Mafia 63: Wolves - Game over!

[Jingolaw]

huh. not sure what's wrong with that coding. Oh well, it's readable.

[Scarecrow]

Have you ever played with Twito before?

[Battle Mage]

actually, i would have voted for him myself, had my case on Scarecrow been weak enough to disregard. Presumably Scarecrows move onto Twito is to entice me off his wagon. He obviously knows me too well.

Unvote, Vote: Twito

id like to hear some contributions from him, but a bit o pressure cant do any harm.

Oh, great reason there, Scarecrow. BM posts a mere observation, not even worthy of a finger, much less a vote, and you're ready to vote for Twito? Not that I don't think Twito might be scum, but that was an awfully quick vote justified by a thin meta-game assertion.

FoS: Scarecrow

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oh, and can we get a confirmation that Twito is even going to be around for the next week?...Isn't he on Easter holiday?

1) What is scarecrow trying to assert then if it is so obvious?

2) I think I've made it quite clear that my vote is based on four reasons, I don't see how you can ignore three of them and say it is based only on the first reason. I'd say attacking me and saying that I'm basing my vote on ThAd on ONE reason when I've supplied FOUR is "blind".

If anyone is blind here, it is you.

1) What Scarecrow is, or was, trying to assert is no mystery. He was asserting that you were being aggressive to the point of being suspiciously so. This was recognized by several people, including me and Ancalagon. Ultimately, however, Scarecrow’s assertions are immaterial, since it wasn’t the content that you questioned, but rather the format.

When Ancalagon seconded Scarecrow’s posted suspicions, you attacked not his reasoning, but his terminology. Granted, you were already defending your aggression elsewhere, but it seemed to undermine your efforts to not simply refute the substance of the Scarecrow/Jingolaw/Ancalagon accusation, but rather go after Ancalagon purely on a procedural formality. That’s what looked bad, and still does: your all caps FoS attack on Ancalagon based on nothing more than your perception that an interrogatory should not be quoted for truthiness.

2) I’ll remind you that I’m not questioning your vote for ThAdmiral; it may be well-placed. I’m questioning your odd adherence to a nonsensical rationale, namely this whole random vs. joke / funny vs. not-funny meme. It’s silly, and you know it’s silly, which is why your continued defense of it makes me very suspicious. Your other reasons seem OK to me, but if number 4 in the list of reasons is completely baseless, that calls in to question reasons 1 through 3. You then trumpet that we’re not listening to reasons 1 through 3, and my answer is yes, that’s correct, we’re not listening to reasons 1 through 3, because reason 4 is the one we’re talking about.

In any case, my suspicion is that this is a case of throwing good logic after bad, and that the scum are just lurking and waiting...probably.

For now, I’ll

unvote: Pooky

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[Fircoal]

FOs: Ancalagon for the nice bandwagon vote.

Hm.... no bandwagons? And...

FoS: Fircoal

Not for that, but for this:

And Battlemage, I'm voting you because I like voting people named Battle Mage

I voted BM as a random vote a while back, or if there was a reason it isn't that important. While, you were going after the most likely to be lynched.

[ThAdmiral]

@ scarecrow and battle mage: I think metagaming is a bad practice in general, as I have already said.

[Battle Mage]

to an extent i agree. i will never trust anyone elses metagaming as evidence for my own opinions, but if i have been able to form opinions on players from other games, it stands to reason that i should use these to the best of my ability.
Twito is a hard person to read, but in this game i think he could be scum.
BM

@Fircoal-you have admitted your reason for voting me is weak. do you fancy unvoting any time soon?

@ scarecrow and battle mage: I think metagaming is a bad practice in general, as I have already said.

[Fircoal]

@Fircoal-you have admitted your reason for voting me is weak. do you fancy unvoting any time soon?

Not really.

[Ancalagon]

Check the vacations topic.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This inactivity can only be classified as treason.

unvote

vote Twito

[Scarecrow]

There, you see what I mean?

[Phoebus]

I beg your apologies. I had unforeseen lack of access.

Vote count shortly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The game's stalling, lots of folks going missing, no1's listening to me about ThAd, I gotta do something to try to get it going again don't I?

[Phoebus]

Vote Count:

3 Battle Mage (~N9V~, Fircoal, TheJiveMachine)

2 Fircoal (Coron, Talitha)
1 Niempie (bird1111)

3 Pooky (Jingolaw, Scarecrow, Twito)

1 ThAdmiral (The Goat)

3 Twito (Ancalagon, Battle Mage, Pooky)

3 not voting

9 to lynch

Deadline 1: 1700 GMT Monday the 16th

[Battle Mage]

can we please have a prod on N9V and TheJiveMachine?

@Scarecrow-no i dont see what you mean, as you didnt care to explain...

Please keep your quoting relevant.
The long style is really distracting.

Thanks.
-P

[Scarecrow]

About Twito and his lurkiness.

[Twito]

Good point. In the one game I was with him in, he was a townie, and posted constantly.

unvote, vote:twito

I had internet access at home, now I don't. I have to use internet cafe's. That's bullshit. Check my other games activity dropped in all of them.

On top of that atm I'm on vacation, in Cancun, check the vacation/limited access thread.

[Twito]

Do you want me to point to other games where my activity dropped after being reasonably high or can you manage it yourself?

[Scarecrow]

Ah, ok.

[Battle Mage]

that doesnt mean alot-you could quite easily be lurking in your other games.
anyway, i understand it may be tough, but if you could please make an occassional effort to pop in and comment on this game, that would be good.
Just think what might happen to the town without your expert guidance?!

Unvote

on the premise that we hear a little more from Twito in the future.

Do you want me to point to other games where my activity dropped after being reasonably high or can you manage it yourself?

[Jingolaw]

@ scarecrow and battle mage: I think metagaming is a bad practice in general, as I have already said.

In general, I agree. Of course, just as I was starting to think that I would Twito for lurkiness as an exception, he shows up with a plausible excuse.

[Jingolaw]

EBWOP:

"...that I would vote for Twito for lurkiness as an exception..."

[Fircoal]

I think we should focus on another lurker without an excuse.

[Jingolaw]

very well.

FoS: TheJiveMachine

for extreme lurkiness.

[ThAdmiral]

I suppose it's not just metagaming as such that I am against, it's more jumping to conclusions about a player without knowing the whole story.

[Battle Mage]

thats one of the main concepts of Mafia.

I suppose it's not just metagaming as such that I am against, it's more jumping to conclusions about a player without knowing the whole story.