Mini 453 [insert title here] -- MOD ABANDONED

[Guardian]

FOURTH VOTE COUNT

@the top of the page, even!

yellowbounder-1-remussaidow
Aceiks-1-Haut Boy

remussaidow-6-ChaosOmega, Sonicpulsar, yellowbounder, YogurtBandit, BeanBrew, Qman

with 12 alive, it will take 7 to lynch

this count is current as of post 124

[remussaidow]

Show me an actual attack against me, and I'll defend it.

[Teffc]

guys i have 1 more exam tomorrow and i will have time to post afterwards.

[YogurtBandit]

Yay its guardian! <3

Remus, Look around. everything is attacking you.

[remussaidow]

really?

I see a shitload of votes on me with no case. That's not an attack. Show me an ATTACK and I'll defend it. Otherwise, lynch me 'cause I don't know how to defend against what's not there.

[Aceiks]

There isn't much suspicious about an L-3, why the big fuss?

Why is L-3 too far?

@remus why is random voting helpful only to scum?
how did you move this game out of random voting?

A list of "attacks", or, as I would say, "questions you have not answered sufficiently quite yet".

But as a relief of the "attack Remus" monotony I would like to ask a question of Qman of why you completely misrepresented Remus in post 117

He will not claim no matter what

This isn't even close to what he said, as even a casual glance would indicate.

You're "I'm not going to vote until he has a chance to defend himself" stance seems like a ploy to allow yourself to vote for him no matter what he says.

[Aceiks]

And apparently I have no idea how to use "Your and you're". Apologies grammar police.

[remussaidow]

I have answered all of those in I believe post 110.

[TrustGossip]

I just got prodded.

Nothing important or significant has really happened since I last posted.

*rapidly grows bored again and leaves*

[BrazeGoesMoo]

Just got prodded as well. Been getting ready for and participating for the grads & dads fests last week and this. I'll post something meaningful tonight or so.

[yellowbounder]

I'm here, and I'll read and post something later today.

[YogurtBandit]

FOURTH VOTE COUNT

@the top of the page, even!

yellowbounder-1-remussaidow
Aceiks-1-Haut Boy

remussaidow-6-ChaosOmega, Sonicpulsar, yellowbounder, YogurtBandit, BeanBrew, Qman

with 12 alive, it will take 7 to lynch

this count is current as of post 124

Also, I think the pepole not voting are Aceiks, Trustgossip, Braze and someone else.

[Teffc]

guys i have a few problems with my exams and cannot keep up with the game .

Mod

,i need a replacement please

[Guardian]

I have posted in the replacement thread and am asking around Teffc, hopefully I will be able to get one for you soon.

[Guardian]

Eteocles

replaces

Teffc

, effective immediately. Thanks Eteocles!

[Eteocles]

Hai, post in a minute. I was told that this game needed a kick in the bee-hind. ^_^ I'll try my best.

[Eteocles]

Okay, Ill just be reading this and writing my thoughts as I come up with them.

First Page:

Just random votes, nothing to comment on.

However, there have been some sightings of French people. And people have been dying every night for a week now.

HEY! I take offense at that remark!

Second Page:

Homophobic vote on TG starts a bandwagon. I can't say that I am a big fan of random bandwagons, can be used by scum to pressure a roleclaim out of innocents, but they happen in almost every game. It is only at l-3 so we will see where it take us. Remu dislikes random bandwagoning while everyone else seems to find it alright.

Although, if he was was bandwagoned, and happened to be vig; and mafia and SK didn't crossfire the whole game, then it does get down to 1 town, 1 mafia and 1 SK on day 4. But this situation requires quite a few improbable events to occur all at once.

Whats with the speculation on the setup?

Troisieme Page:

Bandwagon starts to change to Remu. I don't think that disliking random bandwagoning is particularly scummy, but at least there is a point to this bandwagon.

Random voting is useful only to scum. So I moved the game out of that stage.

What exactly did you do again?

Fouth Page:

Braze thinks that SP's parenthesis are scummy? Ok... Both are kinda Wtfish. YellowB keeps posting he wants more substance without doing anything substantial himself besides bandwagon jumping.

BB and YogurtBandit tack on more votes to the Remus bandwagon and YogurtBandit asks for a roleclaim from Remus. I don't like this at all.

FoS: YogurtBandit

Page 5:

but still pointing a FOS at Aceicks for his roel fishing. and for the fact that in post #43 he wrote

Although I'm not sure I agree with your statement that L-3 is dangerous. With 4 scum (+- 1 I believe) if we see 3 bandwagon votes on Trust in the next two hours then that kind of gives us most of the information we need.

i kept wondering why he posted this part...because as long as we have mafia among us they'll know what you're thinking. unless you are linked to them and telling them not to vote in a very subtle way

I agree with this but for different reasons. His speculation on how many goons ther are troubles me.

well, Ace, reverse-reverse-reverse-...-reverse psychology sometimes works. if you feel that mafia would be too stupid for a 3 person bandwagon on day one and say it loud they might just do it. we do have a bandwagon on remus now? what do you think of that?

I would say: Wifom?: if this wasn't my predecessor >.<

Aceiks, I think you are doing far too much overspeculation, and worse it's incredibly specific and is mostly baseless or at least based upon information that you don't

or should not

have. That doesn't read well.

IGMEOY: Aceiks

Agreed and fixed.

I agree with Remu's post 110.

My current impression of remussaidow now is that he's either a townie that doesn't mind being lynched, or scum playing it that way...

So you say you think he is a townie, but you don't unvote. Nice.

Remus claims townie. Can't say what I really think about this, obviously townie is a safeclaim for scum, but it really doesnt warrant any suspicion right now.

Sixeme page:

Remus says he cannot deffend against random attacks. Ace gives him questions he has not answered. Remus says he has already answered these things. I believe he has too right?

People get prodded/replaced. People don't seem eager to post. (TG)


And that brings us up to now. Right now I could vote for Ace or YogurtBandit. Mebbe Ace cuz he already has one vote on him.

What the hell, why not?

Vote: Ace

Ps. If there are grammer/spelling police here, they are going to lynch me. >.<


Werdz.

[remussaidow]

I believe he has too right?

Please clarify what you mean by this-
Do you mean that you feel that I have or have not sufficiently answered these questions?

[Eteocles]

Eteocles wrote:
I believe he has too right?



Please clarify what you mean by this-
Do you mean that you feel that I have or have not sufficiently answered these questions?

I thought that you had answered the questions posted by Ace.

[Eteocles]

There prolly should have been a coma between "too" and "right". Meh...

[Qman]

UNvote

Giving a little breathing room.

[Eteocles]

UNvote

Giving a little breathing room.

Hmm... any reason for that besides "Giving a little breathing room"? That could be interpreted as scum backing off.

[Qman]

Yes and no.

1.) He's been at L-1 for a while and hasn't been lynched. Makes me suspect all the scum are on him already. Makes me less sure he's scum.
2.) Partly your post, I don't want to leave him at L-1 if discussion starts to pick up again, have someone hammer him and kill ongong discussion. That would suck since the game has been dead, I don't want to help stall it again. Heck the game died when I put him at L-1. This is the reason for the "breathing room" It's more for my comfort than his. If discussion doesn't pick up (I'm REALLY hoping it does with your post and the replacement) I'll put the vote back on him, I just don't want the replacement coming in and hammering first post.
3.) I think you're correct, Remus did answer the questions, I thought he had just avoided them but on re-read, he did, though I'm still not fully satisfied, I'm not willing to lynch him right now.

[Eteocles]

Hm. Fair enough...

[Aceiks]

Eteocles, welcome and thank you for the posts.

I believe I have discussed my reasons for my so-called speculation and showed why it shouldn't be considered speculation anyways. I have seen, through viewing past games in the Little Italy room, that a red count of 4+-1 is standard for a game of this size, which is where I got that number.

I would challenge that if you aren't thinking about possible game scenarios, then you aren't fully considering the consequences of the actions you perform in the game. I apologise for saying my thoughts outloud.