Mini 1622: (Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia [-Over-]

Nazarene · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:57 pm

In post 544, EddieFenix wrote:I've got my eye on you, Sonic. Don't think I won't investigate further down the line if you start to smell fishy to me.

What the hell is this? Does he not smell fishy to you now?

In post 561, Bulbazak wrote:
Unvote

Vote Doyouthinkhesaurus

Bulba, are you serious? While Dino's case was hardly damning, pointing out fluff (a claim that you have labeled as vague, which it is clearly not) constitutes a case in itself. Even though you think the case is crap, how can you honestly maintain that Dino is attempting to start what you have called a difficult wagon at the end of Day 1? That makes no sense, and this Head fails to see how you can believe his ISO as a whole is scum-motivated.

-A

Nazarene · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:58 pm

We have actually scum candidates. DGB, calm down. Bulba, back the eff of the moronic policy lynch idea.

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Voidedmafia · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:04 pm

In post 651, Nazarene wrote:We have actually scum candidates. DGB, calm down. Bulba, back the eff of the moronic policy lynch idea.

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Wholly agree to this.

istott · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:48 pm

Hey, Bulba! Happy 2 years!

istott · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:49 pm

i dont think the policy lynch of DGB is a great idea. As Nazarene said, we do have plenty of scum candidates.

Mathdino · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:00 pm

Okay so I'm not going to respond to Bulba's gigantic quote wall in full. Just want to say a couple things:

1. ProHawk didn't 'push' shos at all, and he certainly wasn't the first. Both his votes were naked, it wasn't until after everyone had already gone after shos that he started pushing with his words.
2. I found it odd that Nazarene was asking others for their opinions before providing hers. I will say that I've believed the claim for the most part all game.
3. I

should

be scumreading you for WKing ProHawk? What? I think you're town, and I've thought that for a while. I think your reads just suck right now.

Also you're considering a policy lynch if your grand total of 1 scumread doesn't happen? Really?

EddieFenix · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:19 pm

In post 650, Nazarene wrote:
In post 544, EddieFenix wrote:I've got my eye on you, Sonic. Don't think I won't investigate further down the line if you start to smell fishy to me.

What the hell is this? Does he not smell fishy to you now?

This is me telling Sonic I'm watching him.

mastin2 · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:29 pm

Twentieth Votecount

:

ProHawk - 4 (shos, istott, Mathdino, Voidedmafia)

Mathdino - 2 (ProHawk, Bulbazak)

Voidedmafia - 2 (pirate mollie, Nazarene)
ika - 1 (guille2015)
guille2015 - 1 (Sonic Boom)

Not voting - 3 (EddieFenix, DrippingGoofBall, ika)

With

13

alive, it's

7

to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 26, post 636.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1

<<< Forgot to mention this earlier. I haven't gotten around to the 'paperwork', so to speak, but Mathdino is playing without his hydra buddy, going solo. Thus, Doyouthinkhesaurus is replaced by him. All VCs made after his request will have this reflected as soon as I am able. >>>

Bulbazak · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:09 pm

@Dino: If you think that my sole reason for voting you is because you are voting ProHawk, then yes, you should absolutely be questioning your townread of me and even start scumreading me.

@Everyone else: I never said I would switch to a policy lynch right this second. If we get really close to deadline, like 36-24 hours close, and my preferred wagon is not viable, then I will absolutely consider compromising. This should not be surprising at all.

<<< Uhh... *points to the deadline in large text*...yeah. >>>

Mathdino · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:27 pm

I was under the impression it was because of the ProHawk thing along with the gutscumread you've stated you had on me multiple times. I think you've managed to convince yourself that my actions have scum motivation and this came from the original gutread and the fact that my wording sometimes sounds fake.
I also think your ProHawk townread sucks and if you weren't townreading him I'd be fine in your book.

That said, I don't see much scum motivation in barreling after me regardless of ProHawk's alignment; if he's scum, then you'd be instantly connected to him, and if he's town, well, premature backlash much and you'd be suspected for unnecessarily defending ProHawk.

Why do you want me to scumread you so bad?

Mathdino · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:30 pm

Holy shit, didn't notice the deadline.

<<< What, do I need to make the text even larger?!? >>>

Based on our collective targets, it looks like this lynch is gonna be between ProHawk, Fenix, and Voided. Would be cool with lynching either of the first 2. Voided as a whole reads town to me at the moment.

ika · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:55 pm

how has this game nearly gone on 2 weeks already?

<<< I know, right?!? It blindsided me, too! I guess what they say is true: when you have so much fun, time really does fly you by. >>>

shit well that means i have to kick it into gear and right now it looks like its hawk lynch

@hawk: your now a vengful, who do you venge shoot and why?
who is the scum on your wagon?
what do you think of the current voters on your wagon who are not a scumread? townreads?

others:
i dont see the scum in dino-slot
DBG i would do for policy but would much rather poilicy titus!sloth

what was the case on eddie and/or voided again? (link to post will suffice but i can look later if needed)

really the only other person i would have something really an idication of doing is mollie mostly b/c she has not talked to me yet and

ProHawk · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:05 pm

Naz - I am not really a big meta player, I use it more for gut than anything. That said, off the top of my head I have one scum game and one town game. His town game was super hyper-active and interactive, his scum game was less-so. I don't have a super amount of time or info to delve into manipulation of meta or not, its just what it came across to me as. You also asked me about a Dino wagon, but I didn't see it? Unless you are referring to the only other person pushing Dino aside from me?

Ika - I would consider shooting people out of the list of those who were talking about counter-claims which I think were DBG, Dino, Mollie, and Guille. Think I already covered my wagon analysis in a previous post, but currently sit at Shos and Dino. If they aren't scum and there my wagon is only town/one scum (Dino?) then scum are worried about my being lynched backfiring? Not real sure why, unless its Bulba's case which most people seem to be not believing/discrediting?

Voided - Marketplace Mafia but since you don't remember it probably didn't phase you much.

ProHawk · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:06 pm

Not Voting - 3 (EddieFenix, DrippingGoofBall, ika)

These people need to put a vote down somewhere ASAP so we can get some legitimate choices instead of bringing things out of the air like Dino suggesting Fenix is a legit candidate for being lynched with a total of zero votes.

Voidedmafia · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:41 pm

Eddie's MIA, DGB's throwing a hissy fit, and ika's currently thinking.

Latter one is okay for now, former two need to do something stat.

Why aren't we lynching guille again?

EddieFenix · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:30 pm

I'm MIA when I answered Naz on this very page, Voided?

Bulbazak · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:34 pm

In post 659, Mathdino wrote:I was under the impression it was because of the ProHawk thing along with the gutscumread you've stated you had on me multiple times. I think you've managed to convince yourself that my actions have scum motivation and this came from the original gutread and the fact that my wording sometimes sounds fake.
I also think your ProHawk townread sucks and if you weren't townreading him I'd be fine in your book.

That's not how reads work. A gut read means that I noticed something off, although I can't for the life of me figure out what it is at the moment. My case is less the result of me looking for scumminess from you and more calling it out when it happened. I've been known to waffle on gut reads for a lot longer, and they don't always stay at the same level. This is just you trying to further discredit my read on you. And no, my ProHawk read still has nothing to do with why I'm scumreading you. I'd have had a problem with your IIoA no matter who you used it on. Quit trying to strawman my argument.

In post 664, Voidedmafia wrote:
Why aren't we lynching guille again?

I felt the wagon was too easy at the time, although I wasn't opposed to it. I'm still not if you want to swing a wagon in that direction.

Mathdino · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:42 pm

You discredit my case because it consists of 'buzzwords' (fluff, deflection, sheeping) yet you accuse me of IIoA when the majority of my content has been talking to and questioning people.

You've also shown no issues with me prior to the ProHawk case. So was that the only instance of IIoA?

Bulbazak · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:51 pm

IIoA was in reference to your case, yes. There was no actual analysis to it. And saying that is not a discredit. It's a legitimate reason to find your case to be full of crap and to think you are scum.

mastin2 · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:36 pm

<<< Happy scumday, Bulbazak! >>>

I'd give you a VC, but nothing's changed, soooooooooooooooooooooo, have this instead.

Day One's deadline is Wednesday, November 19th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2014-11-19 16:15:00).

Be Warned: We're almost at the 36-hour mark!

(I sent a PM to literally everyone about the impending deadline, so there should be no excuses.)

Sonic Boom · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:52 am

2 weeks already?! I haven't even talked to Titus yet!

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<<< I know! I can hardly believe it myself! Almost wish I didn't have to enforce that deadline, but I do. >>>

Still scum reading guile. Still voting gulle.

Sonic Boom · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:53 am

I'm just banking on my inspection tonight, but if my result is messed with or I die, it's YOUR fault

*points to everyone yet no one in particular *

Sonic Boom · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:55 am

In post 552, Sonic Boom wrote:
In post 551, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 548, Sonic Boom wrote:i really dont know what to say about the prohawk case

like

i dont know what to say

You can say it's pretty good.

dino was doing PbPA. According to something i read somewhere by someone in some site, PbPA usually isn't good

yes, i did that on purpose

However I would also be interested to see

In post 551, DrippingGoofball wrote:
Can you do the same exercise you did with EddieFenix that you did with proHawk?

I am faster than bulbazak, btw

ProHawk · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:23 am

So let me get this straight...

I'm scum because.... no content.
I'm scum because.... I said Mollie had no content.
I'm scum because.... coasting.
I'm scum because.... terrible post.
I'm scum beacuse.... has done nothing to look town.

Yet, when that didn't work, try try harder.

I am scum because.... avoiding OMGUS
I am scum because.... reasoning sucks

Did I miss anything?

ProHawk · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:29 am

Remember when you said this?

In post 606, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:I say 'un-cc'd cop' as a qualifier.

You might have forgotten you said this.

In post 521, Doyouthinkhesaurus wrote:You also have no reasons that I'm scummy other than saying it's pretty reasonable to assume that there's probably a cop and that
Sonic's telling the truth if he's not CC'd.

THIS IS BLATANT FISHING WITHOUT DIRECTLY ASKING FOR THE COUNTER CLAIM. It was absolutely not a qualifier.