Newbie 384: All over 'cept the finger-pointing!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: pickemgenius

Only friendly face I see. I distance people from me, you see ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Remember guys, short days hurt the town.

With that,

Unvote, vote WindFish

[Albert B. Rampage]

His balance pressure theory tickles me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And why haven't we heard from Yosarian?

Um, I posted just two posts before you did, windfish...

He probably meant actual content in your posts.

[Albert B. Rampage]

His balance pressure theory tickles me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Cool I can double-vote

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote Count

:

truncator

(2):

Windfish, pickemgenius

pickemgenius

(1):

truncator

notehead

(1):

Windfish

Windfish

(1):

Albert B. Rampage

not voting

(3):

notehead, thedocsalive, Yosarian2

Four to lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You edited that fast, didn't cha

[Albert B. Rampage]

What are you

talking

about??

I thought you were jeering me after changing the vote count, misrepresenting me for the world to see. SCUM!

On with the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Does somebody need to be replaced or this thread is just moving at a chilling pace ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Does somebody need to be replaced or this thread is just moving at a chilling pace ?

Everyone has posted, so no one needs to be replaced (I think). I'd say this is going slowly right now, but no slower than a lot of the other games on mafiascum.

Hell will freeze over the day mafiascum will burst into flames from activity.

[Albert B. Rampage]

No, he explained himself. I'm just keeping my vote there until a better case emerges now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote, vote Yosarian2

I don't like him much, and would readily lynch him today unless something unexpected happens.

He acts defensive, then quickly jumps on the offensive. He states the obvious. Also, as an side-reason, he is more chatty than his other games, as pickem has said.

[Albert B. Rampage]

He acts defensive, then quickly jumps on the offensive. He states the obvious. Also, as an side-reason, he is more chatty than his other games, as pickem has said.

Do you consider those actions to be pro-scum? To be anti-town?

Definitely scummy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Not quite, Yos. You sounded over-defensive when WindFish made a mistake. Then the next post you submitted, you stated the obvious, and FoS'd me with questions instead of explanations. I find that scummy. Your reactions ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Um

WindFish attacked me, and I pointed out his mistake. That's not "overly defensive", that's exactally the right amount of defensive. That's what every pro-town player should do; if someone attacks you, you should point out the holes in their logic. Which I did.

Way to go to misrepresenting facts. WindFish did

not

attack you. He asked why we haven't heard of you because he didn't see your post. You responded in what seemed like an overreaction to me.

And I FOS'd you because your move didn't seem to make much sense to me at the time. You voted windfish, even though windfish seemed to be saying the exact same thing that you were, that we shouldn't end the day so quickly with a rapid bandwagon. The apparent contradiction in your vote seemed odd, and possibly scummy to me, so I fos'd you and demanded an explination. I never really got a good one from you on that issue, btw.

Here are the posts made.

Whoa, putting pickem at lynch-1 out of the gate? Is it bandwagon?

And why haven't we heard from Yosarian?

I'm going to swing my vote over to alter the pressure balance.

Unvote: Yosarian2
Vote: truncator

Remember guys, short days hurt the town.

With that,

Unvote, vote WindFish

Granted, we both unvoted for the same reason, but I would not put someone in the same predicament I just got someone out of. Therefore I didn't put my vote at the same place WindFish did. Why I put my vote on WF was a) There were no votes on him at the time and b) Some fling of the moment with his pressure-balance sentence, which he clarified.

And now you're voting for me...because I FOS'd you?

You are a scumbag because you misrepresent people and their intentions, which are both very strong indicators of your scumminess.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Me and WindFish, as well as the other

townies

all agree that short days hurt the town. So what ? That doesn't mean he is town. Besides that, I was fishing (pardon the pun) for a reaction.

In your original "defense", I find it awkward that you took the trouble to start your reply with "Um", the exact same thing you started your major defense to my accusations with.
This has become my 2nd, and slightly stronger tell. The other thing that amused me was that you finished it with "...", maybe signifying annoyance. I think a townie in that situation would just re-quote his post, or make a polite joke about the mistake, or perhaps ask a question to WF.

Excuse me, Yos, but I don't see the irony. What I see, is possible scum that I would like to continue to interact with.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And I also see that you've refused to answer my question. What "misrepresentations" did I make, exactally?

I did, and its behind us. You said that you only said "attack" because I called what you did a "defense".

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yos, can I ask you what you think of thedocsalive ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Docs, what is the first thing that comes to mind when you think of Yos in this game so far ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I second that.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I share Yosarian's views on the question.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Like Yosarian, I believe truncator shouldn't act scummy on purpose, or he will have my vote too. For now he is treading on dangerous grounds, but isn't satisfactory for a lynch.

My vote on WF could be because he followed my lead and unvoted, maybe to avoid suspicion.

[Albert B. Rampage]

My vote on WF could be because he followed my lead and unvoted, maybe to avoid suspicion.

Where did this happen? Other than my 1st random vote on Yos, I've kept my vote on trunc.

Nah, random vote. Wow, my reason didn't make sense whatsoever.

[Albert B. Rampage]

OMGUS

[Albert B. Rampage]

Albert's play has been inconsistent to me. He casts accusations, pursues aggressively, then swings around and says he has faith in people. I don't suppose that's necessarily scum behavior, but inconsistent behavior means it's 50/50 to me that your playing for the mafia. So just a

FoS: Albert

for now.

Umm...who do I have faith in again ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: LlamaHunter

Everyone should do the same. He based a vote on evidence he didn't even care to verify.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Albert's play has been inconsistent to me. He casts accusations, pursues aggressively

, then swings around and says he has faith in people.

I don't suppose that's necessarily scum behavior, but inconsistent behavior means it's 50/50 to me that your playing for the mafia. So just a

FoS: Albert

for now.

So I cast accusations, pursue them aggressively...and then withdraw when there's nothing left to say on the subject. How is that inconsistent, tell me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You don't have the slightest clue of what your talking about, and you don't have a case.

I didn't have a strong case on Yosarian either, so I left him alone. I find myself agreeing with him on the truncator issue. What's the big deal ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm here....Llama is scum, my vote is there.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whatever, this game IS unbearably long like he says.

Vote: truncator

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote:LlamaHunter

[Albert B. Rampage]

pickem and docs didn't quicklynch, therefore they aren't both scum.

unvote

, altough I am certain that Llama is scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

...

Why would you vote like that on the first post of the day in a lynch or lose situation? You know what a huge risk that is?

For that matter, why did you feel the need to hammer and end the day so quickly yesterday?

The game was going nowhere, truncator didn't want to participate and he was scummy, I was bored, a combination of these factors and others.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because I was online all day and could unvote as soon as he hit -1 if I wanted.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let's have Yos' take on this...

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think we got him.

Vote: pickemgenius

[Albert B. Rampage]

Actually, I could also go for a Llama vote. Whichever is fine.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Unvote

, doc I'd rather you place your vote first for me to hammer.

[Albert B. Rampage]

There is always the possibility of Llama being scum gambling for a quick win here. If so, he would have to be scum with Albert, because normally with this gambit the scum claims cop with a guilty on an innocent, not the other way around. I can't imagine Llama being scum with any of the three he did not claim to investigate, as it puts his partner at too much unnecessary risk.

I'm especially inclined to consider the case where Llama is lying, since right now the scum must be Llama/Albert or Yos/pickem from my eyes, and I've generally had confidence in Yos and pickem throughout the game. But as I said, I'd expect Llama to claim a guilty result if he were scum going for the quick win, so I'm a bit torn here.

Albert, are you still sure about Llama being scum, since I can't imagine a scenario where he's scum with anyone other than you?

My current scum team is Llama/pickem, subject to change.

I am of course 100% confirmed townie. I believe Yosarian has caught the scum neatly, and it is time to lynch one of them.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I have no choice but to

vote pickemgenius

. If you were a doctor, you would protect me, the confirmed innocent, not Llama. This mistake has cost you the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hmm the plan was lame. How do you even know Llama was town ? He probably was the cop, but we had no way of being sure. If your a doctor, you know for a fact that Yos is scum. Why would you say you would protect Llama when I am confirmed innocent ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

In fact, why didn't you even consider the possible Llama/Yos scum-pair ? Your close-mindedness is ridiculous, I don't even blame myself for lynching you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It makes absolute sense for a scum to claim cop and claim they got an innocent result on a townie. Why didn't you even consider Yos/Llama ?

The mafia knows who is town. Its easy for them to claim someone is innocent, they

know

who is innocent. Your failure to acknowledge this cost you(and possibly us) the game.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Okay. Here's another question: why did you wait until everyone posted to claim doctor ?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Also, why the hell didn't you breadcrumb yourself LOL.

[Albert B. Rampage]

While we're at it, why did you keep following Yosarian around all the game ? Hmph.

[Albert B. Rampage]

1) How is anyone counter-claiming Llama going to affect your claim ?

2) Why didn't you breadcrumb it in a way that scum wouldn't be able to read you...?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your last post was just practically excuses for unthoughtfulness.

One last: why would you protect a 90% confirmed innocent instead of a 100% confirmed innocent ? This just makes no sense at all, and is the main reason behind your lynch.

[Albert B. Rampage]

HE WAS A FUCKING COP

, HIS INVESTIGATION RESULTS ON DAY 3 WOULD END THE GAME, YOU WEREN'T A COP, you were a townie, you would have brought nothing new Day 3, and the game would have been a crapshoot.

You have a point, but I have to emphasize that either you or Yosarian had to be scum, therefore I was confirmed townie, whereas Llama was of unsure alignment. You don't know for a fact that Llama is cop; the odds of there being a cop is 50/50 someone said. Also, who said Llama wasn't confident in surviving a counter-claim in ly-lo ? Really. Always protect the confirmed dude. Or at least say you will and then protect the cop.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Now let me ask you a question.

Again, why were you so impatient throughtout the game?


Why were you in a hurry to end it?

Trunc obviously didn't want to play yet kept posting. Llama, I was online the whole time and could unvote immediately. As for you, I really thought you were scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Llama, you knew you weren't lying.

Doc, you knew you weren't lying.

As for me, I don't know who's lying. Count it as a win if you want to, but you forgot one little detail: you have to convince the townie of who's telling the truth.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Doc as in pickem.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Eh, I said Yos was scum Day1, nobody listened.

[Albert B. Rampage]

GG, well played Yosarian