Mini 452 NBA All-Stars Mafia-Game Over!

[Xdaamno]

That's a weak, weak excuse.

Lynch this guy please.

I see your points, but I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks about xyzzy before we make a move.

[YogurtBandit]

He's simply been very, very tentative about accusing anyone... that's my primary rationale.

So I changed my playstyle for this game.

I'd be a sucky player if I never did that.

Maybe because you are Mafia/Scum/The opponent/Kobe Bryant/bad guy and you needed to change your playstyle to seem more protown.

Unvote, Vote: Xzzy

[xyzzy]

He's simply been very, very tentative about accusing anyone... that's my primary rationale.

So I changed my playstyle for this game.

I'd be a sucky player if I never did that.

That's a weak, weak excuse.

Lynch this guy please.

Stop trying to tell the town what to do.

And you'll notice that in the two games so far in which I've died (N354 and M448), I've had an aggresive playstyle and I've been scum. So if you're argument is that I'm scum because that's not how I'm playing, then your logic is horribly flawed.

Flawed logic comes from deceitful purposes; deceitful purposes come from scum.

Unvote
Vote: Yogurt Bandit

[The Central Scrutinizer]

He's simply been very, very tentative about accusing anyone... that's my primary rationale.

So I changed my playstyle for this game.

I'd be a sucky player if I never did that.

That's a weak, weak excuse.

Lynch this guy please.

Stop trying to tell the town what to do.

And you'll notice that in the two games so far in which I've died (N354 and M448), I've had an aggresive playstyle and I've been scum. So if you're argument is that I'm scum because that's not how I'm playing, then your logic is horribly flawed.

Flawed logic comes from deceitful purposes; deceitful purposes come from scum.

Unvote
Vote: Yogurt Bandit

And bringing up your own playstyle differences isn't flawed? That's Grade-A 100% WIFOM. "I played like this in scum game A, no way I'm scum in this one!"

And why are you not voting for me? You're all over the place, man.

[xyzzy]

Because Yogurt Bandit was the one who said that I was changing my style to not look scummy.

And I fail to see how responding to WIFOM with WIFOM is that bad. If you want that kind of debate, I'm willing to have one, but don't say that I'm scummy for being like you, you know?

...Well, I mean, unless you like looking scummy. But that'd be stupid, eh?

[Xdaamno]

Honestly, I'd vote xyzzy here, but I'm just getting the feeling Yoghurt has slipped out off my radar when I hadn't really let off him IIRC. It's gut feeling more than anything else that's keeping me. Of course, if Yoghurt is scum, it's unlikely xyzzy is and vice versa (due to either way yoghurt would be voting his partner if they were both scum, though this is possible distancing of course, which means lynching Yoghurt/Xyzzy would be good anyway), so

FOS: Yoghurt/Xyzzy

[The Central Scrutinizer]

You know, xyzzy, you're right. I'm going to

unvote

.

[xyzzy]

(Oh, and that's beside the point that I can't die day 1. I'm always lynched day 2; I'm cursed. If I win, I either survive, or I die day 2. If I lose, I die day 2.)

[Haschel Cedricson]

FOS: McStab

[xyzzy]

FOS: McStab

Why?

[Xdaamno]

FOS: McStab

Why?

Isn't it obvious?

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP:

You know, xyzzy, you're right. I'm going to

unvote

.

This seems rather sudden. Was his argument really that persuasive?

[xyzzy]

He hasn't done anything startlingly bad; not active, but not scummy, either.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

EBWOP:

You know, xyzzy, you're right. I'm going to

unvote

.

This seems rather sudden. Was his argument really that persuasive?

No, I just did a reread and I don't feel comfortable with my vote anymore. Plus, I'm not that willing to wade into the WIFOM this early.

[McStab]

Sorry for being so inactive, I just generally don't post much day one, there's only minor missteps by the scum and/or townies, suspicions and random votes. Day two is much more interesting, and you can catch scum alot better, because who they kill in the night and who is lynched day one helps determine who's scum. I try to stay out of Day 1 because to me it's just a chance for a townie to be lynched quickly by a minor misstep. Now if something large happens, such as someone does a major scum tell, then I can see voting there, but until there's some evidence involving who got killed/lynched, I'm not really too active. I check the thread, I just don't see much to say.

[YogurtBandit]

Sorry for being so inactive, I just generally don't post much day one, there's only minor missteps by the scum and/or townies, suspicions and random votes. Day two is much more interesting, and you can catch scum alot better, because who they kill in the night and who is lynched day one helps determine who's scum. I try to stay out of Day 1 because to me it's just a chance for a townie to be lynched quickly by a minor misstep. Now if something large happens, such as someone does a major scum tell, then I can see voting there, but until there's some evidence involving who got killed/lynched, I'm not really too active. I check the thread, I just don't see much to say.

Well, If you dont care about Day 1,

Unvote, Vote Mcstab

[Xdaamno]

Mcstab, you really SHOULD care about day 1. Kills are NOWHERE near the only tells; look for who certain people attack and defend.

Infact, I'd like you to give us an analysis of a few players, if you don't mind.

[inHimshallibe]

Nekka-Lucifer (5): (MidnightSun, Fletcher, IH, A Papaya, Haut Boy)
^^ Making note of this for later reference.

Alright, it's apparent that Nekka-Lucifer is either very raw or very scummy, and it's possible that he's both. I really don't like his attempt to do some sort of word association thing on page 3; that strikes me as either an attempt to divert attention from himself or to encourage a quick day.

That being said, I'm not going to vote for him yet. I've learned my lesson about accidentally putting people at -1 from other games.

As for the other contributers so far: I get a vibe that xdaamno may be trying to hide in plain sight, but that's only a gut feeling and I'm not even going to make a formal FOS. I'll need to see more (preferably not about N-L) before making any further conclusions.

Really, besides the votes, this is the first truly scummy feel I've gotten from a post.

vote: HC

for now.

[inHimshallibe]

Questions: Does anyone know exactly why Nekka-Lucifer was kicked out? Can we get a quote? Is that against the rules?

Nekka-Lucifer was modkilled for out of thread communication (sending a PM about the game to A Papaya as mentioned earlier in the thread).

Midnight Sun (and StallingChamp) are currently banned from the site for the events of Newbie 377, and hence needed to be replaced.

I thought MidnightSun was someone else's sockpuppet. What did SC have to do with it?

Anyway, on topic, I think I'm going to

unvote, vote: xdaamno

. He deserves some pressure atm.

I agree.

unvote; vote: xdaamno

[inHimshallibe]

Welcome, inHimshallibe. And damn you for not having a convenient way to shorten your name.

Hi.

People find "inHim" works quite well.

[inHimshallibe]

Initial suspects include xdaanmo, xyzzy, and... interestingly enough... mlaker.

[A Papaya]

Sorry for being so inactive, I just generally don't post much day one, there's only minor missteps by the scum and/or townies, suspicions and random votes. Day two is much more interesting, and you can catch scum alot better, because who they kill in the night and who is lynched day one helps determine who's scum. I try to stay out of Day 1 because to me it's just a chance for a townie to be lynched quickly by a minor misstep. Now if something large happens, such as someone does a major scum tell, then I can see voting there, but until there's some evidence involving who got killed/lynched, I'm not really too active. I check the thread, I just don't see much to say.

What the hell?

Unvote (if voting); Vote: McStab

[Xdaamno]

Questions: Does anyone know exactly why Nekka-Lucifer was kicked out? Can we get a quote? Is that against the rules?

Nekka-Lucifer was modkilled for out of thread communication (sending a PM about the game to A Papaya as mentioned earlier in the thread).

Midnight Sun (and StallingChamp) are currently banned from the site for the events of Newbie 377, and hence needed to be replaced.

I thought MidnightSun was someone else's sockpuppet. What did SC have to do with it?

Anyway, on topic, I think I'm going to

unvote, vote: xdaamno

. He deserves some pressure atm.

I agree.

unvote; vote: xdaamno

Wait, where was that posted? I don't remember it... you changed your vote without anybody posting anything between.

I'm not sure what to think of McStab, but he's definatly worthy of a lynch if he dosen't start posting a LOT more.

[McStab]

Ok, I'll give a quick analysis....


I don't think that HC is scum. He just doesn't seem like he's giving scum vibes. Yogurt Bandit I don't like much, he seems to me to be a bit suspicious, but again, I don't have any proof, so I'm not going to vote him. Xdaamno I don't think is scummy, he seems to be in the spotlight alot, and that's something a scum wouldn't want to do. I'm not quite sure what to think of the other players, but i'll do a re-read of the game and post again.

[Xdaamno]

Ok, I'll give a quick analysis....


I don't think that HC is scum. He just doesn't seem like he's giving scum vibes. Yogurt Bandit I don't like much, he seems to me to be a bit suspicious, but again, I don't have any proof, so I'm not going to vote him. Xdaamno I don't think is scummy, he seems to be in the spotlight alot, and that's something a scum wouldn't want to do. I'm not quite sure what to think of the other players, but i'll do a re-read of the game and post again.

Thanks. That input will definatly be helpful later in the game, atleast.

You've just boosted the town's chances of winning. Wasn't so hard, was it?

I agree that HC is giving almost no vibes to me, so that's fine.

The thing is, we're almost never going to find any definative 100% proof that someone's a certain role on Day 1, so whether you have proof or not isn't a basis for not lynching someone. Of course, nobody should lynch him YET, but it's evidence, not proof we're looking for.