sorry for my absense guys, ive been sick for a while and I still am. After I post this or a similar message in all my games I will return to bed. But you can expect me back in 1-2 days. this funtions as a BUMP.
When was the last time you added anything of worth, TSQ? you claimed a post restriction day one, complained that you couldnt post anything of content, but now that its gone, all youve done is defend your own move to make the restriction up. And I still feel that the false post restriction is scummy since there is so much more to gain as scum with a restriction then as town, seeing as its a free pass to post almost no content. You also totally ignored the two posts I made showing how you in fact posted nothing of worth D1 despite how you claimed to.
And also, as a sidenote, I posted my opinions about most of the players a while back, and thats how I still feel. If you cant remember my opinions, I suggest
As I said my last post, I've already posted my opinion on many of the players. But rather than actually rereading to find out what I was talking about, you accuse me of OMGUSing, when in fact I wasnt, since I had already posted several times about how you hadnt posted any content, and was simply reiterating.
Elias_the_thief wrote:
Stuff bout Pbug:
Well. We had two NK's last night, so we either have a vig or SK on our hands. Based on Pbug's partial claim, he would be either the vig or the SK i guess. sometimes ive felt that he is too easily convinced. ill do a reread focusing on his play later. I'm curious about pbugs role, but I'm not sure how scummy he is yet.
Stuff bout Panzer:
There's the matter of him fishing for a claim a while back, and he was very quick to put the last vote on. but really, not strong enough for a lynch in my opinion.
Stuff bout TSQ:
i still dont like the post restriction. regardless of the LAL argument, faking a post restriction is something thats simply more beneficial to scum then town (as in, its more useful to do as scum). basically your argument that it was for a challenge is the same as saying "i decided to vote hop and fish for claims first day and see if i could live". maybe it was for fun, maybe it wasnt, but you'd probably still be lynched because you cant let every person who claims "oh, i did something scummy for a challenge" live.
Stuff bout Jingolaw:
im not keen on how you've acted since you've jumped in. you seem too eager to lynch. but not too suspicious, because youre fairly new. (not to mafia but the site) perhaps youve never played online before. id like you to clear that question up so i have a better idea about how to judge your actions.
Stuff bout Fircoal
: the way you based your vote off of someone saying something that they in fact didnt say disturbed me. thats about it.
I dont think any of these people have committed lynchable offenses. theyre not
that
suspicious, yet. but i'm still mainly wary of TSQ, IGMEOY. we obviously cant afford a mislynch if we're losing two a night. of course, it could be that we have a vig, and the vig made a kill last night. since MG was one shot, i'd bet any other vigs would be one shot too. I suppose i could post my opinions on other people too, but I wanted to post on the most active people whom my suspicions are on. if youre not on the list, im either not suspicious of you, or you need to start posting more.
I also was actually involved in D1. Now instead of attacking me for lack of content, perhaps you could post some.
Elias. Please explain how I was not involved in d1. I went to the lengths of making 4-5 posts in a row to get my opinions out. You're not making any sense.
Times when you posted 4-5 times to express something:
- When you explained to Nai the purpose of Bandwagoning Day 1
- When you explained a post restriction that you actually didnt have.
Thats about all I see. Your greatest contribution to Day 1 was explaining to Nai the reasoning behind the bandwagon on him. The way you talk about making these 4-5 post long opinions implies that you contributed more than you did.
I second that motion, elias. I would also like to know where TSQ has been actually helpful to the town. Don't get this wrong, I still believe TSQ is protown I just want this conversation to end quickly so we could get to the topic at hand. Can i please here some thoughts on CPT. Fantasic and a rational explanation of why only CoG and I are voting him.
Because captain came in, acted like an ass, not necessarily a scummy ass, but an ass none the less, and has not posted since then. TBH I looks like replacing him would be a better plan than voting him.
Uh, well there has been quite a bit of things that were lost in the crash, but towards the premise of the FOS, I would say several things
1) Faking the PR led to discussion, which was valuable to the town. I would say the people who pushed for a lynch because "PR's are not in normal games." probably has a decent chance to be scum, as I do not see town reaction to something as "lynch it without any more discussion plz." That's one major contribution I have had.
2) I led the charge on captain while he was still posting. The fact that he has stopped posting makes it no longer necessary to pursue pressure on him. I will wait for his replacement, and then continue from there.
3) Re: Elias. I voted him because what he did is a fairly common scum move. It goes like this:
1) You notice there is no discussion in the game
2) You call for people to discuss, without adding anything yourself
3) You seem to be persuing a protown course of action, but are not actually helping the town at all yourself. This is why "Wow...Nothing going on here...Can you guys discuss plz" posts will always be looked at carefully in my eyes.
4) I helped push the nai wagon which led to the start of our first day 1 discussion. Basically, I forced people to take sides on something for the first time this game
5) I am not going to mention every opinion I clearly demonstrated d1, go back and read my posts. If you honestly think I wasn't asking questions, forcing reactions, and sharing opinions, then you really need new glasses.
Well for one, theres the fact that you bite the logic I explained in my post. Second theres the fact that you then overdefensively OMGUS'd me afterwords.
first, explain which post youre talking about which contained the logic I "bit".
second, I already explained how it wasnt OMGUS seeing as I had already posted my suspicions based on lack of input from you several posts before, and you simply refused to respond to them.
Did you like, actually read the post? The main point was that you ignored my other posts, and you call that OMGUS? That doesnt even make sense.
Anyways, I asked pbug, not you. Is there any reason you feel the need to tell me what his reasons are, rather than let him express them himself?