Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

[mastin2]

Urge to prod players rising.
Must. hold. back. to avoid charges. of. hypocrisy.

Tenth Votecount

:

shos - 4 (Jackel98, ProHawk, pirate mollie, Sonic Boom)

Bulbazak - 2 (EddieFenix, shos)

Voidedmafia - 1 (Nazarene)
Jackel98 - 1 (Voidedmafia)
ProHawk - 1 (Doyouthinkhesaurus)
Sonic Boom - 1 (ika)
ika - 1 (BBMolla)
Sonic Boom - 1 (Bulbazak)
EddieFenix - 1 (DrippingGoofBall)

All votes are in play.

With

13

alive, it's

7

to lynch.
Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

shos - 4 (Jackel98, ProHawk, pirate mollie,

Sonic Boom

)
Bulbazak - 2 (EddieFenix, shos)
Jackel98 - 1 (Voidedmafia)
Voidedmafia - 1 (Nazarene)
ProHawk - 1 (Doyouthinkhesaurus)
Sonic Boom - 1 (ika)
ika - 1 (BBMolla)
Sonic Boom - 1 (Bulbazak)
EddieFenix - 1 (DrippingGoofBall)

Not Voting - 0 (

Sonic Boom

)

Last votecount was page 13, post 302.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D1

shos:

Nazarene->Jackel98->Bulbazak

Nazarene:

pirate mollie->shos->Voidedmafia

Voidedmafia:

Nazarene->ProHawk->shos->Jackel98

Sonic Boom:

Jackel98->

UNVOTE

->shos

Bulbazak:

Nazarene->Voidedmafia->Sonic Boom

EddieFenix:

Bulbazak

ProHawk:

shos->pirate mollie->shos

ika:

Sonic Boom

Doyouthinkhesaurus:

Nazarene->ProHawk

BBMolla:

DrippingGoofBall->ika

pirate mollie:

Voidedmafia->Jackel98->Voidedmafia->shos

Jackel98:

BBMolla->shos

DrippingGoofBall:

EddieFenix->pirate mollie->

UN-VOTE

->EddieFenix

Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1

On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:21p,

Nazarene

Votes

pirate mollie

in post 54.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:22p,

Doyouthinkhesaurus

Votes

Nazarene

in post 55.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 05:58p,

Voidedmafia

votes

Nazarene

in post 59.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 07:57p,

Jackel98

Votes

BBMolla

in post 71.
On Wed, Nov 11/05/14 @ 08:25p,

Bulbazak

votes

Nazarene

in post 72.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 12:46a,

shos

Votes

Nazarene

in post 83.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 06:44a,

ProHawk

Votes

shos

in post 99.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 07:05a,

EddieFenix

votes

Bulbazak

in post 100.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 01:37p,

Vodedmafia

votes

ProHawk

in post 108.
On Thu, Nov 11/06/14 @ 03:43p,

DrippingGoofBall

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 115.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 05:10a,

Nazarene

Votes

shos

in post 120.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 01:21p,

Jackel98

Votes

shos

in post 130.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 03:06p,

Voidedmafia

votes

shos

in post 133.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 08:27p,

pirate mollie

Votes

Voidedmafia

in post 138.
On Fri, Nov 11/07/14 @ 08:32p,

BBMolla

Votes

DrippingGoofBall

in post 139.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 04:31a,

Nazarene

Votes

Voidedmafia

in post 160.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 12:01p,

Bulbazak

unvotes, and votes

Voidedmafia

in post 169.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 02:13p,

Doyouthinkhesaurus

unvotes

Nazarene

and votes

ProHawk

in post 178.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 06:45p,

ika

Votes

Sonic Boom

in post 183.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 08:34p,

BBMolla

Unvotes, and Votes

ika

in post 188.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:33p,

ProHawk

Votes

pirate mollie

in post 190.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:34p,

pirate mollie

Votes

Jackel98

in post 192.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 09:53p,

Sonic Boom

Votes

Jackel98

in post 193.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 11:14p,

Bulbazak

unvotes, and votes

Sonic Boom

in post 201.
On Sat, Nov 11/08/14 @ 11:16p,

Voidedmafia

votes

Jackel98

in post 202.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 12:10p,

DrippingGoofBall

Votes

pirate mollie

in post 224.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 07:22p,

pirate mollie

Votes

Voidedmafia

in post 238.
On Sun, Nov 11/09/14 @ 10:06p,

ProHawk

Votes

shos

in post 248.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 03:26a,

shos

Votes

Jackel98

in post 252.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 11:37a,

Sonic Boom

unvotes in post 267.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 03:23p,

shos

Votes

Bulbazak

in post 281.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 06:14p,

DrippingGoofBall

Unvotes in post 290.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 06:16p,

DrippingGoofBall

Votes

EddieFenix

in post 291.
On Mon, Nov 11/10/14 @ 08:49p,

pirate mollie

Votes

shos

in post 297.
On Tue, Nov 11/11/14 @ 05:05a,

Sonic Boom

Votes

shos

in post 306.

<<< guille will show up in Molla's place the votecount after he posts. >>>

[DrippingGoofball]

Alright lads, now that I've served all my papers for uni for this week, and that I've eaten, drank, took a dump(not really) and cleaned my room(LOL OBVIOUSLY NOT REALLY), I'm going to take care of other games(especially the one I'm modding) and then I'll be here to enjoy my obvtown status

Some reads would be nice after so sober up.

[shos]

Oh man I forgot ._. Well shit, I will do it tomorrow.

[guille2015]

Ok, I'm here.

I have been following along a bit.

Shos is scum along with Sonic Boom and Ika (cause anybody that makes colorful list has to be scum, amiright!!)

Vote Shos

Peace

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

shos and Voided are still town, shos is lynchbait, please get off his wagon.

guille, your reads suck. Please explain them.

[guille2015]

but I'm right about Sonic boom and Ika right?

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

Doesn't matter if you're right (I somewhat agree on Sonic), you need to explain them. The reads suck across the board.

[guille2015]

Actually, I have seen nothing from Shos that make me think he is town. His excuse is that he has little time and stuff like that. But town players even when they have little time, actually do stuff, even if just a little.

[guille2015]

Fine Fine,
My shos explanation is Up there. I'll get into more detail in a little while.

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

So because nothing makes you think he's town, he must be scum?
Whaaa?

Also Sonic and ika? Your ika read sounds like you're in friggin RVS.

Edit: Not an explanation.

[Voidedmafia]

Ok, I'm here.

I have been following along a bit.

Shos is scum along with Sonic Boom and Ika (cause anybody that makes colorful list has to be scum, amiright!!)

Vote Shos

Peace

Welp, this post sucks. And not just because it's an out-of-the-blue "X is scum" with no real reason behind that I'd probably have immediately voted/suspected for before.

but I'm right about Sonic boom and Ika right?

As Saurus said, so what? (you're wrong on ika, though).

So because nothing makes you think he's town, he must be scum?
Whaaa?

Also Sonic and ika? Your ika read sounds like you're in friggin RVS.

Edit: Not an explanation.

Saurus, quit making posts that I must parrot because of their truthiness!

Also, guile, I'd say uni stuff is a bit more time-intensive than most things (other than a job or project you're working on, maybe). That's not really a

good

reason in the first place because that only works if the lack of participation is because there is a measure of non-want there. Or, in a possibly better-worded situation, it only works if the player in question is using their "little time to play" excuse as a reason to not play, rather than as an explanation for why they're doing what little they have been.

[guille2015]

Your annoying.

Ok,

Ika posts a colorful list but has no explaination, Basically the same problem your having with me. That's not particularly a problem. However, his eventual reads least is nothing more than his opinion on how he metas the players and even with the ones that are not meta, he practically says nothing.

So after several posts He has only pushed for Sonic Boom and Has not given an explanation.

Sonic boom, has not contributed anything yet. His Jackal vote is following everybody who was wrong about Jackal then switches votes to Shos and does nothing more.

Shos basically comes down to Not doing much. And I've played with Shos and he is not Lynchbait. I either expect him to return to the game Guns a blazing with Towniness or with a crappy post with no significant contribution. L-2 says he'll do it faster.

And yes I am aware that all three of my scum reads have voiced their opinion against each other. But that's how I saw it.

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

You'd think Voided would've stopped buddying me after being called out on it, lol.

guille, ika does that like every game. He takes the playerlist and

randomly

colours it however he wants and says those are his reads. It's some kind of reaction test. ika is playing EXACTLY to his town meta.

I feel like if anything ProHawk's contributed less than shos, but that's just me.

[guille2015]

Yeah yeah, I know my first post sucks. Stop rubbing it in will ya!

Also, guile, I'd say uni stuff is a bit more time-intensive than most things (other than a job or project you're working on, maybe). That's not really a good reason in the first place because that only works if the lack of participation is because there is a measure of non-want there. Or, in a possibly better-worded situation, it only works if the player in question is using their "little time to play" excuse as a reason to not play, rather than as an explanation for why they're doing what little they have been.

Oh I know what it is to be busy. And I know how it is to be scum and busy vs being Town and busy. The latter is much easier. I don't understand the last part. If I understand correctly it depends on the motivation sensed in the posts? Hmmm. I'll consider it.

[guille2015]

guille, ika does that like every game. He takes the playerlist and randomly colours it however he wants and says those are his reads. It's some kind of reaction test. ika is playing EXACTLY to his town meta.

I have never played or meta Ika.

Does he do that as scum too? Cause if he doesn't then he is a terrible player.

[Voidedmafia]

You'd think Voided would've stopped buddying me after being called out on it, lol.

Hey, I agree with what I think is right, not necessarily what furthers my goal and/or my alignment's wincon. It (maybe?) helps that you just articulated my thoughts as I read guile's posts in a way that is better explained than how I would've.

Oh I know what it is to be busy. And I know how it is to be scum and busy vs being Town and busy. The latter is much easier. I don't understand the last part. If I understand correctly it depends on the motivation sensed in the posts? Hmmm. I'll consider it.

You are correct, it does depend on motivation.

Here's some extra motivation!

Vote: Guille

Does he do that as scum too? Cause if he doesn't then he is a terrible player.

I vaguely recall this when I read over X-Men: Age of Apolocalypse, but can anyone who was either in most of the game or watched most/all of it please confirm if he did that in that game?

[DrippingGoofball]

I think Voidedmafia is scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

A lot of his posts are about himself, which nag me as a kind of avoidance.

[pirate mollie]

A lot of his posts are about himself, which nag me as a kind of avoidance.

^ I agree with this. I am telling you he had srs playstyle issues with me and I don't see that changing after a break.

do you wanna lynch him?

[Voidedmafia]

A lot of his posts are about himself, which nag me as a kind of avoidance.

^ I agree with this. I am telling you he had srs playstyle issues with me and I don't see that changing after a break.

do you wanna lynch him?

And now that you say that you don't see it changing you're potentially forever blinding yourself to any time I

do

try to reconcile my play with your play so that we can have a positive experience because you're too afraid that I'm just going to brush you off again so instead of risking that it'll happen again (and I won't say that it will never happen because circumstances might just align so that at a later point I'm too angry or otherwise unhappy at non-game issues to properly address how you play in a positive, salient manner) you're just going to pre-emptively say "Nope, never gonna work, not gonna try" which serves...nobody.

Yes, I can see it quite clearly. I do that far too often than I should, and that's almost the

exact same

rationalizations I use IRL. Be better than me.

Also, DGB, I extended an open question to everyone in the game to start dialogue with me. Instead of essentially complaining about my self-centered posting so far you could've instead tried to get me to post about other things in the game. But, even if this can be construed as trying to appease you, here's a couple questions for you in particular:

1.) What about EddieFenix right now makes you feel like he's the right person to vote? His lack of presence?
2.) Re-explain to me why you think Nazarene is town.
3.) When you asked if I felt like you were calling me scum when you said I wasn't feeling town, why didn't you follow up on my response? Did you not mean to follow up?
4.) Ignoring the current spat of me-posts (from the big rant onwards), what is your read on me? Or, I suppose, how did my recent bunch of posts about myself change your read on me before I started doing that?
5.) What are your thoughts on guille now that he's made some posts (this goes for Mollie, too)?
6.) What are your reads on Ika, Sonic Boom, and Saurus and why? (also goes for Mollie! And probly bulb, too. Really goes for everyone other than those mentioned, but yknow.)

[Voidedmafia]

A lot of his posts are about himself, which nag me as a kind of avoidance.

Here's another one I just thought of: Why did you think I was attempting to avoid discussion when (from my PoV) one of the main points of the rant was to give you all a better way to interact with me and for me to interact with you and the game?

[DrippingGoofball]

1.) What about EddieFenix right now makes you feel like he's the right person to vote? His lack of presence?

Lack of presence that that shameful Bulbazak vote.

2.) Re-explain to me why you think Nazarene is town.

He voted shos, then backed off in a credible way. I like this.

3.) When you asked if I felt like you were calling me scum when you said I wasn't feeling town, why didn't you follow up on my response? Did you not mean to follow up?

I was hoping you'd answer something less guarded, but at the same time I kept that guarded-ness in the back of my mind as ever so slightly scummy.

4.) Ignoring the current spat of me-posts (from the big rant onwards), what is your read on me? Or, I suppose, how did my recent bunch of posts about myself change your read on me before I started doing that?

You make me uneasy.

5.) What are your thoughts on guille now that he's made some posts (this goes for Mollie, too)?

mollie = slight town, and I like guille for town, too.

6.) What are your reads on Ika, Sonic Boom, and Saurus and why? (also goes for Mollie! And probly bulb, too. Really goes for everyone other than those mentioned, but yknow.)

Bulb is so town he should be doc-protected. I am ignoring saurus' reads because this type of reasoning doesn't appeal to me, but prob town. Sonic Boom could be scum, I don't see a lot of townthink in his posts. Ika is giving reads, which is good, but not truly interacting with the game, which is less good.

Scum is in EddieFenix, SonicBoom, VoidedMafia, Ika.

[ProHawk]

I don't want to lynch Voided.

And I've played with Shos and he is not Lynchbait.

I second the above statement.

Dino-Boy. You'll have to get over that someday.

[ProHawk]

ika is playing EXACTLY to his town meta.

That doesn't bother you at all?

[Bulbazak]

What are your reads on Ika, Sonic Boom, and Saurus and why?

Ika is null. I haven't seen anything to make me lean town or scum on him, and I don't want to rush into a townread after Binding of Isaac. Sonic is scum. MS in particular is not impressing me, and both players in that hydra should be hitting me over the head with their towniness by now. I don't buy the meet excuse. That doesn't go for both heads, and Titus has done zilch since then. As for the Dino, logic says town, gut says scum. I'm unable to reconcile the two, so I'm leaving them alone for now.