Newbie 310: It's All Over -- WOO-HOO!

[Mastermind of Sin]

From what i have read, i think theopor_COD, Fircoal and VitaminR seems suspicious.

After rereading, i am even more confused than before.
Azkar - Hasn't posted in a while, I don't know what to think about him
Fircoal - Doesn't feel very suspicious.
Seol - Somehow, he feels more like a machine than a human. I don't know how to describe it.
Theopor_COD - He feels suspicious. A few page ago, he reacted very strongly to me saying i wanted to vote him, but he does not seem as suspicious as before.
Thesp - Don't know what to think.
VitaminR - He still feels suspicious.

My suspicion list right now is:
VitaminR
theopor_COD
-Gap-
Seol
Fircoal
Thesp
Azkar
-Huge Gap-
Myself

What caused this change in your suspicions about Fircoal, Avinyl? You didn't post anything to indicate a reason to no longer be suspicious of him...

[Mastermind of Sin]

This is something interesting to note, a small scumtell of sorts.

Of the five players that made suspicion lists throughout the game so far, notice that only Fircoal and Avinyl, two of our suspects for scum, listed themselves on their own list. This could possibly come from a subconscious need to assert one's protownness, which is a trap that scum sometimes fall into. Out of a feeling of guilt, scum tend to want to repeat the fact that they are protown, and I've noticed that especially in lists such as these, scum are far more likely to list themselves, in order to make them seem less suspicious through subliminal messaging.

Most Scummy

VR
Firc (top 2 pretty even)
Avinyl (only because of the lack of context for clearing Firc)
Seol
Thesp
theopor

Least Scummy

My suspicion list right now is:
VitaminR
theopor_COD
-Gap-
Seol
Fircoal
Thesp
Azkar
-Huge Gap-
Myself

ok here is my list:

Seol
VitaminR
Avinyl
<huge gap>
Theopor_Cod
Thesp
<big gap>
Azkar
Fircoal

Fircoal
Seol
<tiny gap>
theopor_COD
Avinyl
<tiny gap>
Azkar
<large gap>
VitaminR

Most scummy:

theopor
VitaminR
<big gap>
Avinyl
Fircoal
Thesp
Azkar

[Mastermind of Sin]

Back to Avinyl for a sec- I think this might have been looked at as well:

I know i don't post very much, i read the game but i just can't come up with anything to say. As i have said before, i suspect theodor_COD and VitaminR. This is mostly based on feeling, and now theodor_COD doesn't feel as much scummy as VitaminR.

A twist on an old joke- 1 out of every three people are scummy...look left, look right...if you didn't see a scummy person it's you

Just flat out- we need to hear more from you, Avinyl. You've got less than one post per page in a 13 page game.

Gorckat, can you explain that statement? I don't see how your little "joke" was relevant to what you quoted from Avinyl.

Also, can you explain why, out of all the posts you've made in this thread, you've only mentioned Avinyl twice? It's almost as if you're avoiding talking about him.

[gorckat]

Gorckat, can you explain that statement? I don't see how your little "joke" was relevant to what you quoted from Avinyl.

Also, can you explain why, out of all the posts you've made in this thread, you've only mentioned Avinyl twice? It's almost as if you're avoiding talking about him.

Sure- I forget who told the original joke (Steve Martin, maybe?) but it was bascially one out of every three people are ugly- look at the person to your left and the one to your right- if you don't see an ugly person, it's you!

Avi was saying no one seemed really scummy and "...i just can't come up with anything to say." I tried to prod him into opening up- he really shouldn't have had to "come up" with anything if he had nothing to hide. If he couldn't "come up" with anything, maybe he was the scum- which has, in fact, proved true.

As far as mentioning him, I often abbreviate names, so if you CTRL+F my posts for Avi and and not Avinyl, you'll see I've actually talked about him quite a lot the last two game days. Day 1 he had virtually nothing to comment on, so saying I avoided him is overlooking that he avoided us.

[theopor_COD]

So we got

Gorckat 2 - Fircoal, Avinyl
Fircoal 1 - Gorckat
Avinyl 1 - Mastermind

My head say's one thing, my heart say's another and a voice from the dead is saying another.

At least everyone thinks I'm a townie

Give me a few hours.

[theopor_COD]

Sod it longer I think worse it will be.

Dead Townies
Vitamin - for Fircoal, Avinyl - against Gorckat, MoS

Thesp - for Gorckat - against Fircoal, slightly against MoS

I can see an MoS/Gorckat partnership, Fircoal and Avinyl seems less likely, Gorckat/Avinyl even more so but still I guess possible.
Mind if Soel/MoS was scum why didn't he hammer me when he had the chance mind same argument applies to Avinyl, I wasn't half playing scummy so he could have hammered and escaped a lynch I think.
My main argument against Fircoal applies to Azkar/Gorckat.
Then we got Gorckat coming straight out accusing Fircoal off scum, why investigate Fircoal and then Avinyl counterclaims, for some reason I don't understand why both "supposed" cops would investigate Fircoal, Gorckat's second investigation is pretty convienent I'd have liked him to have investigated me or MoS. Avinyl's makes sense in a way mind if he's scum he knows everyone's alignment.
As for Vitamin's killing - I can see arguments for both Gorckat and Fircoal ordering the hit, mind I think as a newb Fircoal would prefer someone who thought he was town still alive. Gorckat if he's with MoS would probably have to had made the hit on his own and I reckon prob thought of Vitamin as the biggest threat, which probably answers why when he first appeared he attacked VR straight off.

I do hope I don't regret this . . .

Vote Gorckat

And if he's mafia which I'm 80% on (good enough I think, the longer I think the more I'll change my mind) then MoS is his partner.

If I'm wrong apologies to the town and well played scum, fingers crossed eh.

[gorckat]

Bah.

[theopor_COD]

I'm not leaping around like a crazed fool . . . yet.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I hope you're right...statistically, that wasn't the best play, but we could get lucky.

[MeMe]

End of Day Count

:

gorckat

(3):

Fircoal, Avinyl, theopor_COD

Fircoal

(1):

gorckat

Avinyl

(1):

Mastermind of Sin

gorckat

, big bad

mafia

, has been lynched.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Get those choices in by

3 p.m. EST Thursday, March 22

(about 48 hours from now).

[MeMe]

Add another dead

townie

to the pile -- this time it's

Fircoal

.

Three alive means two of you will have to agree to lynch the other. Game on.

[theopor_COD]

Ha this should be fun. At least I was right yesterday.

[Avinyl]

Vote Mastermind of Sin

because he is Mafia.

[Fircoal]

BAH!

[theopor_COD]

And if he's mafia which I'm 80% on (good enough I think, the longer I think the more I'll change my mind) then MoS is his partner.

I cannot see Avinyl counter-claiming Gorckat as scum partner. I'm pretty certain MoS/Soel is the other scum. As such . . .

Vote Mastermind of Sin

Talking is overrated.

[MeMe]

Talking is overrated.

Generally, I'd not agree with this...but MoS is one of the few who

might

have been able to pull this off. So -- way to go.

Mastermind of Sin

, last

scum

, is lynched!

Congratulations, town!

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Night choices

:

Scum

: VitaminR, Thesp, Fircoal

Cop

(Avinyl): Fircoal, MoS, theopor
No doc.

[gorckat]

Damn- good game folks. I had a blast with the cop claim gambit

[Thesp]

Woohoo!

Looks like I was entirely right about Seol, and very wrong about Avinyl/gorckat. (I was watching after I died, watching all MoS's posts, thinking,

MoS is sooooooo scum!

I'm glad the town pulled it off. Nicely done, everybody, with particular props to theopor_COD and VitaminR. Good game!

[Fircoal]

Good Game everyone. VitaminR was right for his scum choice at the end of the day.

[VitaminR]

Yay!

Well-done, theopor. Was I "the voice from the dead"?

When I saw gorckat claim cop, I actually thought "there'd better be a real cop in the game, I don't want to lose this."

I really enjoyed this game.

Thanks for modding, MeMe!

[Fircoal]

I really enjoyed the game too.

[Thesp]

Good Game everyone. VitaminR was right for his scum choice at the end of the day.

Also, good job not self-destructing, as might have been easy to do. I know I rode you pretty hard for a while, and you played it well.

[VitaminR]

I agree! I think we had some very good newbie players in this game.

[Avinyl]

Victory! However, the first page says that i was the doctor. I was not.

[MeMe]

Fixed.