Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

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/CONFIRM MUDDAFOCKAAAA

<<< Mud focks! >>>

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LOL does everyone else have a role that makes the other side auto-lose because it's so crazy overpowered?

^The WIFOM is strong.

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This just in: Tier is scum with the dinosaur.

What do you think that I think that you are doing?

You know exactly what I'm doing, don't tell the scum. They're stupid. They have no idea.

Knowing the other head, he's going to have tons of questions about what you guys are talking about.
What are you talking about?
Bulba, where'd your reads come from? I pointed out the WIFOM because I was under the impression it was a joke.

Tier's 32 is a bit overeager IMO, I can agree with a slight scumread. I don't see how it relates to DGB, however.

Edit: Bulbazak, why do you suspect TS?

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Thank you!.

So, lads, have we got any leads to investigate? Any reason why currently silent players are currently silent?
Why talking players are talking?

Conspiracy theories welcome!

Is this a serious post then?

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Hey, this is BMWS checking in for the first time. Im on mobile right now, but this looks to be a fun game
TAUUUUUU

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My partner above is the good cop. Metaphorically. I'm probably going to be the more active one while his posts will be wallier.

VOTE: Nazarene
for post 32 and complaining about scumreads during confirmation stage. Bulba's issue with his only being concerned about the scumread on him I can see. And yeah, could be a joke, but it's a lead.

Nazarene

, what's your read on Bulba?

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ika

, please claim this role in your next post or I will lynch you myself.

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Hahaha. That's def gonna happen.

And I'm not saying anything, I was thinking about hammerers in other BM games and then I realised you were here . Not gonna get pissy with you and derail the game again, no worries.

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I agree, but I didn't want to say anything to see if he'd continue displaying slight buddying behaviour. It's possible that we've arrived at the same conclusions with similar trains of thought, of course.

mollie, whatcha think of what happened last page with Bulba, TS, and DGB?

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VOTE: naz

Been long since I mislynched you.

Can I assume TS isn't usually like this?

@Bulbazak: Yes, only one-shot. I appear as scum one time only.

I buy it.

@Bulba

: I'm asking if your read on TS had anything to do with what DGB was doing or his reaction to her.

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You surely have got an opinion on jackel's claim, haven't you?

What's yours?

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@Fenix: ^Why this vote?

@Mod: Can I have a funny dinosaur joke?

<<< I'm sorry, but dinosaur jokes are a thing of the past. I'm not going to revive that fossil. I'd say they're so dead, they're extinct! >>>

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Hmm. I hate to try to second-guess what roles there might be but it looks like shos is

trying

to get himself killed here. He's literally made 10 fluffposts out of 14 total, voted Naz without reason, setup specced the number of cops, hinted at a policy lynch after saying he believes the claim, and is willfully ignoring the material we have this game. Oh and 123 was terrible.

I feel like scum-shos is better than this. Literally every post he's made this page is scummy in some way. I don't buy it.

Thoughts anyone?

@Mod: omfg that vc

<<< I take it you like it, then.
...Crap. >>>

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Is the answer going to be significant/not full of WIFOM?

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What kind of wincon is he playing towards, then? Seems a bit more likely that Shos is trying to do as little as possible to survive as long as possible.

I don't know. But his play even after suspicion is put on him reads like he's trying to get votes, and I don't want to be a part of that. Maybe there's an ability that activates with votes, or that has to do with death. If you guys want to vote him, by all means.

Is the answer going to be significant/not full of WIFOM?

You really like invoking WIFOM, don't ya?

Nah, but I like pointing out pointless questions. How bout this:

shos, early reads on Bulba, Naz, and Voided?

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@BBMolla: Are you being serious?

If you are, let's not focus on that today and leave DGB to any investigative roles. I'd have a hard time believing there's a 1-shot miller without a cop.

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Which is why I'm not sure you're serious; can't tell if you don't know we already got out of RVS.

jackel is presumably a 1-shot miller.

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@Bulbazak: Yes, only one-shot. I appear as scum one time only.

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@Nazarene

: Please explain your vote.

@DGB

: Okay I could theoretically see Fenix being scum if his vote was actually serious, but Molla being scum with him and voting you for that is kinda stretching it. I mean it's pretty obvious Molla didn't even read the thread (or the rules, for that matter).
It looks like if Molla's not reaction testing though, today's gonna end up as a 1v1 between you two. The rules say that all information in one's initial role PM is correct.
Why is Nazarene town, DGB?

@BBMolla

: Did you get the DGB information in your

initial

role PM? Or was it in a later PM?

@Sonic

: Reads? Just because this is BM doesn't mean setup spec replaces that (that goes to everyone).

On a sidenote, not sure I like Voided's blind acceptance of DGB's scenario. Still think shos is trying to grab votes. ika's probably town. Sonic saying Jackel's 'probably scum' is too confident. Fenix and mollie lean townish.

Edit: goddammit bulba ninjaing all my thoughts wtf

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

SPECIAL GAME RULE:

I 100% guarantee you that the information in your

initial

PM is correct. I also will guarantee that moderator answers to any hypothetical role interactions are as closely possible to 100% accurate as well. Furthermore, I guarantee no alignment/role changes and no third parties. I will make no guarantees beyond that, thus, consider this game to be "bastard".

• Seriously, by signing up to play this game, you're agreeing to throw out any expectation of balance or sense. This game's purely for the fun of it, so really, really don't take it too seriously. (That having been said, DO play to your wincon, please.)

I don't believe it DGB, not at the moment, but only because I'm not sure. This game could be swingy and unbalanced. Which is why I'm asking Molla to elaborate. Would prefer not to make assumptions here.

Regardless, that's irrelevant to Nazarene.

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^This is a terrible post. Mollie has very much produced content. The least you could do is give basic reads.

UNVOTE: Voided
VOTE: ProHawk

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EBWOP: UNVOTE: Nazarene
VOTE: ProHawk
whoops name fail

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@Voided, Mollie, Boom: Ehhh, jackel is correct that it'd be a pretty unlikely move to claim miller, play badly, and then only mention the scumteam. 189 is something I could vote for but 198 puts things in perspective a bit. A move like that just doesn't seem reasonable yet, and I'm not up for PLing him.

@Molla: Molla, answer my questions if you weren't joking. Was the DGB information in your

initial

role PM or in a different one?
ika is probably town, yeah. He has a very distinct town meta and a very distinct scum meta. Bad reads for ika is not alignment indicative.

@Nazarene: Because in a bastard game, 1-shot miller is basically VT and doesn't affect the game at all. That seems pretty dumb to add a modifier like that to a VT is all.

@Sonic Boom: Stop fluffing up the game; at least, when you do fluff it up, provide content with your posts. I understand Bulba's vote here.

Still think shos is attracting votes. mollie and Bulba are still town. Keeping vote on ProHawk until he explains his vote and provides content. And I agree with whoever that while Fenix's last post was kinda bad, it doesn't read scummy. That said, I want reads from Fenix other than talking about DGB and Bulba.

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I second ika's request for a case on jackel. Pretty sure I know what people are seeing but I want people to explain it anyway.

I like how ProHawk still isn't producing anything.

Not commenting on Voided vs mollie quite yet, wanna see how this plays out. Can either of you link the games you played together just for reference?

Edit: Oh, okay, there you are. Your reaction test sucks. My townread on mollie isn't strong enough that I'm gonna start WKing her, sorry. All a naked vote does is make you suspicious.
On mollie prior to the Voided conflict: 69 points out something new, 98 is a good question, 192 provides something new and opens it to discussion, and 166 gives reads.
All of which you haven't done, ProHawk.

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Okay first of all, shos is town. This should be readily apparent at 252. ika is also town as of his reads lists; he does that a lot. It's a terrible reaction test, but whatever. Town. Nazarene on the other hand is leaning townier as of late.

Voided, your general logic surrounding shos and jackel suck, tbh. The whole 'stepping away from claim and signalling partners' just doesn't seem like a sensible scenario.

@Nazarene: Fair enough on the miller/no-cop point.

The shos wagon atm is making me really uncomfortable, specifically when it comes to ProHawk, mollie, and Sonic. I'll keep my vote where it is until we get a VC.

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this is probably a result of me not yet being in the game. It takes me a while to remember by heart the players in the game, so in this case, I glossed and spit my opinions, and it didn't occur to me that the same person is the one who claimed 1s miller.

I would come and say that, at least for now, the 1s-miller claim prevails over that scumpost, so he'll stay in the townpile. This is an issue of the ones I like to call negligible because it'll solve itself with time.

Voided, I think this should explain your misgivings about shos and his jackel issues.

Anyway, let's not vote Voided for meta, shall we? It's pretty clear that's not going to work here.

To those who think he's scum,

where's the scum motivation in his posts? What, independently of what you know about him, seems scummy to you? Because I haven't seen that adequately explained.

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Can you try to explain to me why Shos votes suck? (this also goes to Saurus, too; I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to read in 252 that's town unless you're referring to his tone)

Yo, sorry, you should put my name at the beginning of a line or bold it so I don't accidentally ignore it

Basically, 252's whole "I hadn't considered that angle on my posts until Dino pointed it out" is incredibly town to me, I'd have expected scum to at least defend it or show some semblance of self-awareness. Furthermore a lot of it is in fact explained by his LA, including the jack(el)pedalling.

Goddammit, was hoping I wouldn't do that.

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@ProHawk: Yeah, until the wagon hopping. I am capable of changing my mind, you know.

@Bulba: You make good points on Voided, I'll keep that in mind. Want to see his response.
It doesn't really matter to me whose post shos was talking about; what matters is his being completely unaware and not even bothering to defend what he's done. It just doesn't strike me as something scum would do.

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shos and Voided are still town, shos is lynchbait, please get off his wagon.

guille, your reads suck. Please explain them.

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Doesn't matter if you're right (I somewhat agree on Sonic), you need to explain them. The reads suck across the board.

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So because nothing makes you think he's town, he must be scum?
Whaaa?

Also Sonic and ika? Your ika read sounds like you're in friggin RVS.

Edit: Not an explanation.

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You'd think Voided would've stopped buddying me after being called out on it, lol.

guille, ika does that like every game. He takes the playerlist and

randomly

colours it however he wants and says those are his reads. It's some kind of reaction test. ika is playing EXACTLY to his town meta.

I feel like if anything ProHawk's contributed less than shos, but that's just me.

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Why are we still L-1ing an un-cc'd cop?

Catching up, been inactive on my hydra games.

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@guille: I don't know if ika colours up reads lists like that as scum. Either way, it's a nulltell. Seems to be a personal preference for him. Why is ProHawk town?

I don't see why people still think Fenix's vote on Bulba is in any way scummy. 389 explains it fairly well.

ika is still town. Don't vote for playstyle, nothing he's done has shown scum motivation. I think we should hold off on him until we have flip associations to make, since he's somewhat hard to read.

istott's pretty much definitely town. shos pointed it out in 428.

guille's 434 is pinging me. "OK, [shos is] off the hook for now... If you keep it up, I won't consider you scum anymore." Really not liking guille at this point.

Okay I'm reading through MS's cop claiming extravaganza, and I agree that he's doing it extremely scummily (probably trying to not draw the NK), but if he's not CC'd I think we're good when it comes to him. Like I said a while ago, 1-shot miller implies the presence of a cop. Wtf with Fenix townreading Sonic until AFTER the cop claim? Explain yourself, Fenix.
UNVOTE: ProHawk
^This saddens me, nothing ProHawk's done has made his slot any townier.
VOTE: EddieFenix

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The wording makes your scumread on shos seem fake. That, and telling him what to do to make him seem less scummy. It's like you're asking shos to do something that'll keep you off his wagon.

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Did ProHawk just vote me the moment it would no longer be perceived as an OMGUS?

Are you kidding me?

If I was the first scummy one that stuck out, you've made absolutely 0 indication of that. You also have no reasons that I'm scummy other than saying it's pretty reasonable to assume that there's probably a cop and that Sonic's telling the truth if he's not CC'd.

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@ProHawk: Yet you have nothing except your "anyone who setup specs at all is scum" logic. You literally said I'm the first person who spec'd that you found scummy. So why did you wait until now to vote me? I've talked about the setup before.
You're avoiding OMGUS accusations.

@istott: Just have anyone with a kill ability not use it and we'll know by tomorrow. It's pretty simple.

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I honestly thought the Sonic wagon disbanded but mastin proved me wrong. Are you guys kidding me?

<<< Hey, while as a player I pride myself on mistakes, as a moderator I take pride in preventing them! >>>

How the hell are they still at L-2 when Voided, mollie, Nazarene AND Fenix have all posted since the claim?

@Bulba: Why not vote Fenix? You've said zilch on why he's town between your Fenix vote and your ika vote. Hell, the post right before your last one you called him scum. What changed?
Just want to say that if I unvote Fenix I'll go back to ProHawk. Can build a case if anyone wants but this doesn't seem like a very case-y game.

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ProHawk's entire ISO:

99, RVS or unexplained vote on shos, says not to kill Nazarene arbitrarily.
142 says he'll "try not to tunnel on Voided".
173 is fluff.

At this point ProHawk has produced 0 content and mollie calls him out on it. He proceeds to try to tell her she hasn't either when she clearly has, as I pointed out. Deflection of suspicion. 180 says he has no reads and then 190 is a naked vote on mollie.

239 is fluff. 240 is more fluff. 243 says the vote on mollie was

a reaction test

for the people townreading her and that he basically found out nothing. Back to square one. 244 repeats the question to me of what content mollie produced.

246 is deflection of my suspicion. I tell him he's producing no content, he just says I'm beating the same drum.
Funny thing is, that hadn't changed.
248 is going back to the shos wagon, no explanation.

293 is legitimately fluff beetlejuicing. Wth?
Now getting to the part with actual content:

I'm getting strange vibes from shos, like not town-vibes. Also, up until his vote, the general vote pool has been spread thin. No-real-wagons. Could be trying to start something.

This is meaningless.

I'm getting strange vibes from shos, like not town-vibes. Also, up until his vote, the general vote pool has been spread thin. No-real-wagons. Could be trying to start something.

wouldn't it be easier for scum to join a wagon at this point?

He did, on Jackal. And then called Jackal 100-percent town.

This was already disproven.

In other news, Ika said he can "solve" you. How does that make you feel?

This is a terrible line of questioning.

336 is a clarification question, null.

See... that actually was the game I was going to compare it to, and it actually doesn't remind me of it at all. Maybe cause you had scum-blinders on? What part about it reminds you of the same Shos?

Okay question.

shos wagon is not good. More later.
-A

From what I recall, you and I didn't get along much. Call Tier over.

Useless, refusing to interact with a player.

specifically when it comes to ProHawk, mollie, and Sonic.

Werent you all lovey dovey with Mollie earlier?

Terrible line of questioning along with misrepping what was explicitly a slight townread. This question reads like he's trying to suspect me for changing my mind.

I don't want to lynch Voided.

And I've played with Shos and he is not Lynchbait.

I second the above statement.

Dino-Boy. You'll have to get over that someday.

Useless statement, sheeping, and deflection.

ika is playing EXACTLY to his town meta.

That doesn't bother you at all?

Prohawk, isn't playing to your townmeta generally a good thing? (not that I'm disallowing the thought of very good scum acting as their town selves, but what gives you the notion that it's somehow scum impersonation than genuine?)

The key word is EXACTLY... good scum are exacting.

This is just dumb and arguing over my semantics.

You all will regret disbanding the Shos wagon.

I am prophesying Voided. Quiet.

I don't even know what this is.

And I already commented on his last two posts.

ProHawk has been useless and fluffy and has repeatedly deflected my suspicion for producing no content with... more of no content. Every statement he's made on the game has been a statement someone else has already said, he tunneled shos when it was cool to do so and his vote for mollie only lasted long enough to see that no one cared for it.
Also his lines of questioning suck.
There is 0 reason to think ProHawk is town.

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I'm also kind of bewildered that I've legitimately been the ONLY one (since Voided's vote) to notice him and the problem with him up until shos's vote on him.
I don't recall anyone paying any attention to my claims that he's done nothing.
This troubles me.

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You can say it's pretty good.

Hey Dino.

Can you do the same exercise you did with EddieFenix that you did with proHawk?

The only reason I made a case on ProHawk is because no one goddamn noticed him coasting the entire game.

I'm pretty sure everyone knows why Fenix is scum. He townread Sonic up until the cop claim and then put him at L-1. But sure, if I find time, then yeah.

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dino was doing PbPA. According to something i read somewhere by someone in some site, PbPA usually isn't good

Well, when literally every post fits the fact that he's provided nothing this entire game but fluff, sheeping, and deflection, I'd say there exists a pattern. It's not like I used PbPA to come to this conclusion, I've been saying it since like his 5th post. Go ISO him if you want. Show me how he's contributed.

Edit: You haven't yet explained what caused you to flip-flop on your Fenix read, Bulba.

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@Bulba: I wouldn't say there was any outrage or emotion behind 'explain yourself Fenix', haha. Probably why it sounded fake. Also, 513 being a catchup post, it was

very

badly structured and didn't have a point like most of my other posts, so I can understand how it sounded off-- I wrote it in real time as I was reading through.

I believe I agreed that Sonic was being scummy, but A. this makes sense under the lens of him trying to avoid the NK, and B. it's idiotic to vote an un-cc'd cop claim. If you'd like to show me how that's inconsistent, go ahead.

I don't know ProHawk. You're gonna have to show me how this is town ProHawk behaviour, because to me this is scum behaviour. I have been analysing these posts in context since the moment I started scumreading them. His 'points' are nothing new and his mollie fight early on was utter BS.

Here's the problem with your issues with me, Bulba. If I stay in the lines of common consensus so much, why, as scum, would I tunnel ProHawk, defend shos, defend Jackel, etc etc? Your summary of my behaviour is inconsistent.

Edit:
A. Deflection. As in, every time I suspect him, he either goes and says "Oh, but mollie's done that more than I have" which isn't even true, or "You're gonna have to stop saying the same thing about me", which is just dumb.
And yes it's true. Prove me wrong.
B. Then I would say that your defence of Fenix holds no ground and if you think he's town, might wanna say why and not let him get lynched.

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It's funny how I predicted this wouldn't be a very case-y game, and now you go and scumread me due to my case. If you don't like cases, just say tl;dr and don't read it. But cases aren't scummy like people like to think.

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Spoiler: Spoilered in the interest of not quote walling

@Bulba: I wouldn't say there was any outrage or emotion behind 'explain yourself Fenix', haha.

Telling someone to "explain yourself" is a way to make it appear like you're scumhunting. Actual town would have had a more pointed question. Asking someone to explain themselves is vague and noncommittal, and it shows that you're not interested in the answers or figuring that person out as much as you are in putting in the appearance of questioning them.

I believe I agreed that Sonic was being scummy, but A. this makes sense under the lens of him trying to avoid the NK, and B. it's idiotic to vote an un-cc'd cop claim. If you'd like to show me how that's inconsistent, go ahead.

I never said it was inconsistent. I said it was a very convenient stance to take.

His 'points' are nothing new and his mollie fight early on was utter BS.

I can see how he'd be concerned about Mollie. As for no original points, that's BS, as he was the first to push Shos and provide reasons to vote Jackel.

Here's the problem with your issues with me, Bulba. If I stay in the lines of common consensus so much, why, as scum, would I tunnel ProHawk, defend shos, defend Jackel, etc etc? Your summary of my behaviour is inconsistent.

First, I only said that you stayed in the lines of common consensus when it came to Sonic. That had nothing to do with your overall behavior. Second, and in order: As scum, it's your job to push a mislynch, but to stay off of lynches that can point back to you and get you killed. The ProHawk lynch is either A.) not going to happen and is therefore safe or B.) it will be pushed through by town at the last minute, and no one will think to look at you, either because it will be a deadline wagon or because you pushed it in the first place and they are expecting scum somewhere in the middle of the wagon. As for Shos, yes, you were the first one to say the wagon was bad, before it even became a wagon. But again, a good scum player learns to recognize which wagons they should stay away from, and Shos is the definition of an easy wagon, and one that would be extremely dangerous for scum. The same goes for Jackel, although it is not true that you defended him. You actually took your sweet time coming out with a town read, and then, it was only conditionally. You fence sat on that read until everyone else had voiced their opinion, and then you agreed that it would be unwise to lynch him.

A. Deflection. As in, every time I suspect him, he either goes and says "Oh, but mollie's done that more than I have" which isn't even true, or "You're gonna have to stop saying the same thing about me", which is just dumb.

Of your three accusations of deflection, one was him bantering with Mollie early game, and the other two are him telling you that you're tunneling and to essentially screw yourself. That's not deflection. That's confidence. Learn what a term means before you misuse it.

B. Then I would say that your defence of Fenix holds no ground and if you think he's town, might wanna say why and not let him get lynched.

Nope. Not gonna tell you. Now accuse me of deflection.

It's funny how I predicted this wouldn't be a very case-y game, and now you go and scumread me due to my case. If you don't like cases, just say tl;dr and don't read it. But cases aren't scummy like people like to think.

I never said I don't like cases or that cases or scummy. All I said was that your case is fake and is meant to make you look more town and to fool others into mislynching ProHawk. As I pointed out, your "case" contains zero actual analysis and is just you quoting or linking a post while making a comment, mostly saying fluff, which is a non-reason to vote somebody.

On 'explain yourself':

No, I actually want him to explain himself. He has yet to, thus my vote remains. First it was fake outrage and now it's for appearance?

On mollie:

I can't see why he would've been concerned with mollie at that point in the game.

On original points:

That's bullshit. He was the first to vote shos, but with no reasoning. You were the first to question shos and Nazarene was the first to actually push him. That vote means nothing.

On my behaviour:

Here's the problem with your case on me. It all boils down to 'I'm doing what I do for appearances', which is obviously true of all scum. However, it's all predicated on the idea that ProHawk is town and I'm scum pushing a townsperson. Also your comments on the ProHawk wagon are inane: EVERY wagon is either A. Not going to happen and therefore safe, or B. Going to be pushed through by town later on. So what you're telling me is anyone who starts pushing a wagon is scum?

Furthermore

, you claim that I called the shos wagon a bad one (in response to Nazarene, mind you) before it happened because it was something I'd want to stay away from. Yet AT THE SAME TIME, you're saying that I'm voting ProHawk for being an easy target. This makes no sense.
And on jackel, 221 is where I started defending him. This was after 3 players had already voted him. So basically:

I'm scum for defending shos before the easy wagon even happened. I'm scum for defending jackel WHILE the wagon was happening. I'm scum for going after ProHawk who'll be an easy target/wagon to push. I'm scum for coming to the same conclusions as other people about Sonic. And I'm scum for pushing what you think will be a mislynch while staying off wagons that'll get me killed.
Ya know.
Like a mislynch wagon.

On deflection:

Like hell that was banter, he responded to my telling him he'd produced nothing by trying to tell everyone that mollie had also produced nothing, and then voted her. And he was blatantly wrong.

On Fenix:

It's not deflection because I'm not even suspecting you. Why would you not explain your townread?
Are you townreading him solely because I'm scumreading him?

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His 'points' are nothing new and his mollie fight early on was utter BS.

I can see how he'd be concerned about Mollie. As for no original points, that's BS, as he was the first to push Shos and provide reasons to vote Jackel.

I forgot the 2nd part. Cause I mean this...
this isn't even true...
You call this (296) reasons to vote jackel?

Read his ISO again, Bulba. Your townreads on both him and Fenix are completely unfounded.

I want to reiterate that you're pretty much voting me out of
1. Gut, and
2. Your townread on ProHawk, which is weak as hell.

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

@mod: BMWS and I would like to replace this hydra with my main Mathdino account, since he's pretty busy IRL and probably won't be able to catch up or be active.
Lemme know if/when that's okay, or if you want confirmation or something.

<<< Sure thing! I'll make the edits at the first available opportunity. >>>

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

@ika: ProHawk because people seem so adamant to just leave him be, and thus less likely to be lynched than Fenix.

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

What? That's BS. I say 'un-cc'd cop' as a qualifier. I never once asked for a CC, I just don't like making absolute statements like "the fakeclaimed cop" or "the cop".

Also, I didn't consider the possibility of multiple cops, and I kinda derped because I didn't realise what people were talking about when they said that.

Regardless, we're not lynching Sonic today and the smart move for any cops out there would be to just investigate Sonic and wait til tomorrow.

Again.
I never asked for a CC.

[Doyouthinkhesaurus]

Wtf is this reasoning? ^

Can we lynch ProHawk for real now?

UNVOTE: Fenix
VOTE: ProHawk

If there was a CC, I MIGHT consider lynching Sonic. But I'd want to leave them alive for now to see what happens (like if any of them get NK'd).