Marquis]

me too

[Marquis]

I don't think I want to lynch HD anymore but he's been super scummy I guess? Idk I pushed his lynch and suddenly a bunch of people are jumping on it and the excuse "not enough time" doesn't always cut it

Might not have comp access for a while, using phone

[Marquis]

HD is at L-2, we have 8 hours left

[Marquis]

i mean ones that make sense

[Marquis]

26 minutes come on

[Marquis]

whatever just lynch hd he seems suddenly town now but whatever whatever

UNVOTE:
VOTE: HD

fun fact i didn't actually intend for hd to get lynched or wanted to lynch him

[Marquis]

KX's end of day play reeked of scum bussing its partner for "we need a lynch" towncred. And nothing else he has done has been incredibly pro-town either.

Follow me, please.

VOTE: KX

[Marquis]

KX "the actual fuck" is that your AtE not only looks and sounds like HD's "that's not fair Marquis!" scumplay yesterday, but that the fact that you're neglecting to mention how when I called you helpful it was because you suddenly started becoming helpful at the most opportunistic time. Also I was essentially right about HD's scumplay, and the same play (although worse) applies to you as well.

Evil Regals, explain any scumreads other than me, please.

PEDIT: lol redirecting, try to focus now, scum. NS doesn't need a defense for yourself as much as you do. And cut out the fake "righteous fury" bs when you actually give a good one.

PEDIT2: MS who is Masin? And there are 2 town PRs, who haven't been lynched or killed yet. I can't make heads or tails of you rn.

[Marquis]

Ok fine I believe MS.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Beast

We'll just have to vote KX tomorrow, folks. Don't lynch Beast until everybody posts and I can figure out who KX is with.

[Marquis]

lol

KX is scum

But with who

KX ruling out that Beast could be SK lol.

I'm not going to respond to your other statements right now because it's 3 AM and because there's not much I can do when someone decides to be a butthead in addition to being scum

(also stop talking about NS unfairly discrediting you when you're pretty much discrediting me in a worse way. If you really are town thinking he's scum then why the hell does him getting his logic right matter and why do you so badly want him to townread you??)

[Marquis]

KX your defense is bad and you should feel bad. All of that is scum motivated reasonimg and while I can't point out much on a phone, your tone and attitude toward other players are way off.

[Marquis]

VOTE: KX

obvious scum.

[Marquis]

UNVOTE:

no me

[Marquis]

Mason should claim now so we have 2 conftowns, one of which who is indestructible (assuming KX is SK who hasn't used the strongman yet).

Also looking at the setup possibilities list, we have a flipped Mafia BP, Mafia RB, and unCCed Town BP so the last PR is a Cop. If Cop has enough clears, they should claim and reveal now too so we can get a good townblock confirmed.

Lynch KX today, but I want to hammer, so other people go first.

[Marquis]

hammering is fun and you are scum

two birds with one stone!

[Marquis]

beast had no reason to lie after being hammered, you must be sk or were doc'ed which i doubt. his scumplay was bad which leads me to believe he was telling the truth

your pre-hd-hammer behavior was scummy as hell too, and end of day 2 all of your posts looked and sounded incredibly forced, sticking around simply for towncred. the fact that you were asking scumhunting-sounding questions means nothing since sk needs to do that too, and your scumslips lie in how your attacks on notsci grow progressively weaker because you're still "scumreading" him for the sake of trying to show consistency, and the fact that you're not already voting him with muffin's vote on him too makes no sense.

hint: if you scumread notscience, vote him. that's what i'm doing with you, except notsci and i are caught in a perpetual battle for the hammer which is really annoying but i srsly want it

p.s. you also pretty much confessed but now that there's subs which may not want to lynch you, you're trying to play it off as town giving up/sarcasm.

we're lynching you. and i want the hammer

[Marquis]

just lynch it now so we have the irl days carry over to when we actually need them

[Marquis]

Hai.

Just glancing at the last page, I see KX and notscience accusing each other of being scum, but neither is voting the other. What's up with that?

Guess some reading is required.

town af, super town

[Marquis]

vote kx, please.

notsci, vote kx

[Marquis]

KX is undoubtedly the SK, lynch him for happy pointa

SV and MS are conftown

CrashTextDummie is already super strong town, I'm reading Eddie different now

notsci has been town read since day 1 but I'm getting paranoid now so I may recheck

idk what to think of Matias and Muffin so far

yay random readslists

[Marquis]

there's one mafia left and i'm trying to be practical which is hard with the mass townlurking going on

[Marquis]

fine ns can have the hammer.

VOTE: kx

[Marquis]

Well, it's just delaying the inevitable. We lynch KX, SV dies, and lynch probably meeps tomorrow. Random reads lists won't help as much right now as people seem to think; use the night to catch up and talk more tomorrow, since the guaranteed lynch is stagnating the game.

[Marquis]

gg kx confirms we have cop and not doc/rb.

why did ms not die last night

[Marquis]

ok someone can steal the hammer from ns now

pedit harsh

[Marquis]

wow you're really pushing this aren't you

mafia is going to have to kill me instead of sv at this rate

[Marquis]

js trying to pull a Beast and outing the other scumteam only works if you're telling the truth/actually sound legitimate while doing it

so now i am conf town along with sv and ms w0w

[Marquis]

please hammer the serial killer now

[Marquis]

just because i don't go for the obvious, smh

if i were scum, bussing beast like that would have been too obvious anyway, he was dead weight practically

[Marquis]

oh

he thinks i'm the cop and wants a mislynch on me tomorrow

ok

[Marquis]

As expected, Matias is

Guilty

as well.

VOTE: Matias

Good game. (Not really, though, toward the end.)

[Marquis]

Actually, I want the hammer this time.

UNVOTE:

[Marquis]

um are you trying to

[Marquis]

i can't tell if

[Marquis]

um are you trying to

what

The following roles are in the game.
9 Vanilla Townies
2 Masons
2 Town Power Roles
2 Mafia Goons
2 Mafia Power Roles
1 Jack-of-all-Trades Serial Killer

[Marquis]

i can't even tell

[Marquis]

To be honest I think you'd have been lynched first anyway. Unless I'm overinflating my importance again, there wasn't much else to explain my sudden deathtunneling of both HD and KX.

pedit lol votecount I want the hammer

[Marquis]

SO UPSET

[Marquis]

why make a case when I can just plant seeds, be lazy, and act slightly less scummier than you to avoid both nightkills and bandwagons

[Marquis]

unpoetic tho

thanks