Open 9 - Basic Twelve Player (Game Over!) - before 400

[Battle Mage]

hmm...
Interesting claim. it seems to fit quite well. I think that SV is

PROBABLY

telling the truth. If he was scum, he would be very foolish to guess at peoples roles, because odds are that he would be wrong.

of course one scenario that i think you forgot to mention is that Akbar is also scum. This of course means that scum could have been on either wagon yesterday-further complicating matters. To this end, i wouldnt be surprised if some Mafia members were on the IH wagon.

I'm going to wait some time for a possible conterclaim.

If you made this up, it obviously means your scum with either SL or BM. Since that was today's focus you many have thought the game was over and your just buying a little time.

If your telling the truth, then I agree BM is one scummy townie. It's like playing with Panzer.

Never EVER say that to me again. I cant think of a worse insult you could have burdened me with. Please take it back, or ill sulk in the corner for the rest of the game!

[spectrumvoid]

I don't think it's likely that we were so awesome we managed to run up 2 scum at deadline. I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's unlikely.

[Akbar]

LOL, ok I'll refraise.
I never meant anything personally. I'm sure you are just playing the game for what it is, a game. You have a very aggressive play style. Since Mafia already know whose who, it only serves to throw off the townies.
The same for Panzer, who admittedly plays while stoned, probably doesn't take the game too seriously.
Again, nothing personal.

[Lowell]

I guess also there's the chance that one of your "innocents" is actually the godfather. Right?

[Ripley]

Just posting to say I'm not counterclaiming cop.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I guess also there's the chance that one of your "innocents" is actually the godfather. Right?

It's an open setup... there is no Godfather.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Shadowlurker (1) -- The Central Scrutiniser
Fircoal (2) -- Spectrumvoid, Shadowlurker
The Central Scrutiniser (1) -- Battle Mage
Akbar (1) -- Twito


Not Voting: Ripley, Fircoal, Lowell, Akbar
9 alive, 5 to lynch.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Well, unless there is a counterclaim, my scumtheory is pretty much shot to hell. However, I think that spectrumvoid made the right decision by coming out at this point. Three confirmed innocents basically means that the mafia is screwed.

I'm going to have to think about this game a lot more before I start throwing around accusations again. But I will

unvote

and

FOS: Akbar

for the bad leads.

Wow, I can't believe SL is town. ><

[Battle Mage]

do i detect a hint of resentment at the fact you have now probably lost?

Well, unless there is a counterclaim, my scumtheory is pretty much shot to hell. However, I think that spectrumvoid made the right decision by coming out at this point. Three confirmed innocents basically means that the mafia is screwed.

I'm going to have to think about this game a lot more before I start throwing around accusations again. But I will

unvote

and

FOS: Akbar

for the bad leads.

Wow, I can't believe SL is town. ><

[Akbar]

So basically, the only players left that can counterclaim are the two that SV fingered. Twito and Fircoal.

[Lowell]

So I guess I believe SV's claim, and I'll believe she is sane and there is no GF. Her posts are pretty consistent with what I would expect from a cop. That clears her, BM, and SL.

As well, I'm also not budging on Akbar being town. I find it nearly impossible to believe that we had 2 scum on the brink of lynch. Ripley, for sniffing out IH and placing the decisive vote (when no action at all would have sent Akbar to the gallows instead), has got to be town.

That leaves me only TCS, Twito, and Fircoal as scum candidates.

We should go back to the flurry of activity around lynch. Especially if you assume (as I do) Akbar to be town, the last few days/hours before the IH lynch really come into focus. Akbar made a good post about this, actually. Post 376. He just unfortunately came to the wrong conclusion.

I believe the scum are the 3 "multiple-posters" towards the lynch. IH, Fircoal, and Twito.

I know earlier I suspected Fircoal for the way he shifted his vote at the end, but somehow I got turned away from that and onto SL and SV. So, back to basics.

vote Fircoal

FoS Twito

[Akbar]

I'm waiting to hear any defense/counterclaim from Twito and Fircoal. I found Twito suspicious earlier and posted about it, but never saw much on Fircoal except when he voted me.

I'm still stunned by SV's claim, but somebody has to be cop. So, with no counterclaim, there's no good reason to disagree. What's interesting is SL's vote has been following SV since yesterday, long before the claim. So unless SV made it up, SL has a good read on her.

@Lowell Thanks for recognizing the effort even though I may have got sidetracked.

[Ripley]

The silence of Twito and Fircoal is telling, I think. Both have posted in another thread since the claim.

Anyway, like Akbar I'm willing to wait and hear what they have to say before voting, though I'm almost certain to be voting for one or the other. Both were on my list of 5 suspects at the start of the day, though Fircoal had moved down a bit, and spectrumvoid's claim conveniently clears the other 3.

[Twito]

Akbar scum appears to be alive.

[Twito]

Has he roleclaimed?

[Akbar]

Ok, since Twito is dodging the question, I'll take that as a "No" he's not our cop.
Just waiting on Fircoal now.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

vote: Twito.

[Battle Mage]

you do all that analysis and then just join the largest wagon?
also-why ignore TCS? (obvious scum).

So I guess I believe SV's claim, and I'll believe she is sane and there is no GF. Her posts are pretty consistent with what I would expect from a cop. That clears her, BM, and SL.

As well, I'm also not budging on Akbar being town. I find it nearly impossible to believe that we had 2 scum on the brink of lynch. Ripley, for sniffing out IH and placing the decisive vote (when no action at all would have sent Akbar to the gallows instead), has got to be town.

That leaves me only TCS, Twito, and Fircoal as scum candidates.

We should go back to the flurry of activity around lynch. Especially if you assume (as I do) Akbar to be town, the last few days/hours before the IH lynch really come into focus. Akbar made a good post about this, actually. Post 376. He just unfortunately came to the wrong conclusion.

I believe the scum are the 3 "multiple-posters" towards the lynch. IH, Fircoal, and Twito.

I know earlier I suspected Fircoal for the way he shifted his vote at the end, but somehow I got turned away from that and onto SL and SV. So, back to basics.

vote Fircoal

FoS Twito

[The Central Scrutinizer]

you do all that analysis and then just join the largest wagon?
also-why ignore TCS? (obvious scum).

So I guess I believe SV's claim, and I'll believe she is sane and there is no GF. Her posts are pretty consistent with what I would expect from a cop. That clears her, BM, and SL.

As well, I'm also not budging on Akbar being town. I find it nearly impossible to believe that we had 2 scum on the brink of lynch. Ripley, for sniffing out IH and placing the decisive vote (when no action at all would have sent Akbar to the gallows instead), has got to be town.

That leaves me only TCS, Twito, and Fircoal as scum candidates.

We should go back to the flurry of activity around lynch. Especially if you assume (as I do) Akbar to be town, the last few days/hours before the IH lynch really come into focus. Akbar made a good post about this, actually. Post 376. He just unfortunately came to the wrong conclusion.

I believe the scum are the 3 "multiple-posters" towards the lynch. IH, Fircoal, and Twito.

I know earlier I suspected Fircoal for the way he shifted his vote at the end, but somehow I got turned away from that and onto SL and SV. So, back to basics.

vote Fircoal

FoS Twito

I've been purposefully ignoring you all this time, but seriously... what gives?

[Fircoal]

Akbar scum appears to be alive.

Trying to get others lynched instead of defening yourself. you didn't even post your reasons. that's kind of scummy.

I voted Azkar because he was more scummy at the time. How was I to know that IH was scum, I'm not the cop or the mafia. I voted based on who I thought was more scummy out of the 2. The 2 people who are scum could of been on the IH wagon.

[Akbar]

Ok, I guess that's about as convincing as can be right now about SV being the Cop.

Vote Twito

Reasoning can be found on post 376 & 400 if anyone's interested.

SV, on the off chance Mafia tries to frame you by not night-killing you, or if we have a nurse role that got unlocked, can you investigate me, for BM's benefit?

[spectrumvoid]

vote: Twito

I'd support either a Twito or Fircoal lynch.

It's an open game, I'll be dead tonight anyway

[Lowell]

you do all that analysis and then just join the largest wagon?
also-why ignore TCS? (obvious scum).

The largest wagon happened to be right. And it is again, I think.

unvote, vote Twito

In answer to your question, TCS gave off very townie vibes early in the game. With Twito, Fircoal, and TCS as the only potential scum left, he is the last on my list of suspects. I keep going back to that pre-lynch flurry and it just makes too much sense that Twito and Fircoal were out protecting their own.

It's possible I'm being played here, I guess. What makes you so sure TCS is the scum? I've never fully understood the case against him.

[Patrick]

Votecount

Twito (4) -- The Central Scrutiniser, Akbar, Spectrumvoid, Lowell
Fircoal (1) -- Shadowlurker
The Central Scrutiniser (1) -- Battle Mage
Akbar (1) -- Twito

Not Voting: Ripley, Fircoal
9 alive, 5 to lynch.

[Battle Mage]

Yes, i think this suggestion would answer for alot.
Im not convinced however that Twito is scum. given the choices we have left, i would far prefer a TCS lynch...
BM

Ok, I guess that's about as convincing as can be right now about SV being the Cop.

Vote Twito

Reasoning can be found on post 376 & 400 if anyone's interested.

SV, on the off chance Mafia tries to frame you by not night-killing you, or if we have a nurse role that got unlocked, can you investigate me, for BM's benefit?