AlSleet wrote:I'd just like to raise a point that we have a big problem: we've had 9 pages so far and we're not close to lynching anyone. We can't lynch handbanana yet because it would be way too risky to lynch a noncounterclaimed power role. The situation has been distracting us way too long and I think we need to move away from it because I don't much further can come from it until day 2. So I'd like to see whom, other than handbanana, everyone finds suspicious and hopefully some discussion will come from it and we'll come closer to eliminating scum.
I agree with you here, AlSleet. Maybe it's time to try something here that I've tried before when a game stalled...
Given the rampant lurking and how little information we actually have, I think what we need is a new topic of discussion. In light of this, I propose that we use one of the best known of all discussion generators - the Top 3 Scum List. Here's how it works: everyone posts the three people they feel are most likely to be scum, and gives reasons why they feel that way.
Sound good? I'll start us off. Tarhalindur's Top 3 Scum List:
T1) Khelvaster. He's one of a couple of players who I've been suspicious of for a while. I don't like how you seemed to be lurker hunting earlier in the day, nor do I like how you immediately agreed with Panzerjager when he FoS'ed the lurker hunters (especially since you were effectively agreeing with him FoS'ing yourself). I'm concerned about your claim that I've been "laying low most of the game and rearing my ugly head to get a quick lynch" - my gut feeling up until the page before hand banana claimed was that hand banana was likely an aggressive townie (as I pointed out at least one or two times earlier in the thread) and with all the conversation revolving around hand banana I found it difficult to make a case against anyone else. (IMO, this is also a case of "pot calling the kettle black"; as far as I can see, Khelvaster has also been staying under the radar most of the game, despite a few questionable acts such as his lurker hunt earlier in the Day.) Finally, I'm disturbed by how you claim that I've been "consistently trying to take down an uncounterclaimed vig", since that's not the case for reasons that I'll explain below - if anyone's guilty of pushing a lynch on an uncounterclaimed vig, it's Panzerjager, who's been pushing the "hand banana is SK" theory rather vigorously as of late.
Speaking of Panzerjager...
T1) Panzerjager. Outside of his recent posts pushing the "hand banana is SK" theory, I can't find anything in Panzerjager's posts that I can make a proper case on. Despite that, my gut feeling is that Panzerjager is likely scum. I can't put a finger on it, but he seems to radiate an aura of scumminess that's distracting the town while keeping him out of the town's eye.
3) hand banana. As I've previously noted, at the moment the *only* thing that's kept me from voting you has been that you're an uncounterclaimed vig. Even that hasn't really put my mind at ease about you, because I have deep reservations about vigs who fire blindly and don't listen to the town's consensus (i.e, "Azwolging" vigs), to the extent that IMO the main difference between an Azwolging vig and an SK is that the Azwolging vig counts as a pro-town player in endgame.
That said, you *are* an uncounterclaimed vig, and you've recently agreed to follow the wishes of the town when deciding whether and who to vig (this is critical, as you were #1 on my scum list despite your claim until you agreed to follow the town's wishes). Regardless of your true alignment, you can wait until tomorrow.
Since there are two people in the game that I find about equally scummy, I won't vote either of them until I've made up my mind as to which is more likely to be scum.
FoS: Khelvaster
I'd FoS Panzerjager too, except that I still have an FoS (and IGMEOY) on him from earlier.
I'll get back to sending it when I remember what I said. Sorry for inconvinience.