NY 170: Georgetown II (Game Over)

[Zdenek]

We're not lynching you.
Probably Zekrom will get lynched, and that's fine.

[Tony PF]

We're not lynching you.
Probably Zekrom will get lynched, and that's fine.

I'm totally fine with lynching Zekrom.

(Speaking of Zekrom, I made a wiki page for him. Check. It. Out.)

[Aegor]

k. VOTE: Zekrom

[Tony PF]

VOTE: Zekrom

Anyone else care to help push this?

[Thor665]

OK, on inHim, I'm leaning town. Has gut reads and strong town reads, which aren't that common among scum.

I'm really hoping I'm misunderstanding this. Are you saying having gut reads and strong town reads...makes him town?
Could you at least, if this is what you're saying, back it up with meta specific to him?

I am on most of the top three lists; just lynch me today./quote]
I have to say, for me, this is a screaming scumtell.
Dear gawd.

@Mod - would you be amenable to a Wisdom of the Masses (or crowd, or whatever it is called) towards Zekrom?

I personally think about five minutes looking at his current games, and his play in them, should showcase that he had no business replacing in here, and is going to hurt whichever faction his slot belongs to.

[Thor665]

OK, on inHim, I'm leaning town. Has gut reads and strong town reads, which aren't that common among scum.

I'm really hoping I'm misunderstanding this. Are you saying having gut reads and strong town reads...makes him town?
Could you at least, if this is what you're saying, back it up with meta specific to him?

I am on most of the top three lists; just lynch me today.

I have to say, for me, this is a screaming scumtell.
Dear gawd.

@Mod - would you be amenable to a Wisdom of the Masses (or crowd, or whatever it is called) towards Zekrom?

I personally think about five minutes looking at his current games, and his play in them, should showcase that he had no business replacing in here, and is going to hurt whichever faction his slot belongs to.

[emeraldemon]

Yeah, I don't really know how this works, but I'd rather Zekrom be modkilled or force-replaced than lynched if possible.

For what it's worth, he wasn't so blatantly anti-town in Newbie 1464 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=36006 . He was scum that game.

[The Fonz]

OK, on inHim, I'm leaning town. Has gut reads and strong town reads, which aren't that common among scum.

I'm really hoping I'm misunderstanding this. Are you saying having gut reads and strong town reads...makes him town?
Could you at least, if this is what you're saying, back it up with meta specific to him?

Those are towntells in general. I don't have meta on him specifically, I haven't played in quite a while so I don't remember many players' meta, save those like ABR and Yos2 I've played with loads.

[Tony PF]

Yeah, I don't really know how this works, but I'd rather Zekrom be modkilled or force-replaced than lynched if possible.

For what it's worth, he wasn't so blatantly anti-town in Newbie 1464 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=36006 . He was scum that game.

Well, if the mod won't do that, then we may as well lynch him today.

Let's dwell on that.

[Chevre]

Yeah, I think Zekrom should be dealt with via replacement. A lynch is a waste for town, and it seems most people are voting him for a playstyle rather than actual suspicions. He did replace Maestro after all, whom little people seem to regard when voting and explaining their vote for Zekrom.

[Thor665]

it seems most people are voting him for a playstyle rather than actual suspicions

Bingo, bango, boingo.

[Thor665]

I mean, it's Day 2. We ought to be able to call the person we're lynching scummy.

[Zdenek]

Maestro twice attacked people voting the wagon he was on.

[Bulbazak]

I know. I forgot the space.

No, not that. It's that they're BOTH on my scum list, and if ABR isn't going to the noose then we still need to lynch someone.

I'd rather it not be me.

You're a scum read for me, too. Much better than Aegor in any case.

OK, on inHim, I'm leaning town. Has gut reads and strong town reads, which aren't that common among scum.

You need to get out more.

Maestro twice attacked people voting the wagon he was on.

I sense there's a point here, but I'm not quite sure what it is.

[Zdenek]

Town want to lynch the person they are voting and should be happy when people get on the wagon with them.

[Thor665]

Town want to lynch the person they are voting and should be happy when people get on the wagon with them.

Meh, I actually take that as a towntell, honestly. He didn't have an end agenda in his lynch preferences, he was looking for behavior he read as scummy. Yeah?

[Thor665]

Conversely, what you're describing, *is* what I would expect from scum.

[Zdenek]

I would agree with your first point if Maestro seemed like he thought Maenara and Kaboom were scum, but with Maenara he just pointed out the the didn't like her vote, and well he voted Kaboom, but unvoted 20 posts later without saying much of anything. It really looks to me like he was tossing accusations around.

I disagree with your second point, and think that the behavior is null.

[Zdenek]

Thor, do you actually think that people being happy when the wagon they are on gets more votes are scummy?

[Tony PF]

Mod: Can we get an answer here?

[Aegor]

Agreed about Zekrom. If he is not replaced I want him lynched today.

[Garmr]

I acknowledged my prod. Also I feel bad for zekrom but his taken on to many games for his experience level.

[Thor665]

Thor, do you actually think that people being happy when the wagon they are on gets more votes are scummy?

It depends on the type of happiness.
But dropping suspicion or town reading people simply for the act of supporting a wagon they are on? Yeah, I find that to trend scummy.

I acknowledged my prod. Also I feel bad for zekrom but his taken on to many games for his experience level.

You shouldn't feel bad for him. Theoretically he is a man full grown and should be able to either commit or not to commit to things.
He has failed in his commitment, and did so because of only actions under his own control - that makes him a bad player who frankly I'd love to see black listed from replacing and put on a sharp game limit because...seriously.

[inHimshallibe]

Valentine's weekend kept me busy, will resume posting shortly.

[Huntress]

bump