NY 174: Oldy Mafia 2 (Game Over)

chamber · Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:10 am

Vote mathcam

chamber · Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:11 am

Are we sure Patrick didn't pull a fast one on us and use Masons from circa 2005?

petroleumjelly · Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:32 am

In post 1726, chamber wrote:Are we sure Patrick didn't pull a fast one on us and use Masons from circa 2005?

This is a Normal game. Moderators lying to players is forbidden, and "Scum Masons" are also explicitly forbidden.

1.)

Why were you skeptical about me being a Mason with undo, given that you basically called the two of us out in Post #1406?

2.)

Why mathcam over DrippingGoofball? You have claimed (

several

times) you are unable to read DrippingGoofball.

For that matter, why mathcam over Glork? You expressed this leaning before (see Post #1685) but that was also unexplained.

chamber · Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:41 am

I don't seriously think you aren't mason's at this point. I just thought your last post was awful.

Because you claiming masons with another scum suspect of mine made me wonder if I wasn't just right about both of you and if it was a gambit, both of you seemed to be in terrible shape before hand if scum so it wasn't risking much.

Despite MBL's analysis leading to him concluding that cam was town, it reinforced my opinion that LML acted differently towards SSK on multiple occasions.

petroleumjelly · Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:56 am

In post 1728, chamber wrote:Because you claiming masons with another scum suspect of mine
made me wonder if I wasn't just right about both of you
and if it was a gambit, both of you seemed to be in terrible shape before hand if scum so it wasn't risking much.

Given that you never expressed any suspicion of me whatsoever, this is not looking particularly honest. The only suspicion you came close to was your "dislike" of me "detracting" from the undo wagon in favor of DrippingGoofball.

Why did you think I was scum?

What about my last post (or posts) is "awful"?

CrashTextDummie · Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:04 am

In post 1724, Bookitty wrote:I am not voting Glork.

If I absolutely have to, I will vote DGB to avoid no-lynch.

If you were actually serious about not wanting to lynch Glork, you would have switched your vote then and there.

Very frustrating vote from chamber as well.

I'll switch to Glork in an hour if nothing happens.

chamber · Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:09 am

In post 1729, petroleumjelly wrote:
In post 1728, chamber wrote:Because you claiming masons with another scum suspect of mine
made me wonder if I wasn't just right about both of you
and if it was a gambit, both of you seemed to be in terrible shape before hand if scum so it wasn't risking much.
Given that you never expressed any suspicion of me whatsoever, this is not looking particularly honest. The only suspicion you came close to was your "dislike" of me "detracting" from the undo wagon in favor of DrippingGoofball.

Why did you think I was scum?

What about my last post (or posts) is "awful"?

Unfortunately I can't instantly update all of my past conclusions and knowledge based on knew knowledge. That process takes time.

Do you honestly think I'm scum trying to setup a mislynch on masons?

petroleumjelly · Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:16 am

In post 1731, chamber wrote:Do you honestly think I'm scum trying to setup a mislynch on masons?

I'm

trying to decide if you're scum, which involves actually trying to extract opinions and reasoning from you. So again:

Why was my post (or posts) awful?

When you said you "wondered if you were just right about me," I assume this meant

you

thought I was scum before I claimed Mason. Why?

ISO · Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:17 am

In post 1684, MrBuddyLee wrote:
@STD
, you haven't stated it plainly, but I think you find Glork townish. Can you please explain why?

Things like this:

In post 714, Glork wrote: I'm done with this. The guy's not even trying to contribute in a meaningful manner. He's just baselessly throwing shit around and hoping his voice gets heard over mine.

seem genuine.

His self meta (975) was meh, but it seems a weird thing to post as scum. Possible but unlikely.

Of the KK voters, A) it seems unlikely they're all scum and I feel more strongly about DGB being scum, and B) his vote seemed the most plausibly town.

I haven't look at his posts in extreme detail but I'm satisfied enough for now to want to look elsewhere for today.

Patrick · Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:20 am

Votecount

Glork (7) -- undo, Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage, Untrod Tripod
CrashTextDummie (1) -- SpyreX
mathcam (5) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty, DrippingGoofball, Glork, chamber
DrippingGoofball (6) -- Save the Dragons, petroleumjelly, mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7, CrashTextDummie

Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch

chamber · Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:21 am

In post 1732, petroleumjelly wrote:
In post 1731, chamber wrote:Do you honestly think I'm scum trying to setup a mislynch on masons?

I'm
trying to decide if you're scum, which involves actually trying to extract opinions and reasoning from you. So again:

Why was my post (or posts) awful?

When you said you "wondered if you were just right about me," I assume this meant
you
thought I was scum before I claimed Mason. Why?

I'm not interested in convincing you that I'm town. You or me will get nightkilled before it matters.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:24 am

This does not make me happy.

Mathcam isn't going to get 6 votes in the next 2.5 hours.

VOTE: Glork

petroleumjelly · Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:25 am

In post 1735, chamber wrote:I'm not interested in convincing you that I'm town. You or me will get nightkilled before it matters.

Then don't be interested in it.

You thought my last post (or posts) was (or were)

"awful"

. Surprisingly, I cannot figure out why you think that until you actually explain why. If you think my reasoning is flawed (and you presumably do not think others should follow my reasoning), I would like to know why.

chamber · Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:31 am

I'm putting my energy into keeping up with the thread and rereading the players that I can actually effect the lynch of. Its looking like I'm going to have to choose one of glork and DGB and that's not a choice I'm happy that I have to make, as you pointed out earlier.

You want me to explain that, I'll do so tomorrow if we are both alive, which I think will be unlikely anyway.

petroleumjelly · Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:33 am

Yes, taking time to explain why you don't have time to give me a one or two line response for why my post is "awful" seems legit.

chamber · Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:34 am

Glad we are finally on the same page.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:35 am

Hypothesis: 2-3 of

undo

, Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons,

Yosarian2

, Albert B. Rampage,
chamber, CrashTextDummie, Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty, Untrod Tripod, Glork
are scum with DGB

DGB defended Glork all day
chamber waffled on Glork,

can't read DGB

CTD said DGB was scumflailing, thinks Glork was just wrong,

now voting DGB

CES

doesn't discuss DGB

, finds glork bad town
Bookitty finds Glork town, DGB townish
UT found both Glork and DGB scummy,

has f3 agreement with glork but just voted him

KK found DGB town all day, Glork scummy since LML lynch
VitR

defended DGB "easywagon"

from Glork most of day
Crayons

cites "other players I trust"

as big reason for finding DGB town, switches to DGB citing a PJ post,

from inHim to DGB to MBL finally back to Glork

Yos

getting same gut reads as DGB

, on Glork D2, at odds with him D1
Albert soft attack on Glork all day two,

big fight with DGB

scumteam: chamber/CES/UT/VitR/Crayons, DGB, LML

Hypothesis: 2-3 of
CrashTextDummie, Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty, DrippingGoofball, chamber,

Save the Dragons

,

petroleumjelly

,

mathcam

,

Porochaz

, Sotty7
are scum with Glork

Glork defended DGB all day
chamber

waffled on Glork, can't read DGB

CTD said

DGB was scumflailing

, thinks Glork was just wrong
CES doesn't discuss DGB,

finds glork bad town

Bookitty finds Glork town, DGB townish
STD

confident DGB is scum

,

threatened to make a case on Glork but won't vote him unless hammer

Poro found both scummy, mostly voted DGB, voted Glork late in day, back to DGB now
Sotty started the day suspicious of both Glork and DGB,

June 21 suddenly found Glork townread "genuine"

scumteam: chamber/Sotty/CES/CTD, STD, Glork, LML

If there's a bus, it's:
STD on DGB

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:39 am

In post 1741, MrBuddyLee wrote: If there's a bus, it's:
STD on DGB

It aint' me and it's my theory that with PJ/mason, the bus is on STD.

chamber · Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:41 am

Just found out my fathers in the hospital so I wont be around for deadline.

uh

Vote glork?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:42 am

In post 1743, chamber wrote:Just found out my fathers in the hospital

Shoot - hope for the best.

undo · Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:10 am

@Patrick

, is the deadline in 0:50h or in 1:50h?

CrashTextDummie · Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:11 am

unvote, vote: Glork

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:16 am

In post 1741, MrBuddyLee wrote:Hypothesis: 2-3 of
CrashTextDummie, Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty, DrippingGoofball, chamber,
Save the Dragons, petroleumjelly, mathcam, Porochaz, Sotty7

I just want to point out that the odds here are slightly worse than 50-50, MBL. That's not a lot of scum in a very long list of players.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:18 am

vote: Glork

ISO · Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:19 am

In post 1741, MrBuddyLee wrote: If there's a bus, it's:
STD on DGB