Mini 455 - Mafia in Theoville - Game Over who won?

[NanookTheWolf]

Chaos, Jalyn, Nanook -- please say whether or not you claim to be vigilante.

No vig to be found here .. Try again

Nanook is now my second choice for lynch *cough*vigkill*cough*, after CO

Why?

Even if no one counters Adel .. That would only leave CO left to counter btw, I'm having trouble

following

Adel. The death scenes are screaming something at me, and it's just not adding up in my head.

Adel .. Again, Did you kill on N1 and 2?

[Adel]

Yeah Nanook, I killed the mayor. [quote=theopor_OCD in the second post of the game"]
This setup is mostly closed, however you receive one piece of information. As the limited flavour suggests, there are two factions in this game, the town and the mafia[/quote]
The mayor was killed by a bullet, Ecto was shot. BM was strangled. There are only two factions, the three people who looked guilty after we found the mayor's body and the rest are town- including the vig who kills by strangling.

What part of "two factions" leaves room for an SK? I do not thing you are dense enough to be honestly confused by there simple facts, so that leaves me suspecting that you are attempting to confuse our efforts to identify scum.

[ChaosOmega]

I am not the vig.

Adel, if you felt that me outing you deserved a vote, why did you wait until after someone else placed a vote to do it? Before, you seemed overly casual about it:

CO: nice theory. I appreciate that you think you are saving the vig from a lynch. Also, It took a lot of work to clip all of those posts. I think I know who the vig really is, but it is impolite to go fishing for power roles. Can you turn those analytic skills on exposing who you think is scum?

So, you appreciate my efforts, and reward them with...a vote. I understand how trying to out the vig can be seen as scummy, but I don't so much have a problem with the vote as I do with the change of attitude towards it, voting me as soon as you felt you had backing from someone else.

[ChaosOmega]

Ecto was shot. BM was strangled.

It's the other way around.

[YogurtBandit]

So Stree,Jalyn,CO,YL,MeMe,I, and Guuardian are all not the Vigs, and Adel is.

[Adel]

Ecto was shot. BM was strangled.

It's the other way around.

Huh, that makes no sense. I though the murder weapons would remain consistent- to the point where I read the death scene descriptions incorrectly several times.

My change of attitude was a matter of timing, when you attempted to ID me as vig my primary motivation was not being exposed. Streeflo's case against you later was pretty compelling. You and Streeflo share a number of tells that I identified earlier in this day, and the additional tell of role fishing put you ahead of him, and Nanook.

[ChaosOmega]

Streeflo's case against you later was pretty compelling.

I had to go back and read this "pretty compelling" case:

CO: nice theory. I appreciate that you think you are saving the vig from a lynch. Also, It took a lot of work to clip all of those posts. I think I know who the vig really is, but it is impolite to go fishing for power roles. Can you turn those analytic skills on exposing who you think is scum?

Very nice. Vote: ChaosOmega for rolefishing.

He quoted you, made a play on words and voted me for something you said I did previously. Unless I missed something, this is the compelling case that convinced you to vote me?

[Adel]

You were rolefishing, and you put quite a bit of time into doing it. You haven't turned your analytic skills towards identifying scum.

[Streeflo]

Nanook, I think MeMe already cleared this up. Looking back, you can track down at least 2-3 posts where Theo's first post has been quoted. There is no SK, just town and mafia.

[YagamiLight]

Ecto was shot. BM was strangled.

It's the other way around.

Theo's post doesn't actually say who had what happen to them. It just says one was shot and one was strangled.

[MeMe]

Not that I haven't already pointed it out, but here --

The Dead -
Theo, Town Mayor, N0 - Bullet to the head.

Nanosauromo- Vanilla Townie, D1 - Lynched

Nekka-Lucifer

Replaced by Battle Mage - Vanilla Townie, N1 - Shot

Erotomachia - Vanilla Townie, N1 - Strangled

[YagamiLight]

I was always looking at this one.

A night to forget for the residents of Theoville. Cracks of thunder and death all around. The town awake to see two dead bodies, one shot in the head, the other strangled painfully to death.

Battle Mage, Vanilla Townie, Town Aligned
Erotomachia, Vanilla Townie, Town Aligned

9 of you remain, it's 5 to secure a lynch.

Deadline is Tuesday 3rd July, 03.00 GMT.

But based on that, I"m not so sure BM is vig, because that leads me to believe mafia killed BM as they killed the mayor and both died of gun shots.

[YagamiLight]

EBWODP
I meant not sure Adel is vig.

[MeMe]

So your theory is that the scum got to kill twice last night?

[YagamiLight]

No, I believe there is an SK in our midst, someone else is vig and killed Eroto, or Adel is vig, but lied about killing BM when he actually killed Eroto. I"m going to go reread the first post again to see how likely an SK is.

[MeMe]

How do you interpret this oft-quoted passage from theopor's second post?

This setup is mostly closed, however you receive one piece of information. As the limited flavour suggests, there are two factions in this game, the town and the mafia.

[MeMe]

And, seriously, if we were playing face-to-face, I'd probably be slapping you.

[YagamiLight]

All the stuff I"ve been missing lately, I would probably be slamming my head into the wall.

[YagamiLight]

Well, the way I see it, now that I think I haven't missed anything, Is that one way or another Adel is lying to us. Either about being vig or about who he targeted because if the mayor was shot then the mafia killed BM who was shot, and therefore the vig killed Eroto. Based on this, I think that Adel is probably scum, and Guardian is a sane cop, and if that's true then I think YB may also have fake claimed, but that I will determine later for the time being.

[Streeflo]

Actually I haven't seen that first post before. I assumed that BM was the one strangled, but now I'm confused too. There still isn't a SK for sure though, so those of you that keep bringing it up, stop. It's really distracting > >.

I'm pretty sure Adel is the one who killed BM, regardless scum or vig.

[YogurtBandit]

Well, the way I see it, now that I think I haven't missed anything, Is that one way or another Adel is lying to us. Either about being vig or about who he targeted because if the mayor was shot then the mafia killed BM who was shot, and therefore the vig killed Eroto. Based on this, I think that Adel is probably scum, and Guardian is a sane cop, and if that's true then I think YB may also have fake claimed, but that I will determine later for the time being.

So you're saying MeMe is scum?

[Guardian]

Well, I'm 5 pages into a re-read analysis, but I read the last few posts... and wow I think YL is right, at least in that Adel must be lying about someone - I thought this independently when I read the first post. Shot most definitely seems to be a mafia kill, and strangled a vig kill.

Adel, what are you lying about, and why?

[Guardian]

someone->something*

[YogurtBandit]

Well, I'm 5 pages into a re-read analysis, but I read the last few posts... and wow I think YL is right, at least in that Adel must be lying about someone - I thought this independently when I read the first post. Shot most definitely seems to be a mafia kill, and strangled a vig kill.

Adel, what are you lying about, and why?

Why would the Vig want Ero dead? He was a perfect townie...

[MeMe]

Here's what we know:

We've got town and mafia -- NO SK.
There were two kills last night.
Adel has claimed responsibility for one of them without counterclaim.

So, either mafia got two kills last night

(and chose to take down BM with one of them, a player who would've likely been pretty easy to lynch today)

OR
Adel's telling the truth

If there's another option, I'm not seeing it.