Mini 436 - Game over - Mafia wins with no casualties!

[VanDamien]

Honestly VD and Tophat have been the two that have been very silent the past three pages after posting quite a bit in the first pages

I've been very clear in my position, and have had nothing further to add. In case you've missed it, primarily I'd like to lynch Albert, failing that, Katy unless I see something that convinces me that her recent posting has not been active lurking. PI needs a replacement, but there's no reactions there, nothing to go on for future days if that role is confirmed either way, so that's in the mod's hands for now.

Mod edit
Votecount:
Hurrikaty 4 (DeathSauce, VanDamien, DogMom, Albert B. Rampage)
Albert B. Rampage 2 (Paradoxombie, ryan)
Paradoxombie 1 (vollkan)
Poison Ivy 1 (Miztef)
StallingChamp 1 (Poison Ivy)
DeathSauce 1 (StallingChamp)

Not voting 2: Tophat, Hurrikaty

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've been very clear in my position, and have had nothing further to add. In case you've missed it, primarily I'd like to lynch Albert,

failing that

, Katy unless I see something that convinces me that her recent posting has not been active lurking.

Aw, VD, cmere and gimme a hug

[DeathSauce]

Here's another reason why active lurking is anti-town. It forces us to have this lengthy discussion about it. If Hurrikaty is town she has wasted a lot of our time and effort in finding the actual scum and has has subjected another potential townsperson (Miztef) to suspicion for defending her.

[ryan]

^^^ Can't disagree with that statement. We've been debating "lurkers" instead of looking for the real scum.

[Miztef]

So, does that mean the plan is to lynch hurrikaty?

I'm willing to vote her today if she doesn't post within the next 24 hours. I am inclined to agree with death and ryan in this situation, that katy's lurking has become quite the fiasco.

[ryan]

I don't know if fiasco is what I'd call it but it's definetly annoying. I think in this game lurking isn't really a good way to stay under the radar (if that is what she is trying to do) Posting good ideas and evidence IS on the other hand something I'd like to see more players do (and not just in this specific thread but in all games as I'm seeing this same problem in others I'm in)

[vollkan]

So, does that mean the plan is to lynch hurrikaty?

I'm willing to vote her today if she doesn't post within the next 24 hours. I am inclined to agree with death and ryan in this situation, that katy's lurking has become quite the fiasco.

I agree with that, though when you say "if she doesn't

post

" I would add the caveat that the post needs to be something beyond: "Yes I am here, sorry I have been really busy/forgotten about the game/etc. Please don't lynch me." I want this post to be substantial and I want subsequent posts to at least be on par with everyone else.

Also, I agree with DeathSauce here:

I don't see how she is cleared even if she suddenly starts posting eleven paragraph PBPAs. It is apparent that she has been lurking AS A STRATEGY and now that strategy has failed. Only a complete fool would continue a behavior that has been called out and identified as anti-town.

[ryan]

I don't see how she is cleared even if she suddenly starts posting eleven paragraph PBPAs. It is apparent that she has been lurking AS A STRATEGY and now that strategy has failed. Only a complete fool would continue a behavior that has been called out and identified as anti-town.

You make sense DeathSauce, I definetly have HurriKaty higher on my list of scum possibilities, I'm gonna do a re-read of when her posts came (shouldn't take long) and consider a change of my current vote

[ryan]

Did I miss when our deadline was?

[HurriKaty]

I think replacing is better than having them lynched because of lack of content.

The hell? Wow, you've really made me feel welcome. I'd much rather be lynched than replaced when I'm RIGHT HERE. You know, like I said I was?

There, there's another useless post.

Strategy? When did I ever say my lurking is a strategy. I SAID I was going to try to post more.

I dont see how me NOT posting has gotten this bad.

Ok, you want me to post something substantial? Like what. Honestly, what is going on right now that I could comment on besides the fact that you all want to kill me, which I'm pretty sure I've commented on already.

[Lawrencelot]

Prodded Poison Ivy.

[DogMom]

You want to know? OK, here's my attempt at a reply.
I already did a PBPA on you, and it boiled down to:

• *A random vote
  *metagame comments (ie: "how to play the game")
  *comments on misspellings of your name
  *comments about why you haven't been posting and a request for a "single post summary" of the prior 12 pages
  *obvious statements like "people want you dead and that's not good"
  *trying to refute the claim of "lurking" by saying you have
  so
  posted, so
  there
  .

There is

***NO***

game analysis forthcoming from you. None. Whatsoever. We're requesting it. You now have material from

seventeen pages

in this thread that you could be reading, analyzing and commenting on. You have instead chosen to say that "it's too early; I have nothing to say" more than once. Really? Nothing to say? Nothing here has pinged your scumdar? Nothing to say about Albert's claim? Nothing to say about anyone?

OK, at this point, when we have

told you

in Posts #366-370, and again in 384-387.
Heck, ryan eventried to help you out by addressing a question to you!

Miztef even tried to stick up for you. Nice of you to leave him hanging like that. Looks like he's getting tired of hanging there, though.
Oh, look, ryan's got a suggestion. Post good ideas and evidence.
Vollkan pointed out that we really need to see content from you, instead of another "please don't lynch me" post.

You haven't answered ryan's question, you haven't posted

any

game-play at all! Instead you come in and ask us how you can possibly comment on "what is going on right now". Come on, you've been a member here since July 1 of 2006, almost a year - you can't be that naive. You

know

what we're looking for - comments on

anything that has happened in the past seventeen pages

. Not "just stuff that's happened in the last page or two". Not "stuff that only affects YOU".
Read the thread. Comment on it.

If you need it all laid out in easy questions, here ya go:

1) WHO'S YOUR CANDIDATE FOR A DAY 1 LYNCH?
2) WHY? (Please show proof. Links to posts or quotes would be appreciated.)
3) WHO ELSE IS ON YOUR "SCUMLIST"?
4) WHY? (See #2)

It's that simple.

Oh, and for extra credit, please answer this:
5) WHY IS NOT POSTING BAD FOR TOWN? ESPECIALLY ON DAY 1.

Hint: you can find some of your answers here and here.

[ryan]

I think replacing is better than having them lynched because of lack of content.

The hell? Wow, you've really made me feel welcome. I'd much rather be lynched than replaced when I'm RIGHT HERE. You know, like I said I was?

There, there's another useless post.

Strategy? When did I ever say my lurking is a strategy. I SAID I was going to try to post more.

I dont see how me NOT posting has gotten this bad.

Ok, you want me to post something substantial? Like what. Honestly, what is going on right now that I could comment on besides the fact that you all want to kill me, which I'm pretty sure I've commented on already.

More than a "hey I'm here" post is what we're looking for. Why so defensive?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Miztef, Ryan...you know what to do.

[ryan]

Miztef, Ryan...you know what to do.

I do?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You make sense DeathSauce, I definetly have HurriKaty higher on my list of scum possibilities, I'm gonna do a re-read of when her posts came (shouldn't take long) and

consider a change of my current vote

With that poor excuse of an argument HuriK

i

ty put up, and lack of total content, I think its only fair to place another vote on her.

[ryan]

You make sense DeathSauce, I definetly have HurriKaty higher on my list of scum possibilities, I'm gonna do a re-read of when her posts came (shouldn't take long) and

consider a change of my current vote

With that poor excuse of an argument HuriK

i

ty put up, and lack of total content, I think its only fair to place another vote on her.

Actually there would need to be 3 to officially out her from the game. Even if Miztef and myself place our votes on her there would need to be one more

[Albert B. Rampage]

Actually there would need to be 3 to officially out her from the game. Even if Miztef and myself place our votes on her there would need to be one more

What do you mean "actually" ? I was full aware that she only has 4 votes on her, what are you implying ?

[ryan]

Um implying? I'm "stating" that even if Miztef and I vote for her there would still need to be ONE more vote to vote her off. What are you trying to stir up now ABR?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I thought you were correcting me, never mind.

[ryan]

So, does that mean the plan is to lynch hurrikaty

?

I'm willing to vote her today if she doesn't post within the next 24 hours. I am inclined to agree with death and ryan in this situation, that katy's lurking has become quite the fiasco.

I don't think enough people have weighed in their opinion yet

[StallingChamp]

So, does that mean the plan is to lynch hurrikaty

?

I'm willing to vote her today if she doesn't post within the next 24 hours. I am inclined to agree with death and ryan in this situation, that katy's lurking has become quite the fiasco.

I don't think enough people have weighed in their opinion yet

I think that HurriKatty's last post is all the opinion we need. She blatently ADMITTED to lurking, for pete's sake.

Unvote, Vote HK

[ryan]

I'm gonna give her one last chance, if her post feels scummy, I have no problem changing my vote to her

[Paradoxombie]

Wow, I gotta say, I didn't think any possible occurance could ever convince me to vote anyone but ABR, short of a believable cop claim

It looks like I was very wrong

Vote: HurriKaty

just wow

it is unfortunate, though, that we'll get essentially no clues from her death if she is scum

[Albert B. Rampage]

hey you forgot to unvote me