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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:54 am

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Why not Skruffs?
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:55 am

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because im less certain of him being scum. Theo on the other hand, im very confident of being scum.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:43 am

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Battle Mage wrote:Jordan, Theo is totally the play for today.
All I can say is I'm glad the bull headed and blinkered BM is playing this game. Care to elaborate and maybe post a decent well thought out reason, as to why.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:48 am

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Battle Mage wrote:because im less certain of him being scum. Theo on the other hand, im very confident of being scum.
Well Theo is vote hopping a lot, and using the excuse 'I'm testing for reactions', but Skruffs is straw-manning me (Is that the correct term?).
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:57 am

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"Vote-hopping a lot" - let me see Talitha, BM and Jordan.

It's not like I've turned into a frog on speed.

What I will do however is
unvote
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:15 am

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I kind of don't like Jordan's vote on skruffs, as I feel it is more OMGUS and an emotional vote rather then much evidence agaisnt him.

It's a toss up between Theo, Skruffs and Jordan for me at this time. Theo seems to just be doing his regular playstyle, so I am seeing a bit of the light in him (it's like a tiny wax candle in a gaint cave though) Skruffs play seems inconsistant and sometimes just a little too harsh, but overall he has been one the of the most helpful players. Jordan....... Jordan..... Jordan..... I just don't know what to think here. There's vote-hopping, weird votes, odd speculations, and incosistances, but all in all, nothing major. I know I do scummy things all the time without even knowing it, and I feel that Jordan may be in that same posisiton, as a pro-town.

At this time, I have to pick theo out of all the choices as my most scummy. I'm gonna need a bit more of a push to switch my vote.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:39 am

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I think what the town needs is some prods on the inactives. I appreciate Pheobus has had a few problems already with replacements and the like, but we can't really let 40% of the players idle away so badly.

Ancalagon last post 31 May
Fielding Melish last post 1 June - prob needs replacing
DoS last post 5 June

~n9v~ last post 11 June
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:19 pm

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I will also try and read over before I leave for 3.5 weeks in USA starting this Friday... I hope to be able to check in a couple of times while I'm away.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:59 pm

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@Miztef-this is seriously not Theos normal style. Usually he is actually helpful and keen to contribute. Here he's acting completely out of character, thus im having a hard time trusting him.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:11 am

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I'm keen to contribute thats a fallacy. I'm not being overly helpful, agreed, because I'm trying out a few tactics to catch someone out. However is anyone at this stage being overly helpful?
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:19 am

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Give me something to post about, and I’ll post. There’s really very little going on here.

Jordan and theo both seem a little scummy, only in that both are posting a lot without much content...appearing to be helpful without being such. Please note that this isn’t just
ad hominem
; I think there’s little to go on, and both may simply be eager to discuss things and not have much to discuss. In the abstract it seems a little scummy, though.

I don’t get the Skruffs=scum argument. Skruffs hasn’t done much other than point out standard flawed scum-hunting techniques (correctly), and questioned the motives of some votes (usefully). Jordan’s vote on Skruffs is thus suspect to me.

BM’s comments on theo’s meta-gaming are interesting, but not enough for me to cast a vote.

Talitha is looking more and more town to me, and I’m suspicious of her detractors.

But, again, there’s lots of posting going on here...but very little game playing. If I seem lurky, so be it. I don’t feel the need to keep a running commentary in the game regardless of whether or not I have anything interesting to say.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:26 am

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OK, my vote was slightly emotional, I was sick of him saying I wasn't contributing when I clearly was, but that's still scummy, he's just picking on the most convenient town lynch, so my vote stays.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:42 am

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Phoebus wrote:
Vote count:


2 Battle Mage (~N9V~, Pooky)
1 Fielding Melish (Talitha)

2 JordanA24 (Skruffs, theopor_COD)
2 theopor_COD (Battle Mage, Miztef)
2 Talitha (Fielding Melish, JordanA24)

4 not voting


7 to lynch.

Purple is the one in minority. The colour holds no other significance...
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:27 am

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I'm here and very VERY soon posting something with content.. hopefully.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:27 am

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Twito wrote:I'm here and very VERY soon posting something with content.. hopefully.
Are you replacing in?
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:28 am

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Uh forgot that I died last night...
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:29 am

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Bah.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:29 am

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:lol:
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:16 pm

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LOL @ twito

I agree with jingolaw that the posts made by everyone are uninspiring. Alot chit chat, with little substance.

BM's comment about this not being Theo's normal playstyle seems overly confident. I have played with Theo before, and his playstyle here seems little different then in that instance (that game is not yet completed however, and I don't know if he is scum or not in that game).

I have liked alot of theo's latest posts, and will therefore
unvote
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:23 pm

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Miztef wrote:LOL @ twito

I agree with jingolaw that the posts made by everyone are uninspiring. Alot chit chat, with little substance.

BM's comment about this not being Theo's normal playstyle seems overly confident. I have played with Theo before, and his playstyle here seems little different then in that instance (that game is not yet completed however, and I don't know if he is scum or not in that game).

I have liked alot of theo's latest posts, and will therefore
unvote
for the time being.
I expect that ive played more games with Theo than you. Usually his playstyle is fairly consistent. However, here and in 1 other game (which i cannot mention) his play has been significantly different. I cant say whether its an indication of him being scum, but something feels very wrong, and i cant put my finger on it.

*wants Twito to replace back in* :(
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:20 am

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Sorry BM, but I can't just take your word for it.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:26 am

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IT's completely normal, based on past experience, for people to interpret m y game style as rather scummy. I don't know why, but something about the way I phrase things and suggest things always sets off alarms in people's heads. Then I have to stop scum hunting or brewing over hte facts or whatever and defend myself. I'm not complaining - it's what I have to do - and sometimes, oppurtunistic scum will get caught in trying to push too hard for me based on my posting flavor alone. If you look in any of my games (any of them except for the newbie where I was scum, anyways), I get lynched a lot in minis but I've never been lynched in a large game. I'm kind of stalled out with RL issues so I am not putting as much energy into posts as I would like, but, it's still there.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:27 am

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unvote, vote DragonsofSummer


Post, lurker scum.

Not sure what to make of Jingolaw's post re-lurking and only posting when there's something to discuss. Maybe if you were more proactive in prompting discussion we'd have more useful information and the like.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:12 am

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Theo, has DoS been active in other games?

If not, I don't see why you interpret his inacitivity as scummish. IMO people who attack inactives are not being all that helpful, unless they have been surely lurking.

If he has been active in other games however, then he should post soon, cause he hasen't in a good long time.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:35 am

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On double checking he hasn't posted anywhere for a week, so that's a good point. I'm just wary that there only seems to be six/seven of us posting and I want to promote activity from the inactives.

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