NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[Pine]

Prod on notscience too, please

[House]

Marquis

- Do you think PV is more likely to be scum or SK?

Would that be relevant?

It might provide insight into his other reads. If he thinks PV is the SK, I'd want to look at interactions between anyone else he lists as scum; on the other hand, if he lists PV as scum, we'd be able to look at PV's interactions with whoever else Marquis lists. Make sense?

I guess, still trying to wrap my head around how people say SK hunting is scummy, yet there's tons of SK hunting.

[notscience]

Should I L-1 PV

I want to L-1 PV

[shaddowez]

Should I L-1 PV

I want to L-1 PV

If you want to, why wouldn't you?

[notscience]

Because I have to decide if I'm going to use my doublevote or not to instahammer

[House]

Because I have to decide if I'm going to use my doublevote or not to instahammer

What?

[notscience]

Yeah, I'm actually a 1-shot doublevoter

Been saving it for a rainy day

[House]

Because I have to decide if I'm going to use my doublevote or not to instahammer

If you have some sort of ability that allows you to double vote, I'd save it.

Pine strikes me as the type to likely hammer if PerV goes to L-1.

[Marquis]

I should mention before I forget that the only reason I stopped focusing on my notscience scumread is because I had thought from a sudden next post of notscience's that seemed to be heavily crumbing something that he and Majiffy were linked or knew each other were town.

I do not have a notscience townread and thinking about it again in light of the Majiffy scumflip makes me think he's scum.

[House]

On the other hand, can scum have that ability? If not, it'd be a quick way to townfirm you.

[Marquis]

I voted notscience and expressed my scumread on him prior to the following:

You've officially lost your

"Can read NS" card btw

*whistling*

New page.

Post-Edit: I'm pretty sure I'm 100% for reading you, scumbird.

K marquis

it's your funeral

Oh no my secret identity has been revealed for the hundredth time

You should just give up on both fronts, kthxbye.

I've already given up

Majiffy, my love

I am afraid to inform you that I have yet again snowed you and am in fact scum. Please vote me accordingly.

VOTE: oka

Fuck you.

(directed at NS because I thought he this was a crumb for... *some* power role related to Majiffy)

Sorry that was mean.

I'm upset.

[notscience]

I asked for you to get this over with today

I'm not going to waste any more time with this

if you think I'm scum ML me tomorrow

I'm not sitting around until lylo to be lynched for the loss

pedit-

House you need to check your sarcasmdar

[House]

pedit-

House you need to check your sarcasmdar

How can I be expected to know what is/isn't possible in this game? I'm always running across things that I never knew existed.

[notscience]

Multivoter roles exist

But I have not ever seen one in a normal game

[House]

Multivoter roles exist

But I have not ever seen one in a normal game

Well since you were bullshitting about the ability, what's the real reason you're hesitating on PereV?

[notscience]

dunno, really

nervous about a selfhammer maybe?

[reinoe]

Multivoter roles exist

But I have not ever seen one in a normal game

In the game where I faked a cop guilty on scum, one of the players was doublevoter. And that game was mini-normal. This game is Large-Normal. I'm surprised the role doesn't show up more often in normals.

[House]

dunno, really

nervous about a selfhammer maybe?

Is that a statement or a question?

[notscience]

Little of both

Probably partially due to me always wanting to lynch PV

[House]

Little of both

Probably partially due to me always wanting to lynch PV

Fair enough.

[Skybird]

I've got no problem switching to PV.

House, Pine is seriously one of your town reads? I'm voting him because I'm doing my best to figure this all out and he's doing nothing to help except accuse me of sk hunting. When asked to show how I'm sk hunting instead of scum hunting, he tells me to read the "fucking thread". Is it an OMGUS vote? Maybe. But that doesn't make me scum. It makes me a frustrated player.

[reinoe]

Of the two wagons, I'm more comfortable with voting Mirhawk.

VOTE: Mirhawk

this slot is probably scum

I agree.

Reasonless vote on Mirhawk who is confirmed town...

tn5421 (LYNCH):

Mirhawk,

Alina, Shaddowez,

OkaPoka, reinoe, Titus,

Marquis,(Skybird)

the scum on this wagon could be...

Alina/OkaPoka/Skybird.


VOTE: Skybird

Updating this...yep my scumread on Skybird still feels right. I always scumhunt on the mislynch wagon I'm on when I know I'm town. I think Marquis is town but crazy. That leaves
Alina's slot, Shaddowez, and Skybird. Yeah Skybird looks like scum there. Like I said the TN wagon was way too fucking easy to push through. Although outside chance of Shaddowez scum.

I think sky is town. What are the arguments on him ( quote, post or give post number)

Generically...

skybird is struggling to get caught up (which could be true). As she's getting caught up she has nothing to add regarding her observations. She makes a few filler comments while getting caught up.

Also this from 3887...

For now, I'm looking at the people on the Aegor wagon. When you remove the known town and people that have claimed you are left with: zMuffinMan, Shaddowez, Mirhawk, reinoe, and notscience. Since Aeronaut was not on the wagon, I think there's a good chance that one of these 5 are scum. For now, I am removing Mirhawk from that list because I really haven't seen a good argument against him.

post 3935.

Of the two wagons, I'm more comfortable with voting Mirhawk.

VOTE: Mirhawk

She has nothing to say about anything but is comfortable with a vote on Mirhawk. Like fucking everyone else who's voting Mirhawk she can't be bothered to have a reason but she's most comfortable placing her vote on one of the leading wagons of the day. She went from "nothing scummy about Mirhawk" to "let me join the club and place another reasonless vote". Remarkable.

post 3943. She doesn't know if Mirhawk or PV are scum, but she's more than happy to vote without apparently getting fully caught up, or if she is fully caught up she has nothing to say about anything. Also magically she's super focused on Mirhawk and PV but has nothing to say about TN.

post 3946. Is a rather fluffy question that makes herself look busy?

I can compromise on a TN lynch. I think he's town though.

VOTE: TN

Lulz, he's town but I'm voting anyway.


p:edit

Reinoe can you answer me?

Jesus calm down.

Here's some more stuff about why Skybird probably scum.

There's two scum in Pere/zmuffin/Majiffy

Look at how impossible it was to wagon them compAres to the ease of the tn5421 Lynch.

Also nice gambit Titus.

tn5421 (LYNCH): Mirhawk, Alina, Shaddowez, OkaPoka, reinoe, Titus, Marquis,(Skybird)

the scum on this wagon could be...

Alina/OkaPoka/Skybird.

VOTE: Skybird

If you think there are two scum between Pere/zmuffin/Majiffy, why are you voting someone from your second group where you feel there is only one scum?

phone post...
I'm so glad you're able to crawl out of that rock and defend yourself, then go back under that rock. And without commenting on anything that's happeneD over the past three days.

This too.

SK HAS to be one of the following players.
MuffinMan
Majiffy
Peregrine
notscience
Shaddowez
RoyalApe
.

Re-reading Mirhawk's Iso he was chainsaw defending OkaPoka pretty hard. I suspect that he tracked OkaPoka and knew.

Also I suspect mirhawk tracked a bunch of people and since the SK is killing every night the above are people he had not yet tracked.

Interestingly enough. The list that Mirhawk presents here is full of the scummiest people in the game.

--->Peregrine, RoyalApe (Skybird), notscience<---
Two scum in here.

Hey peoples, you know that one player that everyone keeps calling scum but never gets lynched, but then at the end of the game they turn out to be scum? That's PeregrineV. He keeps getting called scum but never gets lynched.

VOTE: PeregrineV

yeah Mirhawk thanks for the clues about who could be SK. Skybird in that list.

VOTE: Pine

He's scum. I also think one of Psyche or Marquis is scum. PV is also scum.

Thinks PV is scum. Doesn't vote PV.

Please lynch Skybird tomorrow in case I'm night-killed. B.TW I did forget that you asked why I think you're scum.

I'll do it tonight.

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Anyway I think there's too much interference taking place on behalf of PeregrineV for him not to be scum. Why is he so hard to wagon and why was TN5421 so easy to wagon. Majiffy also impossible to wagon.

[Pine]

Because I have to decide if I'm going to use my doublevote or not to instahammer

If you have some sort of ability that allows you to double vote, I'd save it.

Pine strikes me as the type to likely hammer if PerV goes to L-1.

Still want my Psyche lynch, but I'll do it if need be

Srsly, Townies on PerV. Come over to the Psyche wagon


Scum can definitely have doublevoting, and in Normal games. Been there, done that, scum win. Scum tends to be the X-shot variety, though, a durable doublevoter is probTown. That said, still reasonably sure notscience is notscum

Reinoe, Skybird is pretty obvscum at this point. Give it a rest, we'll leave her to the SK and string her up if the SK doesn't take the free scumkill

[Pine]

Didn't finish my thought. Reinoe, come on over to the suspiciously slow-moving Psyche wagon. It's where the cool kids are

[Skybird]

Reineo and Pine, you are both wrong. I'm going to lmao at you all when I flip town.