Newbie 384: All over 'cept the finger-pointing!

[MeMe]

What a nasty little town this has become. Mafia have arrived and are systematically gunning down the nice townfolk. What should decent, smart people do?

MOVE

, of course. What are YOU gonna do? Try to figure out who the bad guys are and lynch 'em during the daylight! I'm not kidding, folks. That's the plan. Deal with it.

Alive (2)

thedocsalive (Mafia)
Yosarian2 (Mafia)

Dead (5)

truncator (Townie) - lynched Day 1
WindFish (Townie) - killed Night 1
pickemgenius (Doctor) - lynched Day 2
Albert B. Rampage (Townie) - killed in Endgame
LlamaHunter

replaces notehead

(Cop) - killed in Endgame

No current deadline

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One of the following four set-ups is used for this game:

a) 2 mafia, 1 cop, 1 doc, 3 townies
b) 2 mafia, 1 cop, 4 townies
c) 2 mafia, 1 doc, 4 townies
d) 2 mafia, 5 townies

Note: in view of the number of players, we will start in the day phase, although most larger games start with a night. The mafia will be allowed to communicate pre-game, though no role will submit choices until Day 1 is over.

Possible roles:

You are the mafia

. You may only talk with each other during the game's "night," not during the "day." You let me know before the night's deadline who will be your victim. You win the game when all the other players are dead.

You are the cop

. Every "night" before the deadline you send me a message with a name of your choice, and I will let you know whether that player is mafia or not. You are not allowed to communicate with any of the other players outside the thread. You win the game when the mafia are dead.

You are the doctor

. Every "night" before the deadline you send me a message with a name of your choice, and that player cannot die if attacked by the mafia that night. You cannot heal yourself. You are not allowed to communicate with any of the other players outside the thread. You win the game when the mafia are dead.

You are a townie

. You are not allowed to communicate with any of the other players outside the thread. You win the game when the mafia are dead.

[MeMe]

The Rules

:

• Votes must be in
  bold
  . If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted.
  
• Please be attentive and
  unvote
  , if necessary, before casting a new vote. This is not
  required
  , but I’d appreciate it.
  
• Executions will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, his pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded. You may
  vote: no lynch
  – majority votes of this kind are necessary to end the day without a death.
  
• The game is not to be discussed outside of the thread unless your role specifically states that you may do so.
  
• Once your death scene has been posted, you’re dead. Stop typing.
  
• Don’t edit/delete previously submitted posts
  
• Don’t quote any PMs from me.
  
• If you have a night choice to make, it is due by the posted deadline. I will not wait for you – if you do not submit a choice to me, tough! No choice will be made.
  
• If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread.
  Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.
  
• Remember, it’s a game. It’s supposed to played. It’s supposed to be
  fun
  . Do your part.

[MeMe]

All confirmations are in.

Seven alive means 4 to lynch -- game on!

[pickemgenius]

Vote: thedocsalive

random.

[WindFish]

Hi everyone!

Vote: Yosarian2

via Excel formula "=FLOOR(RAND()*6+1,1)" and then holding down F9 with my eyes closed for a few seconds.

Gotta start somewhere.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote: pickemgenius

Only friendly face I see. I distance people from me, you see ?

[thedocsalive]

OMGUS Vote: pickemgenius

[notehead]

Only friendly face I see. I distance people from me, you see ?

Vote: Albert B. Rampage

for this annoyingly poetic phrase. (Random vote)

[Yosarian2]

Ah, cool, the game's started.

No random vote just yet.

[truncator]

Anyone who proclaims them self a genius, especially in an area in which I am also a genius, deserves to be lynched, guilty or not.

Vote: pickemgenius

[WindFish]

Whoa, putting pickem at lynch-1 out of the gate? Is it bandwagon?

And why haven't we heard from Yosarian?

I'm going to swing my vote over to alter the pressure balance.

Unvote: Yosarian2
Vote: truncator

[Albert B. Rampage]

Remember guys, short days hurt the town.

With that,

Unvote, vote WindFish

[pickemgenius]

Holy shit I was at -1 for awhile. Ewww.

Unvote

Vote: truncator

lynch -1 this early = no-no

[thedocsalive]

Lynch minus one early isn't the worst thing in the world, guys. If anyone were to drop the hammer, and pickemgenius showed up innocent, the player who dropped the fourth vote would almost certainly be newbie scum, and a surefire lynch the next day. And there's always the 2/7 chance of him being scum.

Not that I'm condoning putting three votes on people for no reason at all, nor am I saying that it's good play, but I'm just saying that it's not as completely negative as people might think.

Albert, was there any reason for voting Windfish there, or was it just a random that wasn't pickemgenius?

[Albert B. Rampage]

His balance pressure theory tickles me.

[pickemgenius]

Lynch minus one early isn't the worst thing in the world, guys. If anyone were to drop the hammer, and pickemgenius showed up innocent, the player who dropped the fourth vote would almost certainly be newbie scum, and a surefire lynch the next day. And there's always the 2/7 chance of him being scum.

Not that I'm condoning putting three votes on people for no reason at all, nor am I saying that it's good play, but I'm just saying that it's not as completely negative as people might think.

Yea, I was just kind of shocked to go to sleep, and wake up to it.


Also it might not be newbie scum neccessarily, it *could* also be the newbie who has played games elsewhere and is used to fast games.

[WindFish]

To me, it wasn't so much that the lynch-1 vote was "early" on Day 1 but that it was truncator's first vote (and first post in the game) that went immediately to the put someone to lynch-1.

I don't care if it we had been playing Day 1 for a week, if that were truncator's same first post, I'd raise an eyebrow.

[pickemgenius]

To me, it wasn't so much that the lynch-1 vote was "early" on Day 1 but that it was truncator's first vote (and first post in the game) that went immediately to the put someone to lynch-1.

I guess I take putting anyone at L-1 with the ninth post in the game as early.

I consider anything before pages 3-5 (depends on content) as early.

I don't care if it we had been playing Day 1 for a week, if that were truncator's same first post, I'd raise an eyebrow.

Yes. Then there would be two cons about that.

1. Lurking
2 No reason for putting someone at L-1

[thedocsalive]

His balance pressure theory tickles me.

I interpreted it as putting some pressure on the person who put pickemgenius at lynch minus one early, though the wording could mean something more or different. I can't speak for him, however.

Also it might not be newbie scum neccessarily, it *could* also be the newbie who has played games elsewhere and is used to fast games.

There are fast lynches, and then there are lynches that are just dumb. A lynch on page three with very little discussion would be a fast lynch IMO. By contrast, a lynch soon after you were at minus one in this game would just have been stupid, and completely random.

To me, it wasn't so much that the lynch-1 vote was "early" on Day 1 but that it was truncator's first vote (and first post in the game) that went immediately to the put someone to lynch-1.

I don't care if it we had been playing Day 1 for a week, if that were truncator's same first post, I'd raise an eyebrow.

I disagree. The part that bothers me was not only that he was put at lynch minus one so early, but also that it had completely no reasoning (nor did any of the other votes). If it was truncator's first post and vote, but if it was later in the game and there were reasons and accusations against pickemgenius, then I think it would be more justified.

Unvote

. I DO disagree with WindFish's thought process, but that doesn't necessarily make him scummy.

[pickemgenius]

Also it might not be newbie scum neccessarily, it *could* also be the newbie who has played games elsewhere and is used to fast games.

There are fast lynches, and then there are lynches that are just dumb.
A lynch on page three with very little discussion would be a fast lynch IMO.

I consider anything before pages 3-5 (depends on content) as early.

3 was a bit of a stretch for me to put, all the games i've been in (here) Day one has lasted:

13 pages
26 pages
16 pages (still ongoing)

I basically put 3, due to the very unlikely event that someone would do something very very very very stupid.

By contrast, a lynch soon after you were at minus one in this game would just have been stupid, and completely random.

Yes.

[Yosarian2]

And why haven't we heard from Yosarian?

Um, I posted just two posts before you did, windfish...

[Albert B. Rampage]

And why haven't we heard from Yosarian?

Um, I posted just two posts before you did, windfish...

He probably meant actual content in your posts.

[Yosarian2]

fos:truncator

I don't know if it was a scum tell or just carelessness, but putting someone at -1 that early is very anti-town. It's even worse that you didn't even mention you were puitting him at -1; someone could have easily hammered him and not even noticed.

Remember guys, short days hurt the town.

With that,

Unvote, vote WindFish

fos:Albert B. Rampage

Why Windfish of all people? He was the one who pointed out we were at lynch -1 and how bad a thing that was. If you agree with that, why are you voting for him?

[pickemgenius]

Yos is usually pretty quiet.

[Albert B. Rampage]

His balance pressure theory tickles me.