NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:30 pm

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gm yelled at those motherfuckers

and now she is back


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Toomai [L-2] - scrambles, Aegor, Mirhawk, Cabd


Mirhawk [L-5] - TheWayItEnds

ika [L-5] - Toomai

Not Voting [5] - Cephrir, Izariael, T S O, AngryPidgeon, ika

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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:41 pm

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In post 2268, TheWayItEnds wrote:Can we seriously stop lynching town?

Vote: Mirhawk


Also when he flips something that doesnt eat bullets we can just lynch Cabd after.


I approve of this message. This is totally just nasty OMGUS on my part, because I have no substance to any of my votes and enjoy using a lot of logical fallacy, so I'm voting with someone who uses superior logic.

VOTE: Mirhawk

I feel that AP, T S O and Ceph are town.

TWIE and Toomai are likely town. I wouldn't vote for either today. I would only consider a vote for Toomai if the only alternative was a no-lynch... but since it
isn't
, I won't be voting for him.

Cabd is stilllllllllll scummy.
Dunno why people are townreading this tbh. Anyone? :?

I think Aegor is town, unsure how I feel about him jumping down my throat for not voting Toomai. Didn't really change my read on him though. He's okay.

ika is just... ika..? He's probably town since reinoe flipped town, but I'd probably still vote for him if we were both at LyLo. Intentionally being scummy as town to make your scum meta harder to distinguish is a WIFOM play that I never like to let slide by. If I'd be scummy for voting ika, yet ika is towny for acting the way he does... then shit. I give up.

scrambles is possible scum. Kind of PoE, kind of gut feel from what I've read of him. I haven't scrutinized anything from his ISO, so I guess that's next for me.
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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:30 pm

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In post 2270, T S O wrote:why

Isn't Cabd softclaiming a PR though?

Cephrir, Izy and Toomai. That's the money.
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:05 pm

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I don't have the foggiest idea why you suspect me or Izzy
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:58 pm

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I have only vague ideas myself.

It's actually kind of exciting.
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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:39 pm

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Vote: Mirhawk


I'm not sold that he's scum. But my vote has to go somewhere useful (i.e. a counterwagon to myself).
This should be required reading for...everyone for anything, really.
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:10 pm

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Doesn't your graph have me listed as the second townest player?
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:11 pm

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Can someone finish off toomai before Mirhawk gets bussed in.
I agree with Mir. At least ivy and toomai are scum.
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:12 pm

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Trust me izy if you come after me, I will make it my job to Lynch you first.
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:48 pm

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In post 2281, Mirhawk wrote:Doesn't your graph have me listed as the second townest player?
No, though I'm not surprised you're mistaking the colours (it's a pain to find enough colours that are distinct from each other). In the graph I posted you're actually invisible behind TWIE (I have no way to fix overlap), at +2% and so tied for third-least-town.
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:04 pm

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You both look like scum to me. :/
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:06 pm

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My head says Toomai is scum.

My gut says otherwise.

The only thing this means is that I will definitely make the wrong decision.
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:08 pm

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Two of my strongest townreads are on Mirhawk and the last isn't voting.
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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:08 pm

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Whatever.

VOTE: Mirhawk
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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:09 pm

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That felt less wrong than I expected it to feel immediately afterward.
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:11 pm

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In post 2283, scrambles wrote:Trust me izy if you come after me, I will make it my job to Lynch you first.

By the way, this makes me cry.
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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:51 pm

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In post 2283, scrambles wrote:Trust me izy if you come after me, I will make it my job to Lynch you first.


Wow, who are you, ika? :roll: You sound all "come on bro, 1v1 me" right now.
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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:46 pm

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In post 2284, Toomai wrote:
No, though I'm not surprised you're mistaking the colours (it's a pain to find enough colours that are distinct from each other). In the graph I posted you're actually invisible behind TWIE (I have no way to fix overlap), at +2% and so tied for third-least-town.

Didn't notice that.

In post 2276, Izariael wrote:
I feel that AP, T S O and Ceph are town.

What precisely has Ceph ever done to earn a townread?
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:47 pm

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Null, at absolute best.
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:22 pm

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Townreads are not earned.

They simply are.
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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:42 pm

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Either Cephrir is town or nonchalant as scum to the point of complete and utter stupidity.

I agree with a lot of Izzy's stuff.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:08 pm

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In post 2294, Cephrir wrote:Townreads are not earned.

They simply are.

Sorry but no.

I believe in cause and effect.

He can't have a townread without having a reason for it.
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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:13 pm

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In post 2296, Mirhawk wrote:
In post 2294, Cephrir wrote:Townreads are not earned.

They simply are.

Sorry but no.

I believe in cause and effect.

He can't have a townread without having a reason for it.

But scrambles can have a scumread on me without having a reason for it, because it agrees with your opinion, right?
:neutral:

In post 1533, scrambles wrote:
I feel very strongly town about TWIE TSO and IZA

I feel strongly scum on MVP, AP, REN, MIRHAWK
In post 2189, scrambles wrote:
Any on else have the feeling that i zy is scum?
In post 2282, scrambles wrote:Can someone finish off toomai before Mirhawk gets bussed in.
I agree with Mir. At least ivy and toomai are scum.
In post 2283, scrambles wrote:Trust me
izy if you come after me, I will make it my job to Lynch you
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My townread on Cephrir is nothing new. You can go back on my ISO and see that I've agreed with many of his posts and felt they rang town.

My townread on T S O is also nothing new. Little has changed on it, even after reinoe's flip.

My townread on AP isn't really new, but is a bit more behind the scenes. From day 1, I've had a strong town lean on him based on his interactions with others. I did question it somewhat on Day 2 after going back and looking at the Day 1 voting, but I didn't find anything I found scummy enough to outweigh the town lean.

I didn't feel like reiterating reasons I've already stated, so I tried to keep it short for the sake of brevity. Look where it got us though. This was certainly not less cumbersome than if I had just copy/pasted my townreads from earlier. My reads have shifted somewhat, but not enough to warrant detailing the shift. If a read changes by a substantial amount, then I'd be sure to detail what has caused that shift.
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:59 pm

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If you have a problem with scrambles scumread on you why don't you take it up with him? I'm not sure why you think I should be questioning scumreads that you don't like.

If you feel Cephrir is town for making lots of protown posts I'm going to have to disagree. He's made enough crappy noncommittal posts to easily balance out any towncred he's managed to accumulate.

I don't really care about you're reads on TSO and AP, you read on Cephrir is the only one that interests me.
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:19 pm

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In post 2298, Mirhawk wrote:If you have a problem with scrambles scumread on you why don't you take it up with him? I'm not sure why you think I should be questioning scumreads that you don't like.


I was making a point. You were disgruntled that I posted townreads with no reasons attached, and yet never batted an eye when scrambles scumread me without a reason. It's a double-standard.
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