Graveyard Shift Mafia - ROLL CREDITS

Psyche · Post Post #3750 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:29 am

If town had lynched just one more person correctly, the fact that the lovers were unkillable would have made the game virtually unwinnable for scum.

If the setup is imbalanced, the key figure driving that imbalance, I believe, was our rolecop. Without it, we might have tried to kill the Lovers again and again, or let PeregrineV survive and then claim at some critical moment, or allowed Brian to take aim at Aronis as he seemed quite interested in doing.

The silencer role was basically useless.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #3751 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:33 am

you know the lovers were only unkillable if they were in the same shift, right?

oh right we should post the roles

kuribo · Post Post #3752 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:34 am

In post 3751, Untrod Tripod wrote:you know the lovers were only unkillable if they were in the same shift, right?

oh right we should post the roles

I know that now, but we didn't when we tried twice to kill them

Further, when they were rolecopped, Aronis wasn't told that beyond "Conditional commuter," right?

Psyche · Post Post #3753 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:35 am

I was suspicious that we weren't getting the whole story on those darned role cop results.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #3754 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:36 am

Spoiler: Mafia Role PMs

AronisHello, Aronis!

You are

Horatio Perez, the Human Resources Director Who Believes That Affirmative Action Is a Bad Thing Despite Being The Son of a Cuban Immigrant (

Mafia Opposite Shift Rolecop

)

.

Once per episode, may target a player not currently in your Shift to immediately receive their role name (but not their flavor name or alignment). For example, you would receive “Opposite Shift Rolecop” if you used your ability on yourself.

Your buddies are Zdenek (

9-shot Silencer

), hiplop (

Neighbor

), Serene2 (

Goon

), zoraster (

Goon

), and ~Jordan’ (

Goon

).

You share a factional kill that may used at any time, except during Commercial Breaks. Your team gets one kill per Episode. You may not perform the kill and use your ability in the same Episode.
You share the factional ability to determine the Shift distributions. Your team must submit the Shift distribution at least one Shift prior to the last Shift before a switch occurs. (That is, you must submit the list by the end of Shift A.7 in preparation for the new distribution that will begin in Shift B.1.) If your team fails to submit a list in time, the shifts will stay the same. Exceptions are detailed in the rules.

You win when your faction is the only remaining faction in the game, or nothing else can prevent that from occurring. This is a White Flag game, so the town wins when there is only 1 member of your faction remaining.

You may communicate with your buddies here.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

ZdenekHello, Zdenek!

You are

Tim Chesterfield, the Shift Supervisor Who Tries To Create an Environment Where He Is a Machiavellian Mastermind But In Fact People Just Humor Him Because of His Awful Toupee (

Mafia 9-shot Silencer

)

.

You may send a player home early up to 9 times over the course of the game. Their posts may only contain votes for the remainder of that Shift. You may do this no more than twice in any Episode.

Your buddies are Aronis (

Opposite Shift Rolecop

), hiplop (

Neighbor

), Serene2 (

Goon

), zoraster (

Goon

), and ~Jordan’ (

Goon

).

You share a factional kill that may used at any time, except during Commercial Breaks. Your team gets one kill per Episode. You may not perform the kill and use your ability in the same Episode.
You share the factional ability to determine the Shift distributions. Your team must submit the Shift distribution at least one Shift prior to the last Shift before a switch occurs. (That is, you must submit the list by the end of Shift A.7 in preparation for the new distribution that will begin in Shift B.1.) If your team fails to submit a list in time, the shifts will stay the same. Exceptions are detailed in the rules.

You win when your faction is the only remaining faction in the game, or nothing else can prevent that from occurring. This is a White Flag game, so the town wins when there is only 1 member of your faction remaining.

You may communicate with your buddies here.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

hiplopHello, hiplop!

You are

Hugo Esposito, the Male Secretary Who Feels Some Gender-Related Shame Not Due to His Job But Because His Boss Makes Him Question His Masculinity (

Mafia Neighbor

)

.

You may communicate with xRECKONERx here at any time. Neither of you know the others’ alignment.

Your buddies are Aronis (

Opposite Shift Rolecop

), Zdenek (

9-shot Silencer

), Serene2 (

Goon

), zoraster (

Goon

), and ~Jordan’ (

Goon

).

You share a factional kill that may used at any time, except during Commercial Breaks. Your team gets one kill per Episode.
You share the factional ability to determine the Shift distributions. Your team must submit the Shift distribution at least one Shift prior to the last Shift before a switch occurs. (That is, you must submit the list by the end of Shift A.7 in preparation for the new distribution that will begin in Shift B.1.) If your team fails to submit a list in time, the shifts will stay the same. Exceptions are detailed in the rules.

You win when your faction is the only remaining faction in the game, or nothing else can prevent that from occurring. This is a White Flag game, so the town wins when there is only 1 member of your faction remaining.

You may communicate with your buddies here.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

Serene2Hello, Serene2!

You are

James Tomlinson, the Incompetent Assistant Manager Who’s In Way Over His Head(

Goon

)

.

Your buddies are Aronis (

Opposite Shift Rolecop

), Zdenek (

9-shot Silencer

), hiplop (

Neighbor

), zoraster (

Goon

), and ~Jordan’ (

Goon

).

You share a factional kill that may used at any time, except during Commercial Breaks. Your team gets one kill per Episode.
You share the factional ability to determine the Shift distributions. Your team must submit the Shift distribution at least one Shift prior to the last Shift before a switch occurs. (That is, you must submit the list by the end of Shift A.7 in preparation for the new distribution that will begin in Shift B.1.) If your team fails to submit a list in time, the shifts will stay the same. Exceptions are detailed in the rules.

You win when your faction is the only remaining faction in the game, or nothing else can prevent that from occurring. This is a White Flag game, so the town wins when there is only 1 member of your faction remaining.

You may communicate with your buddies here.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

zorasterHello, zoraster!

You are

Rebecca Berrie, the Assistant Manager Who Has Hobbies That Interfere With Her Work (

Goon

)

.

Your buddies are Aronis (

Opposite Shift Rolecop

), Zdenek (

9-shot Silencer

), hiplop (

Neighbor

), Serene2 (

Goon

), and ~Jordan’ (

Goon

).

You share a factional kill that may used at any time, except during Commercial Breaks. Your team gets one kill per Episode.
You share the factional ability to determine the Shift distributions. Your team must submit the Shift distribution at least one Shift prior to the last Shift before a switch occurs. (That is, you must submit the list by the end of Shift A.7 in preparation for the new distribution that will begin in Shift B.1.) If your team fails to submit a list in time, the shifts will stay the same. Exceptions are detailed in the rules.

You win when your faction is the only remaining faction in the game, or nothing else can prevent that from occurring. This is a White Flag game, so the town wins when there is only 1 member of your faction remaining.

You may communicate with your buddies here.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

~Jordan’Hello, ~Jordan’!

You are

Tina Gomez, the Actually Competent Assistant Manager No One Listens to Because of the Patriarchy (

Goon

)

.

Your buddies are Playername (

Opposite Shift Rolecop

), Playername (

9-shot Silencer

), Playername (

Neighbor

), Playername (

Goon

), and Playername (

Goon

).

You share a factional kill that may used at any time, except during Commercial Breaks. Your team gets one kill per Episode.
You share the factional ability to determine the Shift distributions. Your team must submit the Shift distribution at least one Shift prior to the last Shift before a switch occurs. (That is, you must submit the list by the end of Shift A.7 in preparation for the new distribution that will begin in Shift B.1.) If your team fails to submit a list in time, the shifts will stay the same. Exceptions are detailed in the rules.

You win when your faction is the only remaining faction in the game, or nothing else can prevent that from occurring. This is a White Flag game, so the town wins when there is only 1 member of your faction remaining.

You may communicate with your buddies here.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #3755 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:38 am

Spoiler: Town Role PMs

infinite jestersHello, infinite jesters!

You are

Steve Smith, the Lovebird Who Is Really Just Humoring His Girlfriend’s Fetish For Exhibitionism Because She Reminds Him Of the Ex He Wished He’d Never Lost (

Lynch-only Lover/Conditional Auto-Commuter

)

.

You are Lovers with Svenskt Stal. If you are placed in the same Shift, you automatically commute and become immune to any and all actions directed at you during your Shift. If either of you are lynched, the other will die as well. This only applies to lynches.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

Svenskt StalHello, Svenskt Stal!

You are

Samantha Schmidt, the Exhibitionist Lovebird Who Is Playing Up Her Exhibitionism So Her Boyfriend Will Think She’s Edgy and Cool (

Lynch-only Lover/Conditional Auto-Commuter

)

.

You are Lovers with infinite jesters. If you are placed in the same Shift, you automatically commute and become immune to any and all actions directed at you during your Shift. If either of you are lynched, the other will die as well. This only applies to lynches.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

PeregrineVHello, PeregrineV!

You are

Demetri LeGuin, the IT Guy Who Monitors Your Internet Usage Not Because He’s a Creep But Because He Seeks Connectedness With Other People But His Neckbeard and Fedora Prevent Him From Establishing Real Relationships (

Opposite Shift Tracker

)

.

Once per Episode, you may target any player not currently in your Shift to immediately determine who they visited, if anyone, during the immediate previous Episode.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

Logical DualityHello, Logical Duality!

You are

Thomas Baker, the Office Flirt Who Gets Too Attached Too Quickly And Really Just Wants to Settle Down With Someone Nice Also He’s Bisexual (

Same Shift 1-shot Cop

)

.

Once in the game, you may target any player currently in your Shift to determine their alignment.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

xRECKONERxHello, xRECKONERx!

You are

Cecily Green, the Boss Who Is Good At Her Job and Well-Liked by Her Employees But Just Can’t Seem To Kick That Cocaine Habit (

Neighbor / 1-shot Shift Manipulator

)

.

You may communicate with hiplop here at any time. Neither of you know the others’ alignment.

Additionally, once during the game, you may send us a requirement for the next Shift switch, such as “Mith must be in the same shift as Mr. Flay.” This must be sent to us by the end of the 5th Shift of a cycle (Shift A.5, Shift B.5, etc). We may veto any request, so we suggest you send your action in early. (For clarity’s sake, this power belongs to you alone, not to the neighborhood.)

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

iamausername/goodmorningHello, iamausername!

You are

Francine Caine, the Office Mom Who Works Two Jobs Not Because She Needs the Money but Because She Needs to Feel Useful Because of Her Empty Nest Syndrome (

Same Shift Mass Donut Vendor

)

.

Once in the game, you may bring donuts for your entire Shift. Everyone will receive a PM informing them that they have received a donut, and “Playername brought donuts!” will be posted in-thread.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

BROseidonHello, BROseidon!

You are

Henry Donahue, the Retiree (

Public Ascetic Deathproof Innocent Child With An Expiration Date

)

.

At the beginning of the game, we will make a post that informs the town that you are Town, you cannot be lynched, killed, or targeted by any actions, and that you automatically leave the game at the end of Shift B.8. (These things are all true.)

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

Brian SkiesHello, Brian Skies!

You are

Jared Green, the Boss’s Son Who Dropped Out of School To Be In a Band But Then the Band Failed Probably Because No One Wants to Listen to Gangsta Metal Reggae (

3-shot Same Shift Dayvig

)

.

3 times over the course the game, you may PM us to kill a single player who is currently in your Shift. You may not shoot more than once in each Episode.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

FourteenPointFiveHello, FourteenPointFive!

You are

Kenneth Pastor, the Black Single Father Who’s Actually a Super Good Dad You Racists: (1-shot Bulletproof Townie)

.

You are protected from 1 kill attempt on you. You will be informed when your protection has been used.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

AGarHello, AGar!

You are

Crystal DeBoers, the 20-something Young Woman Whose Empty Life is Filled By Cats and Home Decorating This Sure Isn’t the Life She Was Promised But at Least She Can Meet a Nice Man at a Bar Maybe but They Only Have Two Nights a Week for Dates (Vanilla Townie)

.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

VenmarHello, Venmar!

You are

Mary Walker, the Super Religious Intern Who’s Questioning Her Religion Lately Because She’s Never Been Allowed to Talk to Boys Before and Is Feeling Feelings She Can’t Explain (Vanilla Townie)

.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

The GoatHello, The Goat!

You are

Jeremy Conkley, the Former College Athlete Who Actually Cares About His Job (Vanilla Townie)

.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

Dry-FitHello, Dry-Fit!

You are

Kristof Jenner, the Office’s Token Gay Man Who Reads Straight to All Gay Men (Vanilla Townie)

.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

Mr ZepherHello, Mr Zepher!

You are

Curt Young, The Guy Who Lives Vicariously Through High School Athletes Because The Apex of His Life is A Yellow Stain on the Back of a Prom Dress That’s Gathering Dust in an Attic Somewhere (Vanilla Townie)

.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

ikaHello, ika!

You are

Cynthia Allen, the Lady Who Does Yoga On Lunch Breaks Because She Hopes That It Can Eventually Cleanse Out the Shame She Feels For Living a Safe and Meaningless Life and Never Taking the Risks She Always Promised Herself She Would Take After She Watched Her Mother Fade Away From Breast Cancer (Vanilla Townie)

.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

Bird and BeastHello, Bird and Beast!

You are

Marcus Pesci, An Antisocial Loner Whose Primary Social Outlet is a Forum Game Which He Uses To Take Out His Impotent Rage at Himself for Never Making His Parents Proud (Vanilla Townie)

.

You win when there is only 1 member of the Mafia faction remaining.

Please remember to read the rules post.

Please confirm by PMing us with your character’s last name, alignment, and role.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #3756 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:39 am

SETUP

Mafia
1 Opposite Shift Rolecop (Once per episode, may target a player in the opposite shift to immediately receive their role name.)
1 Shift Supervisor - 9-shot may send a player “home early” (silences them for the remainder of the shift); no more than twice per episode
1 Neighbor - shares a QT with the other Neighbor
3 Goons

Town
Lynch-Only Lover/Conditional Auto-Commuter (if in same shift as Lover, they automatically commute during their shift)
Lynch-Only Lover/Conditional Auto-Commuter
Opposite Shift Tracker (Once per episode, may target any player in the opposite shift to immediately determine who they visited, if anyone, during the immediate previous Episode.)
Same Shift 1-shot cop (Once per game, may target any player in their shift to immediately determine their alignment.)
Neighbor / 1-shot Shift Manipulator (can send a requirement for the next shift, such as “Mith must be in the same shift as Mr. Flay”)
Same Shift Mass Donut Vendor (Once per game, may bring donuts for the entire shift. Everyone gets a PM + “Player X brought donuts!” is posted in-thread.)
Retiree (Public Ascetic Deathproof Innocent Child who leaves the game at the end of Shift 16.)
3-shot Same Shift Dayvig (max one per episode)
1-shot Bulletproof Townie
7 VTs

BROseidon · Post Post #3757 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:46 am

In post 3750, Psyche wrote:The silencer role was basically useless.

Oh lol.

You didn't just say that.

I think a lot of the issue is that town power in this setup is fairly easily quantifiable, whereas scum power (control of shift distribution, silencer) are "outplay" type things that require skill, and are therefore usually underestimated in terms of power (sort of like how masons are usually undervalued by people)

mastin2 · Post Post #3758 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:47 am

In post 3708, T-Bone wrote:Mastin's play was God awful too, let's be fair in placing the blame.

Uh.
zor was given to us as scum before I had a chance to get a read there, but I knew the guilty result was real, and treated it as such.
I had hiplop as scum.
I had Serene as scum more than I didn't, and the times I didn't were largely out of apathy.
I don't remember my Aronis read, or my Jordan read. However, I know for a fact that I had Jordan as scum at least at some point after I died in spite of my apathy.
The only scum I had entirely out of my sights was Zdenek.

You, on the other hand, frankly led basically most of the mislynches the entire game from what I remember. I distinctly recall comments in the dead PT that if you weren't scum, you were honorary scum or something to that effect. That you were a scum MVP.

There was no blame to be placed on me. Helpful hint--when basically every single player in the game (including scum) are saying that there was nothing wrong with my play...chances are, there was nothing wrong with my play.

BROseidon · Post Post #3759 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:48 am

Ugh I would write up design points now that I can see the full setup but fucking training week giving me 15 minutes to take a shit and get ready b/w things.

MrZepher · Post Post #3760 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:51 am

6 scum with some pretty strong PRs tilted the scales a little considering scum had almost total control over who was interacting with whom in a mechanic that already promotes limited interaction.

The game was optimized assuming people would act in an optimal manner starting day 1 and realistically that didn't actually happen until like episode 3 or 4.
Not the fault of the mods that things got pretty one-sided as the game went on.

Flavor was excellent. Like. lol.

Mastin and AP's mess of an episode 1 made the game a lot harder then it should have, but everything else can be driven to poor commitment on lynches from individuals and a lot of do-nothing from people like myself, Goat and ika that let Hiplop and Jordan coast until endgame basically for free.

Psyche · Post Post #3761 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:53 am

In post 3757, BROseidon wrote:
In post 3750, Psyche wrote:The silencer role was basically useless.

Oh lol.

You didn't just say that.

I think a lot of the issue is that town power in this setup is fairly easily quantifiable, whereas scum power (control of shift distribution, silencer) are "outplay" type things that require skill, and are therefore usually underestimated in terms of power (sort of like how masons are usually undervalued by people)

Oh, I loved our control of shift distribution.
But because of how the Silencer role worked and which people were actually playing the game, it basically didn't work. For example, our silencing of IJ didn't actually happen until his shift was actually over. And other times, no one really noticed that anyone had been quieted until several shifts later.

But thanks for the implicit insult.

Psyche · Post Post #3762 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:54 am

I guess Public Ascetic Deathproof Innocent Child is one of those "outplay" type things that require still, too.

FakeGod · Post Post #3763 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:56 am

Why can't we all just get along

ISO · Post Post #3764 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:56 am

Having reads is not the same as doing something about them....but since most of the playerlist wanted you lynched (and you got lynched) you can't tell me you played a good game either. I know I didn't play a good game and I'm not proclaiming that I did. You proclaimed from post number one that you were a mafia God and should have been treated as such.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #3765 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:57 am

In post 3757, BROseidon wrote:
In post 3750, Psyche wrote:The silencer role was basically useless.

Oh lol.

You didn't just say that.

I think a lot of the issue is that town power in this setup is fairly easily quantifiable, whereas scum power (control of shift distribution, silencer) are "outplay" type things that require skill, and are therefore usually underestimated in terms of power (sort of like how masons are usually undervalued by people)

You'd only be silenced for the rest of that shift, not the whole episode.

SleepyKrew · Post Post #3766 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:57 am

This dead thread better be gud

FakeGod · Post Post #3767 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:58 am

SleepyKrew wrote:This dead thread better be gud

It is of high quality, Mr SKrew

MrZepher · Post Post #3768 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:59 am

I was never given access to the death thread. I'm kind of salty about that.

mastin2 · Post Post #3769 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:00 am

In post 3758, mastin2 wrote:The only scum I had entirely out of my sights was Zdenek.

Correction: I had Zdenek in my sights as well. I had no read on Aronis basically the whole game. (That was mainly AP's read.) Though I had Jordan as a townread when I was posting frequently, again, somewhere along the line, that stopped and I had him as scum.

"Played terribly" my ass.

(Also, I actually was trying to read the content in every shift and trying to keep apathy at bay. Real life got in the way of me playing a fair amount, of course. But I was actually trying.)

Psyche · Post Post #3770 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:01 am

Correction: I had Zdenek in my sights as well. I had no read on Aronis basically the whole game. (That was mainly AP's read.) Though I had Jordan as a townread when I was posting frequently, again, somewhere along the line, that stopped and I had him as scum.

"Played terribly" my ass.

(Also, I actually was trying to read the content in every shift and trying to keep apathy at bay. Real life got in the way of me playing a fair amount, of course. But I was actually trying.)

I find that I have the inverse problem as town (I'm not very good at generating reads but can usually tell people who I want dead and make it happen). Crippling either way.

mastin2 · Post Post #3771 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:11 am

Like. When I have reason to be humble, I'm humble.
But this game...
I was obvtown.
AP was obvtown.
Our combined obvtown was such that the strongest scum players in the game (at the time) were willing to risk it all to get us lynched.
Every strong player pretty much is saying that we were obvtown. Over half the scum had to be on that lynch to make it go through, and it went through mainly thanks to a deadline at that. So we were town.

Our reads weren't bad. They weren't perfect, but they were good. You even have the scum saying that we were SO much of a threat that they were willing to risk basically everything and sacrifice a lot in order to take us out--because our accuracy was threatening. We were on the right track.

We put effort into reading the other shift and, most importantly of all, trying to keep the town united in spite of the mechanic. (Which is something that most players didn't do.) We fought the apathy hard. We were actually trying to hold the game together when the nature of the mechanic made it pathetically easy to tear it apart. When many players just decided to flat-out not read what was happening in the other shift and caved in to apathy, not really caring to unify.

Did I give this game as much as I could have, no. Is there things I could have done better, yes. But again: "played terribly", my

ass

.
It should tell you something that the scum thought us basically one of the most dangerous town players in the game. That generally tells you, y'know...that we were among the least-terribly-playing players in the entire game.

Psyche · Post Post #3772 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:13 am

it really doesn't matter
this is just a game

kuribo · Post Post #3773 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:14 am

Either of the Serenes wanna post the hydra QT?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3774 (ISO) » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:15 am

In post 3773, kuribo wrote:Either of the Serenes wanna post the hydra QT?

If only I knew where it was...