Mini 419: Farkle Mafia (Game Over)

[Coron]

Confirm

[Coron]

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (6, 6, 1, 4, 6, 2) = 25

[Coron]

123456 1500 pts

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (1, 1, 1, 6, 3, 1) = 13

[Coron]

3 4s for 400 for a total of 1900
Pass. No reason to press my luck here.

[Coron]

Vote: Adele

I just want you to know, I'm still mad at you for Scenes.

[Coron]

Vote: Adele

I just want you to know, I'm still mad at you for Scenes.

I love Coron.

He picked a maturity level, and stuck with it.

What maturity?

[Coron]

It's your turn admiral

[Coron]

At least one of our many posts with dice tags in a row. It would be rather annoying to have to put something in all of them.

[Coron]

If he wants to pass there's no reason for us to stop him. That is unless you're scum with him.

[Coron]

If he wants to pass there's no reason for us to stop him. That is unless you're scum with him.

There's no reason not to remind him either. That is unless you are scum and you know he is town.

If his score is low you're more likely to win. You know that you are (whatever alignment you are) and will help you out. The only reason to want others to do well is if you think that they are of similar alignment for some reason or another.

[Coron]

Obviously a single round can reverse that.

[Coron]

No.

[Coron]

Same percentage for everyone except yourself, which means you have no reason to want to help people that are not yourself(I'm assuming the difference between where you get with good play and where they get with good play is mostly negligable over long periods of time).

[Coron]

We need a skip pretty soon if we don't get a roll, also, mod, in the interest of fairness we should put a specific limit on the time between rolls before a person is skipped.

[Coron]

Me thinks someone does not exactly grasp the game?

[Coron]

I will put up status in the first post, I am also setting a 2 day maximum before you r turn is skipped. This is not helpful.

Thesp, you don't pick up where someone left off. You roll your dice separate from the opponent. You don't get their points.

Sorry, I'd never heard of Farkel where you couldn't play off of the prior player's roll. I've always known it with what the Wikipedia refers to as "running". Also, I'd rather not have the condescension, Coron. Thanks. Let's try again...

Original Roll String: 6d6 (STATIC)

6 6-Sided Dice: (1, 5, 1, 3, 2, 2) = 14

It wasn't intended to be condescending.

[Coron]

Also, running was listed under "variations" and so we're probably not playing that variant.

[Coron]

They want to lynch me because I'm doing well in terms of points as far as I can tell. Also, it seems Nocmen has 4 votes, any reason why?

[Coron]

Dagger that makes no sense. My whole reasoning is based around the assumption that the only person you know the alignment of is yourself.

[Coron]

This game is based in who gets to a certain number first not the total number of points at the end of the day. This means that It does not help town to have a bunch of town people and a bunch of scum people having slightly higher numbers when you could just have one town person with slightly higher numbers.

Think of it this way, say that this information gives you an extra 10% points. If you use this information by yourself and don't tell other people then you would have to get significantly fewer points than your opponent for someone not on your side to end up getting to this one power. However if you give it to everyone then it's back to everyone having an equal chance at it. It seems to me that unless you know someone to be on the same side as you that it is advantagous not to help them.

[Coron]

No, it doesn't. This is a goal based game. If everyone ran the same algorithim everyone would have a 10% chance of winning. Let's say your advantage gives you another 9% chance for ease of math.
You: 19%
Else: 9%
6 town else= 54%+19%=73%
If you balance it out:
You:10%
Else: 10%
6 town else=60%+10%=70%
With your advantage kept to yourself you have a 3% better chance of getting the role to a town player.

[Coron]

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (4, 6, 6, 1, 2, 6) = 25

[Coron]

Total score: 2900
Round score: 1000
Not worth going on.
Pass.

[Coron]

Vote Coron

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He's likely to reach 10000 very soon this way. We'd better lynch him before he does.

Unless you know that coron is not pro-town, you have no reason not to want him to do well.

Actually mathematically CES should not root for me, and in fact, should root against me, unless he somehow knows I have the same alignment as he does.

[Coron]

Stats and logic have there place if mafia. Cops, roleblockers, doctors, and other such roles make logic important in end game.

Statisically speaking everyone that is not you in your thing Kilminator, is 7/11 town. You are 1 town. Basically there is a better chance you are town than he, or anyone else is town. In general, I agree helping people in mafia is good, just in this case, the fact that it hurts you outweighs that.

[Coron]

Still here, still happy with my vote.

why

[Coron]

Policy? Explain this policy, and why, in general it is a good policy.

[Coron]

I'm under suspicion for calling it suspicious that someone help another person win the farkle game(I stand by this as it would only help scum helping his partner).

Also, I have limited access until monday.

[Coron]

God, when did you get so po-faced?

To answer your question, see EmpTyger's title.

I'm ok with lynching you

this game

because you're scummy. And you know it.

So the policy is lynch scummy people? I have that policy too.

[Coron]

Unvote vote: Nocmen

[Coron]

Still up for a Coron lynch.

Why? If I find your reason good enough, I might vote him.

He wants to lynch me because I'm winning the Farkle game. Not a particularly strong reason.

[Coron]

It's not my turn, is it? Also, I strongly dislike Coron's defenses of misrepresenting people.

I do not recall either misrepresenting people or defending misrepresentation of people. So um...

[Coron]

They want to lynch me because I'm doing well in terms of points as far as I can tell.

He wants to lynch me because I'm winning the Farkle game. Not a particularly strong reason.

The former quote is misleading, and the latter is oversimplified.

Vote Coron

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He's likely to reach 10000 very soon this way. We'd better lynch him before he does.

Vote Coron

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He's likely to reach 10000 very soon this way. We'd better lynch him before he does.

Unless you know that coron is not pro-town, you have no reason not to want him to do well.

I think Coron already explained this rather well. At this point, it's best for me to want nobody but myself win the Farkle game.

These are the only reasons I see given by CES for the lynch of me, and the first one is all I saw in terms of reasoning given for voting for me at the time of my first post.

So you're saying i should be a mind reader? Okay, how about this. Hmmm I'm tapping into CES's brain wave! He's voting me because he's scum!

As far as I could tell at the point of the first post you quote, that was the only given reason. And even now, the only reason CES has sited for his vote is the fact that I am winning the farkle game, which is what the 2nd post is in reference to.

[Coron]

Is it weird that CES keeps promoting coron lynching without voting me, or is it just me?

[Coron]

I don't think fixing the game is in the spirit of the game.

[Coron]

It probably isn't in the spirit of Farkle to Farklefix. It is

most definitely

in the spirit of Mafia to Farklefix.

I disagree.

[Coron]

I think that that is not the way that this game was intended, and I do not intend to play it that way.

If you believe that this game was intended for us to be able to control whether and who gets abilities I think you are kind of silly.

[Coron]

MY objective is to play the game the way it was intended to be played and win and have fun. In about that order.

Fixing the Farkle game damages #1 and #3.

[Coron]

I still thing that it would be wrong to change the farkle game, however if you changed the length of the mafia day I would be fine with that more or less.

[Coron]

Coron, I know I'm asking what is potentially an impossible question for you to answer correctly, but do you think you'd have the same stance if you didn't have significantly more points thatn everyone else? How about if we were trying to Farklefix for you?

Yes, yes.
and the point is moot anyway, because I was correct.

[Coron]

Big booming voice - The eleventh commandment: Though shalt not Farklefix, or results will be lost that day.

Don't try to break the game, in other words.

Sorry CES, mod mandated no Farklefixing.

[Coron]

I agree that farklefixing might help the town and thus mafia members would want to avoid it. I am not a mafia member however.

[Coron]

I am not a mafia member however.

Oh alright then. Hey everybody don't vote coron because he's not mafia. he said so.

good plan.

[Coron]

How does Coron as a scum play?

I said gut, not metagaming.

What in particular tweaks your gut, then?

do you not understand how guts work?

[Coron]

Thanks seol, forgot it was my turn. BTW I think we should lynch CES for being a gimmick and not telling us who he is. That is an anti-town strategy. Also, for making a poor choice in his choice of gimmick names.

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (3, 2, 3, 5, 1, 4) = 18

[Coron]

take out a 5 for 50

Original Roll String: 5d6

5 6-Sided Dice: (2, 4, 6, 4, 3) = 19

[Coron]

take out a 1 for 150 total this time

Original Roll String: 4d6

4 6-Sided Dice: (3, 2, 3, 4) = 12

[Coron]

take out a 1 for 250.
I believe that makes a total of 3150.
Pass.

[Coron]

...that is the most lame excuse in the world as far as I'm concerned, a SK who wanted to claim vig would claim that most likely. I don't really understand all the unvoting, heck I was about to place my vote there.

unvote Vote: nocmen