Open 17 - Strawberry (Game Over) before 416

[spectrumvoid]

My votes on Earwig, and there it will stay.

[kilmenator]

I already said why I find you scummy IH, go ahead and take a look at my previousl posts, they outline it... and I could be down with a Earwig vote or a blackberry vote, but I am most comfortable with an IH vote as his scumminess has been more under the radar IMO, and scum most likely like to lay low, (at least in my experience they have.)

@RC if you want an earwig wagon to begin, why arent you voting him yourself?

@Earwig, what do you have to say for yourself? You talked for a bit, but have recently flown under the radar... what is going on?

@Berry, if you are still there anything to say? and if you arent there can you tell me why...

Mod: can we get some prods please?

[JDodge]

get an earwig wagon going pleae.

al4xz - 1 (Rosso Carne)

[Rosso Carne]

i wanna hammah him.

de-her

[Rosso Carne]

erm sorry, i mean:

i wanna HAMMAH! (tm) him.

[IH]

unvote, Vote:Earwig

This is ridiculous.

I already said why I find you scummy IH, go ahead and take a look at my previousl posts, they outline it... and I could be down with a Earwig vote or a blackberry vote, but I am most comfortable with an IH vote as his scumminess has been more under the radar IMO, and scum most likely like to lay low, (at least in my experience they have.)

Yes I was under the radar.

I didn't post for like 10 pages.

Now would you call that being under the radar or lurking?

[VitaminR]

Mod: can we get some prods please?

Did that yesterday, in fact.

I have a replacement!

NabakovNabakov replaces Blackberry. Also, he is awesome.

[NabakovNabakov]

Hey guys, posting from the library right now and this essay won't write itself, but I'll give the game a good read as soon as I get home.

[NabakovNabakov]

The poster's first impressions upon an initial reading of the thread:

First: I want to make it Very Very Clear:

I have no idea what my precescessor was talking about when he found a scumtell on Kilme

That could have either been poor judgment or ESP, but regardless, I do not support it. My play is highly based on logic.

Rosso and Kilme's initial argument stemmed from a very wide gap in playstyle, and I don't think either's participation was a scumtell.

I was surprised to see the two people riding hardest for a Brewski lynch (JD and IH) kept up their efforts for some time after he made his soft claim (when it would of course be in the best interests of the mafia to lynch a random townie and be sure to nightkill the cop), but this just could have been distancing as the remainder of the attacks seemed half-hearted and attention was eventually swiveled elsewhere.

I'm really most suspicous of Earwig's no-content posts and opportunism. Even as the far more rational bandwagon formed on AC, he kept his vote on RC. Go check out post 233 (Right under AC's "WHY SHOULD I GIVE THOUGHTS THAT I DONT HAVE!!!!") it's a real gem. It goes something like this:

"My vote for Rosso stands:
[Rosso's initial vote for Kilme]
[every single post in which someone voted Rosso]
That is why I am convinced Rosso's scum"
(He was so proud of it, he quoted it in 290)

While I prefer to work just in FOS's until I have a true conviction, this game needs some major stirring up.

Vote: Earwig

Oh, and IH, could you please explain your last post? To me, it seems like you're admiting to lurking the first 10 pages or so.

[Rosso Carne]

VC so i know when i can HAMMAH!

[IH]

Oh, and IH, could you please explain your last post? To me, it seems like you're admiting to lurking the first 10 pages or so.

Yes. There is a difference between lurking and being under the radar (Which I would consider actively lurking)

[kilmenator]

Disclaimer: this post stems from RC's comment on Hammering...

I dont think anyone should hammer without more discussion...

Ok, so arent we getting a little trigger happy here? Arent long days good for the town? and wouldnt hammering so early be cuttign the day short and therefore make the day less helpful to the town? I am tempted to vote for earwig, but I am not sure how many votes he is at, and I dont want Rosso Hammering him just yet. Being that long days are good for the town, and hammering now would cut the day short, I think we need a bit more discussion. I think Earwig is scummy, for the lack of content, and for the defense of AC, but I am not entirely sure that he is scum, I dont know if scum would have been so obvious that they were defending their scum buddy, but then again, mafia is full of people doing unexpected things... so he very well could have. But then again, something that makes him jump significantly on my scum radar is the fact that he has been absentee here of late, now that people are putting pressure on him, he suddenly disappears...

For now

FOS: Earwig

I think everyone should say who they are suspicious of, like maybe the top three or something, that will allow us more information on people, plus it gives us something to talk about...

My suspicious are
1. IH
2. Earwig
3. Nabako (for Berry's actions)... (I am willing to let that go for now though...)

@IH-Being under the radar and lurking IMO are just about the same, if you are just hanging in there, not really saying anything of significance then it seems that you would have somethign to hide... and lurking, well we all know lurking isnt good. So, take your pick, were you flying under the radar or where you lurking? Either way IMO it is scummy. You look more and more scummy to me with every post...

Also, I need to take some time and check into connections with AC because he said he thought he ruined it for the town, so I need to look back and see if there are any scum connections...

[VitaminR]

Vote Count:

al4xz - 1 (Rosso Carne)
Earwig - 3 (spectrumvoid, IH, NabakovNabakov)
IH - 1 (kilmenator)

Not voting - 5 (al4xz, Earwig, Machiavellian-Mafia, Ripley, JDodge,)

10 alive, 6 to lynch

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

I'm real sorry about being MIA, expect something today.

[JDodge]

EBWOP- Caddock/MM, Ripley, and Jdodge and SV are next to come, then I want to take a look at possible connections with Acfan and Brewski, because upon looking to see if rules about deadline were posted because of the latest discussion, I found that Vitamin R said that the cop would have a headstart, whatever that means. So I want to look into Brewski and who he seems suspicious of and who he wasnt, as he could have had information about people.

What happened to this, anyways?

[spectrumvoid]

Kilem: According to your latest post, your case for IH is lurking. And you think "Earwig is scummy...etc". I'm wondering why you're placing a lurker (or a disappear-er) on a higher priority on your LOS as compared to someone who has exhibited genuine scum-tells.

[JDodge]

Now that I think about it...

3. Nabako (for Berry's actions)... (I am willing to let that go for now though...)

What did you mean by that?

[Earwig]

Sorry all, been busy with real life. There are other things other than this game, plus it was going pretty slow there for quite awhile. I had been checking daily, not seeing much so moved on. Anyway, I'm here. Now, I have to wonder why this:

get an earwig wagon going pleae.

Does this stem from my previous campaign against you? I had dropped mentioning it at SV's request, but am more than willing to take it up again. If you've got something to say Rosso, just fucking say it. You haven't hesitated before.

[Earwig]

Disclaimer: this post stems from RC's comment on Hammering...

I dont think anyone should hammer without more discussion...

............I think Earwig is scummy, for the lack of content, and for the defense of AC, but I am not entirely sure that he is scum, I dont know if scum would have been so obvious that they were defending their scum buddy, but then again, mafia is full of people doing unexpected things... so he very well could have. But then again, something that makes him jump significantly on my scum radar is the fact that he has been absentee here of late, now that people are putting pressure on him, he suddenly disappears...
............

When did I defend AC??

[NabakovNabakov]

^^^
Those two posts (could have been one) seem calculated to be at once belligerent ("If you have something to say, just fucking say it") and dismissive ("been busy in real life")

They do NOT seem to be a townie response to pressure.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Town:
Ripley - Most protown player in this game IMO
kilmenator, replacing now a ranger, replacing ubertimmy - Consistent participation and a lot of town tells.
spectrumvoid - same as kilmenator

Neutral:
NabakovNabakov, replacing Blackberry - Blackberry was pretty inactive and a many of his posts were about the mysterious scumtell on kilm, which IMO is BS. However Nabakov has already been better, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
Rosso Carne - He still has his consistent playstyle, but I haven't seen anything that tips him one way or the other yet.
JDodge - I don't find anything scummy about JDodge's actions during the deadline, in fact he requested a deadline extension initially.
IH - One minus for him is his lack of participation at the deadline yesterday. One plus for him is his efforts to catch up and defend himself.

Scum:
al4xz - I still like al just like yesterday. He has not made one post since April 7th, 2 months ago. He should be replaced.
Earwig - his defense of ac with the "I'm not sure I've seen enough to believe ac1983fan is scum. One rash statement isn't enough" statement yesterday and the fact that a lot of his posts lacks content (just like ac) makes him very likely scum.


I'm think earwig has 4 votes on him right now, so I would not vote earwig just yet because of rosso's threat to hammer.

[Earwig]

^^^
Those two posts (could have been one) seem calculated to be at once belligerent ("If you have something to say, just fucking say it") and dismissive ("been busy in real life")

They do NOT seem to be a townie response to pressure.

Unless it's a pissed off townie. What about Rosso's behavior? He seems a little anxious to lynch, after so much inactivity.

[Earwig]

...............Earwig - his defense of ac with the "I'm not sure I've seen enough to believe ac1983fan is scum. One rash statement isn't enough" statement yesterday and the fact that a lot of his posts lacks content (just like ac) makes him very likely scum.


I'm think earwig has 4 votes on him right now, so I would not vote earwig just yet because of rosso's threat to hammer.

At that time, I was only skimming through posts, not digging too deeply. I whole heartedly regret making that statement. ac was way to erratic to be anything but scum. I didn't switch my vote right at the end to him because I hadn't logged on in time. By the time I did, he had already been lynched.

[IH]

:teach: Rosso is always anxious for a lynch!

Second of all, lurking and staying under the radar are two different things. Staying under the radar would mean I was posting and reading the game, but not committing to anything, just giving the sense I was here.

Lurking is just not posting, not reading the game, just not being here.

Probably a big pst coming, and I won't be here from sunday-Friday

[Rosso Carne]

haha, ear, i dont hold grudges against people who attack me, i hold grudges against scum.

and everyone should know that he needs 36 hours at 5 votes before id HAMMAH! and thats the bare minimum.