(Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia 2 [Over]

Awesome · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:26 pm

I guess I lied...LYNCH ALL LIARS...I have a mild scum read on Toon Fighter for that. But that's something I also want to do a quick meta check on. (The points system, not the rest of it. The rest of it is scummy independent of whether or not he does the point system as all alignments.)

Awesome · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:28 pm

Oh wait I also have a mild scum read on Anchovie because OMGUS, no but really, they ignored everything going on in the thread to jump on our wagon.

Awesome · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:32 pm

Also Mollie, damn sorry, please don't just d3 me. That is how people have been dealing with me sometimes lately, but also it's how Bert dealt with me when he was scum in Quickness, so I'd like some interaction at least. I'm trying to figure out your alignment too.

Wisdom · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:33 pm

Tammy probtown

farside22 · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:35 pm

In post 194, Ankamius wrote:
In post 38, farside22 wrote:2 pages and I get to call Peregrine the VI this game.
This should be fun. How many more do I get to try and figure out before deadline?

In post 63, farside22 wrote:
In post 42, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 38, farside22 wrote:2 pages and I get to call Peregrine the VI this game.
This should be fun. How many more do I get to try and figure out before deadline?

Seriously? The ones bolded are usually confirmed. Mastin did it backwards.

I know but since I was the first confirmed, the reverse made sense.
Also it means I don't have to think about you and wonder if your scum this game.

The general tone behind these two posts when you put them together. It looks like an attempt to discredit followed by a passive-aggressive tone that suggests an attack while also being vague enough that you can just go right back and claim it wasn't.

I can't even fathom how you reached that far as I clearly stated I was happy not to scum read Pere.

farside22 · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 1:42 pm

In post 202, Alchemist21 wrote:You try figuring out what alignment Town-Shunned Miller Godfather is.

In post 217, Jackel98 wrote:Wow. So much stuff.

Don't know what to think about Alchemist. It's possible that he's lying, but I wouldn't put it past this game to have his claimed role.

In post 196, Alchemist21 wrote:VOTE: Titus

FOS: Ank

Farside did not attack or discredit Pregerine. Crappy push, mates.

Why vote Titus, but only give reasons for pressure on Ank? Also, I'm pretty sure Farside did attack Peregrine.

Disliking Farside and Pine. I think claiming miller is a null-tell, but I've only heard of cops giving a guilty or not guilty. Just seems strange, to me.

UNVOTE: Wisdom
VOTE: Pine

Why do you dislike pine or me?

Bulba is town.

EddieFenix · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:12 pm

In post 231, Titus wrote:
In post 218, EddieFenix wrote:
In post 127, guille2015 wrote:
In post 81, EddieFenix wrote:
Vote Ankamius

I'd vote Bulba, but not this time.

Why not?

Kinda gets old after awhile voting someone who you know like the back of your hand for the lulz of it. Plus, I think Anka is scum. Dropping "i'm a miller" with their being no actual need for it so early sets my radar off so hard. Also, ANKA, are you fascist instead of communist?

Site meta is to drop off a miller claim in your first post if you are a miller.

Why would you not be aware of this?

Alch's miller godfather claim is wierd. My gut says Cop ascetic but bleh...

Mastina: What happens if a hypotheticsl cop checks a hypothetical miller godfather?

You expect someone who isn't a dedicated player to KNOW every bit of site meta?

Bulbazak · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:19 pm

Unvote

Vote Eddie Fenix

That is bull. You saw this happen in the last game, and I know we've talked about mafia theory concerning millers after that game ended. You're not this dumb.

EddieFenix · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:31 pm

In post 257, Bulbazak wrote:
Unvote

Vote Eddie Fenix

That is bull. You saw this happen in the last game, and I know we've talked about mafia theory concerning millers after that game ended. You're not this dumb.

Dumb, no. Forgetful, obviously.

mastin2 · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:57 pm

The awkward moment when the mod realizes that she doesn't need to make a declaration to the mod that she's V/LA.
...But probably should say it to the players.

<<< Yo! Family night, so I'm a bit preoccupied. In general, expect there to be gaps of various sizes--ranging from very small to big whopping huge--in votecount frequency during Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays, for different causes on each day. I'll still be making them, but if you make six pages in a day, expect a votecount only once in those pages, rather than on every page. With luck, Voidedmafia may be able to help balance that out. >>>

I'm also V/LA a bit on Wednesday.
...I SWEAR, I'M ACTUALLY MODDING THE GAME, OKAY?!?

Fourth Votecount

:

farside22 - 4 (Ankamius, Pirate Ika, guille2015, Wisdom)

Ankamius - 2 (EddieFenix, farside22)

Titus - 2 (Frightened inmate number3, Alchemist21)
Pine - 2 (Titus, Jackel98)
Awesome - 2 (Muffin, alivechihiro)
Fluminator - 1 (BlizZard)
Pirate Ika - 1 (ProHawk)
Wisdom - 1 (Nobody Special)
Muffin - 1 (Awesome)
alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)
Nobody Special - 1 (Fluminator)
Eddie Fenix - 1 (Bulbazak)

Not Voting: 8 (Mathdino, DrippingGoofBall, shos, ArcAngel9, eyestott, Pine, Klingoncelt, Toon Fighter)

With

27

alive, it's

14

to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Thursday, January 29th, @ 4:15 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2015-01-29 16:15:00).

At Deadline,

farside22

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from last votecount

Last votecount was page 6, post 135.

Spoiler: Player Vote History D1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology for D1

BlizZard · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:07 pm

In post 117, DrippingGoofball wrote:So, does everyone else have once again a fabulously powerful role that makes you certain your side can't lose?

Are you claiming neighborizer?

In post 159, Toon Fighter wrote:He may have been just kidding, and Awesome is scummy as hell for attacking him like that, but your chainsaw defense of Muffin also reeks of scum protecting one another. +1 scum points for Wisdom + Muffin as partners

^ Ew? Why are you even discussing partnerships on page 7?

In post 163, shos wrote:Can i have a summary Of the postssp far im the dame? anything qorth mentioPing? i dont feel like readong

Well, I'm up for the challenge. Too keep it short: that guy shos could be scum. (Oh and now don't try faking townslips this time around).

~.Zar

BlizZard · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:22 pm

In post 194, Ankamius wrote:The general tone behind these two posts when you put them together. It looks like an attempt to discredit followed by a passive-aggressive tone that suggests an attack while also being vague enough that you can just go right back and claim it wasn't.

Actually, farside's 63 makes me lean toward townish based on tone. OTOH, I think I can empathize with Ank's thought process here (even If I don't agree with the end result), so I'll say townish for now.

In post 249, Awesome wrote:I hate Toon Fighter's +/- system on his claiming that espy was scummy for attacking muffin, which he a) thinks he's scum and b) would like to know if he's serious about that. Sure it did seem like an obvious joke, but some people don't get jokes early/think things could be taken more seriously because they have things running through their minds about the game. But he claims we're scummy for the attack on muffin and then goes oh hey + points to wisdom for chainsawing muffin so they're probably partners. That's wrong and off on so many levels.

I can't believe I'm agreeing with Tammy! (?Tammy?). Basically, the partnership part.

~.Zar

BlizZard · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:26 pm

Sooooo I heard Nobody Special is playing in this game... is it true?

~. Zar

<<< Yes, but he's not eligible for a prod. >>>

Klingoncelt · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:35 pm

In post 259, mastin2 wrote:The awkward moment when the mod realizes that she doesn't need to make a declaration to the mod that she's V/LA.
...But probably should say it to the players.

<<< Yo! Family night, so I'm a bit preoccupied. In general, expect there to be gaps of various sizes--ranging from very small to big whopping huge--in votecount frequency during Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays, for different causes on each day. I'll still be making them, but if you make six pages in a day, expect a votecount only once in those pages, rather than on every page. With luck, Voidedmafia may be able to help balance that out. >>>

I'm going to be somewhat V/LA myself through at least next Tuesday.

BlizZard · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:38 pm

For those curious, this is where I heard the rumor.

Spoiler: That Time NS posted here

Klingon I think you might know why I'm interested, right?

~.Zar

Awesome · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:54 pm

In post 261, BlizZard wrote:

In post 249, Awesome wrote:I hate Toon Fighter's +/- system on his claiming that espy was scummy for attacking muffin, which he a) thinks he's scum and b) would like to know if he's serious about that. Sure it did seem like an obvious joke, but some people don't get jokes early/think things could be taken more seriously because they have things running through their minds about the game. But he claims we're scummy for the attack on muffin and then goes oh hey + points to wisdom for chainsawing muffin so they're probably partners. That's wrong and off on so many levels.

I can't believe I'm agreeing with Tammy! (?Tammy?). Basically, the partnership part.

~.Zar

Scary!

If we're both town and don't get eaten by paranoia, we could do great things!

~~~~~

I went back to 2012 and Toon Fighter has not done the +/- thing. But he was in Aia/Vasta which is why I remember that avatar! I didn't look for anything else in that little mini dive though, just for the + thing. But from skimming that, he doesn't tend to post much regardless but doesn't seem too comfortable as scum. Mostly, I think the +/- system is a way that scum like to try to show they are scum hunting, and it's always something that irks me because it feels so fake. However, some people do it as a matter of play style, and it's not his play style here, so it could be indicative of alignment.

Muffin · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:03 pm

In post 247, Awesome wrote:
In post 211, Muffin wrote:
In post 152, Awesome wrote:Muffin. do you, without a shadow of a doubt, have a true guilty on Ank that would not be manipulated by anything such as him being a miller?

Because this isn't going to be some shit you pull just to get the lynch you want. This is srs bsns and I will push your lynch to hell and back if you are faking a true guilty.

In post 154, Awesome wrote:Tam's sleeping I think. She's got reads, we just set up a proper means of communication. I don't have her reads yet. Not revealing stuff though. We've both got some stewing pots that aren't ready to be spilt yet.

Btw, I am willing to lynch Muffin even if he says it was a joke. BECAUSE we know from the last game the role claimed is entirely possible.

Pedit: The role is possible. A variation of it was in the first one. I'm not ruling this shit out. And given that pretty much everyone in this game knows each other and have caught one another before it is not the kind of thing we need in the game.
Awkward forced tone, and willing to lynch no matter what I say. Not interested in finding out what's going on, just interested in a lynch. Oh look I found scum.

lol that was easy.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Awesome

You found town.

Espeonage has a scum read on you. If you're town, do something to change his mind.

It's not my job to make you try to town read me.

Awesome · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:12 pm

In post 266, Muffin wrote:It's not my job to make you try to town read me.

Oh, but it is. It really really is.

Awesome · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:15 pm

In post 248, Bulbazak wrote:

@Awesome: Keep off the Muffin. He's town.

Oh this reminds me. You're telling me to keep off Muffin because he's town. Why is he town? AND you also have a town read on me, why aren't you also telling Muffin to lay of me?

ProHawk · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:21 pm

Only page 11... lets get on that!

Ika is acting much more strangely than the other game. Although I would like to hear some elaboration on why Mollie thinks PereV is town.

Titus, you are going to need to point out that attack on PV from Farside, cause it doesn't exist... unless by attacking you meant calling him a VI and town an attack??

Which brings us to

In post 141, Ankamius wrote:UNVOTE: shos
VOTE: farside22

Gotta agree. That attack reeks.

Ya no. This is like a sheep, but with a justification for a sheep so it doesn't look like a sheep. A wolf in sheeps clothing if you will.

VOTE: Ankamius

Why is Wisdom speaking for Muffin?

In post 195, Fluminator wrote:Ankamius and Pine I lean town because I doubt mafia would claim miller right off the bat.

This is the awesome logic that Flum used last time I played with him...

Flum, why are you voting NS?

In post 221, Bulbazak wrote:He's the ProHawk of this game. Deal with it.

....I am in this game, when did I become a cliche?

Eyestott and alivechichro might be scum too.

mastin2 · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:32 pm

That votecount took me two hours to write, so I'm half an hour late for family night.
Gotta go, so if you've got any questions, well, I'll answer them, just...not now.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:36 pm

In post 264, BlizZard wrote:For those curious, this is where I heard the rumor.

Spoiler: That Time NS posted here
In post 13, Nobody Special wrote:I like bananas

In post 53, Nobody Special wrote:VOTE: Wisdom

Klingon I think you might know why I'm interested, right?

~.Zar

I do believe so.

VOTE: Nobody Special

mastin2 · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:22 pm

I should mention that I frequently edit public questions to the mod with the response in the post the question was asked in, so if you asked a question in-thread, check your iso; there should be an answer then.

Fluminator · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:50 pm

In post 221, Bulbazak wrote:

In post 195, Fluminator wrote:
I'm thinking the people who are throwing around town reads with no explanation this early are more likely to be scum. Are they meta based? Could people start explaining their reads? If you think they are town, shouldn't you be trying to convince other people they are town?

I'll do what I want. Flum is scum. Shos is town. Muffin is town. FIN3 is avoiding me and might be scum. Eddie might be scum. Alchemist is town.

How do you like that?

Lol, you little troll.

In post 238, Awesome wrote:
In post 140, Fluminator wrote:
In post 129, Awesome wrote:Early town reads on p5 and ankamius.

Don't like fluminators 121, mostly the question to far side about p5 being able to fake that. Question feels wrong. If he's an alt, it feels especially wrong, if he's a newb it just might be newb question.

Fascinating. Is this what's called a chainsaw defense? What're your thoughts on Farside? And Titus?

Uh no.

You were throwing shade on far side's reasoning for town reading p5 without understanding the reason for the read. It had nothing to do with what P5 was faking, and what seemed fake to you?

The question was out of place and didn't feel right.

I have no thoughts on Farside or Titus yet. They haven't posted enough yet. What are your thoughts?

I don't think P5 was faking it. You're question seems a bit loaded.
Titus is one of my stronger town reads. She is actively scum-hunting and explaining her thought pattern. It looks genuine to me.
Farside is a null-slight town. Her response to my question seemed truthful. She hasn't posted much yet though. I don't like how she's not explaining much of what she says, but it seems to the norm for a bunch of players so it's probably just style.

In post 269, ProHawk wrote:

In post 195, Fluminator wrote:Ankamius and Pine I lean town because I doubt mafia would claim miller right off the bat.

This is the awesome logic that Flum used last time I played with him...

wut?

In post 269, ProHawk wrote:
Flum, why are you voting NS?

Because I'm pretty sure I know how to read him. Problem is, he almost never posts. I'm keeping pressure on him so I can get something out of him faster.

Awesome · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:02 pm

In post 273, Fluminator wrote:

In post 238, Awesome wrote:
In post 140, Fluminator wrote:
In post 129, Awesome wrote:Early town reads on p5 and ankamius.

Don't like fluminators 121, mostly the question to far side about p5 being able to fake that. Question feels wrong. If he's an alt, it feels especially wrong, if he's a newb it just might be newb question.

Fascinating. Is this what's called a chainsaw defense? What're your thoughts on Farside? And Titus?

Uh no.

You were throwing shade on far side's reasoning for town reading p5 without understanding the reason for the read. It had nothing to do with what P5 was faking, and what seemed fake to you?

The question was out of place and didn't feel right.

I have no thoughts on Farside or Titus yet. They haven't posted enough yet. What are your thoughts?

I don't think P5 was faking it. You're question seems a bit loaded.
Titus is one of my stronger town reads. She is actively scum-hunting and explaining her thought pattern. It looks genuine to me.
Farside is a null-slight town. Her response to my question seemed truthful. She hasn't posted much yet though. I don't like how she's not explaining much of what she says, but it seems to the norm for a bunch of players so it's probably just style.

How does my question seem loaded?

If you didn't think p5 was faking it, how come you literally said "You don't think this is a mistake scum can make?"?

Why did you ask me to tell you my thoughts on two of your town reads?

flum wrote:

In post 269, ProHawk wrote:

In post 195, Fluminator wrote:Ankamius and Pine I lean town because I doubt mafia would claim miller right off the bat.

This is the awesome logic that Flum used last time I played with him...

wut?

In post 269, ProHawk wrote:
Flum, why are you voting NS?

Because I'm pretty sure I know how to read him. Problem is, he almost never posts. I'm keeping pressure on him so I can get something out of him faster.

Why do you think you know how to read Nobody Special?