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/confirm.
Though we can't vote yet, my vote's going to Haschel Cedricson. Pirates=scum.-
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Impacience=Scummy.Nekka-Lucifer wrote:It is my play style , I like quick games, I can be impaicent.. Mabye when I'm mafia I won't care about time
Anyway, stick to the point in 1 post, like I said (Why is it just me and A Papaya talking again)
It's pretty early in to the game, so I don't think it's a huge deal yet, but IGMEOY...-
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Vote LTIH. He's always scum.
Always.
...On a serious note, you, Nekka-Lucifer, are being extremely scummy.
While lots of good information comes out of any lynch, it's incredibly stupid to want the execution to come too quickly; all the juicy information that we really want comes from midday.-
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So what if you're relatively new? It might just be inexperience, but you're acting veeeery scummy.I'm scared now, I got 4 votes on here, what have I done? Look at my join date, no-one's taking it into consideration anymore...
Why?Also, I think I'm going to unvote
What does join date have to do with someone voting you?I don't even know why myself but I do have a FoS: A Papaya seeing he is -3 ing me on the basis that I should be lynched because I'm new... My join date practically matches his!!-
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Why? If you're town, we'll get information; if you're scum, we'll get a dead scum.WOW, 5.... scum going on here... Bad idea to lynch me
To both statements: not necessarily.If someone votes, their scum, so then someone else should unvote to put it back on 5...
Not necessarily. It could be 2 very bad players.If there's 2 votes at same time, there's a pre-aranged hammer...
You say that like it's a bad thing.So, basically it's giving up me to find out 2 mafia...
Why? I fail to see what HB did meriting a FoS.I think I may be babling on now and I also have FoS: Haut Boy , hope bolds work on QRs
You're either a new person or the most amazing and awesome scheming (and slightly confusing) mafioso ever.Anyway, whatever you do, UNVOTE!! please... Just look into my avatar and gaze into Pus' in Boots eyes... Then you will have sypathy for the New Townie...
Consider me screwed.And if that doesn't work, SCREW YOU...
I do believe you're probably town, but it's always possible for the sighted to pretend to be blind so that the other blind people won't be quite so angry when the sighted person leads them into a ditch.
That's the worst metaphor I've made all day!-
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...And why aren't you going to be the one to initiate the conversation?A Papaya wrote:I have no idea who to vote for, no one sees that scummy. So I'm going to watch the discussion develop...but IH does seem the must scummy to me, so far.
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Why would you be paranoid of something that brings information?Xdaamno wrote:Was that a hint of sarcasm or am I paranoid?
FOS: Xdaamno-
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How so? I misinterpreted what he said, and I came to a false conclusion. He corrected my misinterpretation, and I went on.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Posts 132-134 look like distancing.-
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I never even voted for him in the first place.
Perhaps an IGMEOY would've been better, eh.-
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That's a very bad reason. You're saying his playing style makes it impossible to tell his alliance; that should be reason to let him live until we get better information.A Papaya wrote:I'll explain my logic now, Fletcher.
This is my opinion.
Nekka Lucifer is an idiot, IMO. He doesn't help at all, and in every other game he is in, I get the impression that he is scum. He just isn't that good at mafia. Therefore, it's most likely he'll end up doing something stupid, even as a townie, and we'll waste a lynch later in the game, when it matters more, on him. That's why I wanted him out of the way now.
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I suspect the only real difference is from player to player.YogurtBandit wrote:
How is saying Mafia a Tell as opposed to saying scum?Xdaamno wrote:Hmm, OK. It's just there wasn't anything else to go on, and I'm fond of the small psychological tells like people saying 'mafia' instead of 'scum'.
Though, now I've said that, nobody will fall for it >.<
It's possible that one word is scummiet than another, but it's probably just a difference as to who's playing.-
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I don't care what we call them, as long as they don't get them proverbial basketball.-
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Okay, I'm assuming that we began with 3 mafia, which seems pretty standard.
3/4 chance that N-L is town. Therefore, there's a 3/4 chance that we're at 7 to 3.
1/4 of mafia, in which case it's 8 to 2.
If he's town, we have about a 40% chance of killing a mafioso.
If he's scum, we have a 25% chance.
If he's town and we mislynch today, then we're at LyLo.
If he's scum and we mislynch, then we still have one more chance before LyLo.
If he's town and we lynch scum, then we have one chance before LyLo.
If he's scum and we lynch scum, then we have three chances before we're at LyLo.
If we don't lynch and he's town, then we have one chance before LyLo.
If we don't lynch and he's scum, we have 2 chances before LyLo.
One thing we could consider would be to vote No Lynch every day, unless it's basically obvious that someone is scum. That nearly doubles our time, and we could still hold mock votes before night begins.-
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Well, the math loses points in usefulness, but meh. The statistics are mostly the same, unless we have a cop with a guilty or something similar.Fletcher wrote:
This is all fine and dandy... if we were robots who just randomly voted and no one had any special abilities.xyzzy wrote:Okay, I'm assuming that we began with 3 mafia, which seems pretty standard.
3/4 chance that N-L is town. Therefore, there's a 3/4 chance that we're at 7 to 3.
1/4 of mafia, in which case it's 8 to 2.
If he's town, we have about a 40% chance of killing a mafioso.
If he's scum, we have a 25% chance.
If he's town and we mislynch today, then we're at LyLo.
If he's scum and we mislynch, then we still have one more chance before LyLo.
If he's town and we lynch scum, then we have one chance before LyLo.
If he's scum and we lynch scum, then we have three chances before we're at LyLo.
If we don't lynch and he's town, then we have one chance before LyLo.
If we don't lynch and he's scum, we have 2 chances before LyLo.-
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It buys us time, which we've already lost.A Papaya wrote:@No Lynch:
It's a stupid idea. Because if we don't lynch anyone at all today, we're going to be in the same spot as we were, minus players from nightkills. It's lose-lose.
FOS: Everyone who voted No Lynch-
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Some players enjoy the game more in-character. I don't see what's scummy about that.The textbook example of this is going 'Oh No!' whenever someone dies, when that's part of the gameplay anyway. Solving the 'mystery' is part of the gameplay, and stating it is a scum tell. IMO.-
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Forgetting to FoS isn't scummy, but remember: we don't know that you forgot. Your alibi is only as good as your credibility.What? Umm...I suspected him, but not enough to vote. I forgot to FoS. How is that scummy?-
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Right now? I'm suspicious of all the people who are expecting others to analyze the game.-
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...You asked me who I was suspicious of. Many players are expecting more experienced players to analyze everyone. That could be laziness, or fear of slipping up.-
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So I changed my playstyle for this game.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:He's simply been very, very tentative about accusing anyone... that's my primary rationale.
I'd be a sucky player if I never did that.-
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Stop trying to tell the town what to do.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
That's a weak, weak excuse.xyzzy wrote:
So I changed my playstyle for this game.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:He's simply been very, very tentative about accusing anyone... that's my primary rationale.
I'd be a sucky player if I never did that.
Lynch this guy please.
And you'll notice that in the two games so far in which I've died (N354 and M448), I've had an aggresive playstyle and I've been scum. So if you're argument is that I'm scum because that's not how I'm playing, then your logic is horribly flawed.
Flawed logic comes from deceitful purposes; deceitful purposes come from scum.
Unvote
Vote: Yogurt Bandit-
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Because Yogurt Bandit was the one who said that I was changing my style to not look scummy.
And I fail to see how responding to WIFOM with WIFOM is that bad. If you want that kind of debate, I'm willing to have one, but don't say that I'm scummy for being like you, you know?
...Well, I mean, unless you like looking scummy. But that'd be stupid, eh?-
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(Oh, and that's beside the point that I can't die day 1. I'm always lynched day 2; I'm cursed. If I win, I either survive, or I die day 2. If I lose, I die day 2.)-
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He hasn't done anything startlingly bad; not active, but not scummy, either.-
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Please Always Remember To Investigate Clues In People's Alibis To Inspire Other... Ni!Xdaamno wrote:
What's that, an acronym?inHimshallibe wrote:
Yup, let's string him up!Xdaamno wrote:
Drats; I've been completely figured out.inHimshallibe wrote:
This is a clever guise to conceal your true voting records. Mhm.Xdaamno wrote:
Uhm... I realised I was voting for someone else, then looked at the possible candidates and chose one I'd like to hear the most from (Thus, a pressure vote). I try to keep my vote productive.mlaker wrote:I don't really see much to comment on, to me nothing is really going down. I think Voting for me because I have computer problems is a little suspicious. Xdaamno is my top bet for scum.
Pressure voting is almost completed unrelated to scum hunting.
PARTICIPATION, anyone?
hmm... the Knights Who Say Ni...
I can't say I see what inhim did that's so scummy, though...-
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'Ello, schis.
Who are you suspicious of, and why?-
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...*ahem*
Trying to avoid the question, I'd presume.
Unvote, Vote Schis-
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You could have said that.
Saying nothing in response to a question is scummy.-
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Your whole argument is essentially, "Yeah, I'm scummy, and I'm going to avoid spreading useful information, but here's some other people who I think are scummy."McStab wrote:Well, to help contribute more, although I doubt this'll help catch scum much, here's some things...
I think a no lynch would be a bad idea today, because if NL was town, and we lynch a townie, we may be down by two, but if we lynch a scum, then we balance things out.
I think that mlaker is acting very scummy, he lurks more than even myself.
I don't have any opinions about other people, except that Haschel Cedricson seems innocent to me.
No.-
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Indeed, Mlaker is giving me vibes such that he may be trying to get us to ignore him...
Mlaker, two questions:
If you were scum, who in this game would you want your partners to be?
If you were town, who would you want the scum to be?-
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I'd say McStab is a good choice.
Vote: Stabbity Stab McStab
*stab*-
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If oyu're scum, your answers are based, which'll help us figure out who your partners are.
I'm a bit suspicious of your second answer, because you didn't really say much of why you think that.-
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No, unless we fulfill the regular requirement of 6 voters, then we still have the full time; so we should discuss until then.
I will be gone between the 21st and 24.-
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Xdaamno, I don't like that you only commented on the section of our newcomer's analysis related to you. That's rather defensive, no?
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Your argument seems to be, "Yes, everything I've done is a major scumtell, but I always play this way, so I'm obviously protown."
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No.-
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No, your previous style has nothing to do with your style this particular game.-
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Schis, stop making jokes and make contributions, kthxbai.
FoS: schis-
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I have to agree with inHim.
Unvote, Vote Schismatized-
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Why, NYY? I mean, I know he's annoying on scumchat, but don't just hammer him to say, "OH LOOK AT ME I AM HAMMERIN' PEOPLE"-
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Oh... okay.
Grr.
...Well, that was kind of anticlimatic.-
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I'd rather they get Oden than Get Oden. Oh well; at least they aren't going to get oden or GET ODEN.-
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*Ahem*, I was mocking your spelling. Are you going to say anything?-
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10 + 3 + 3 killed + 16 != mini game.
Since there was only one death, I'd guess:
6 town, 3 mafia.
If we mislynch today, we're in lylo. Unless a cop protected someone or something, but I don't see how a SK would fit in with the theme (except for the Dreaded One-Man Basketball Squad of Death)-
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Wait, isn't it possible that he was actually communicating with a scum? It doesn't appear that the masonry was guaranteed to be with a townsperson...
So searching for them is pretty futile...-
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Xdaamno is scum for completely overreacting.
Note my sig.-
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...Why?The Central Scrutinizer wrote:unvote, vote: Inhim-
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Wait, it's now scummy to ask for rationale for a vote?inHimshallibe wrote:I assume it's because I've been all over the place on the issue of Xdaamno. Otherwise, I'd guess it would be the tone or the perceived "slant" of my argument...
For crying out loud, xyzzy, don't just ask "...Why?"
Please, let's lynch xyzzyscum today.
I've always held that it's a bad idea to do anything based on playstyle being scummy, unless they act differently. I don't see how I've ever gone off of that.-
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You claim that I'm attacking people based on mostly unimportant things, perhaps strawmanning.
That word generally implies that I'm attacking anything I can, anywhere I can. Rather, I'm focusing on non-obvious aspects of scumminess.
The difference is that I'm attacking actual scumminess rather than misconstruing townie-ness.-
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Rolefishing = scummy.Adam The Amazing wrote:Halfway done; I'm still in day one, of course, but I figured I could share some suspicions without properly backing them up as of right now.
Fletcher seems like a townie, along with yogurt thief. I think Fletcher has a power role.
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McStab seems like a vanilla townie OR a cop, I don't think he/she has any other power role.
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Xdammno was pushing hard for yogurt for doing what I would consider making a connection based off his PM - this makes me think Xdammno is very scum. I don't think he's an All-Star, I think he's some outside force; maybe the SK, commissioner Stern?-
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Steve Francis.
I'm unNKable, since, as a spectator of the All-Star Games rather than a player, I'm never around too late after games and no one has enough contact with me to know where my hotel room is.
And yes, I'm aware that that's a typical scum claim; I'm aware that any defense I give will be met with "LOL wifom noob", so if you're unable to accept the possibility, then it's your fault for lynching a townsperson needlessly.
If you do that, you're a stupid, stupid town.
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