Mini 419: Farkle Mafia (Game Over)

[Thesp]

Because:
1) You're sometimes quite stretching in finding links between people.
2) It unhelpful talking about links that make the death of a townie incriminate someone else. It's what the mafia did last night, and it's what you're trying to do to.

1) I disagree that I'm stretching. Sometimes links are tenuous, but scum rarely connect themselves to each other in obvious ways. I use what I can take.
2) I respectfully disagree. Also, how do you know what the mafia were trying to do with their nightkill last night? I'm also intrigued as to where I made these "links that make the death of a townie incriminate someone else" you referred to - can you point them out? You seem to assert I was using them pretty strongly.

[ThAdmiral]

@Dagger: well for one thing there was the lack of a vote when the deadline came. a) That's not very helpful for the town and b) unlike others who had simply disappeared you were active very close to the end.

Farkle:

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (1, 6, 1, 5, 3, 6) = 22

[ThAdmiral]

take out the 5 = 50

Original Roll String: 5d6

5 6-Sided Dice: (6, 2, 1, 2, 4) = 15

[ThAdmiral]

take out the two fives = 100
total = 150

Original Roll String: 3d6

3 6-Sided Dice: (6, 5, 6) = 17

[ThAdmiral]

farkle = 0

[Dagger]

@Thesp: Let me ask you a theoretical question. Would you prefer a CES' lynch or a kilmenator's lynch and why?

@Dagger: well for one thing there was the lack of a vote when the deadline came. a) That's not very helpful for the town and b) unlike others who had simply disappeared you were active very close to the end.

a)I don't vote when I am uncertain (barring early game random vote), unlike scums who I think will vote so that a mislynch will occur.
b)And this is a point against me exactly how? I never abandon a game if I can help it and I always try to be constantly active at the very least.

Now comes the counter question. Why must you exactly leave this type of questioning till tomorrow?

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 2) = 20

[Dagger]

Take 1 out = 100

Original Roll String: 5d6

5 6-Sided Dice: (1, 5, 5, 1, 4) = 16

[Dagger]

Take 1 out = 100

Original Roll String: 4d6

4 6-Sided Dice: (6, 3, 1, 5) = 15

[Dagger]

Take 1 and 5 out = 150

Stop.

Total points = 350

[Thesp]

@Thesp: Let me ask you a theoretical question. Would you prefer a CES' lynch or a kilmenator's lynch and why?

Why make it theoretical?

I think right now, it'd probably be kilmenator, but I'm still discerning info right now. Too early to tell - I'm uncertain here.

[ThAdmiral]

a)I don't vote when I am uncertain (barring early game random vote), unlike scums who I think will vote so that a mislynch will occur.
b)And this is a point against me exactly how? I never abandon a game if I can help it and I always try to be constantly active at the very least.

Now comes the counter question. Why must you exactly leave this type of questioning till tomorrow?

To your b): I was just saying that even though you were still active you didn't vote, as opposed to not voting because you didn't get online. I was just pointing out that you had made a conscious choice not to vote, leading to a no lynch.
That in itself is not so bad if you were opposed to a ces lynch. But since you voted him in

your first post

today it means you weren't, and essentially just wasted a day for the town.
I know you are

now

against a ces lynch, but even there you still haven't provided any reason for this sudden change of heart. (perhaps you thought the easy bandwagon had lost steam so you thought you'd change target?)

To your counter question: I wasn't going to pursue this line of questioning today because to be honest I'm not convinced you're scum. You simply are the best choice (apart from ces) out of a bunch that is hard to get a read on because of the amount of lurkers. I was hoping something would come up overnight that would lead to a stronger case against you or someone else.

[Dagger]

As for your first point, you may refer to my a).

As for your second point, the difference between yesterday and today is that we know Coron is town. That made anyone who pushed hard at Coron's lynch the previous day an immediate logical suspect. CES is one such person.

As for your third point, I did provide a reason. I am far more interested in kilmenator now based on her interactions during the CES' wagon. Sure you can't miss it? I bolded my vote on her after all. Also, your attempt at insinuating that I jumped around on convenient wagons is an attempt at discrediting me as so far as I can see, I am the ONLY person on kilmenator's wagon.

As for your counter to my question, today is as good a day as tomorrow, though I won't pursue this line of argument anymore.

[ThAdmiral]

If it doesn't offend thesp too much I would like to suggest lynching ces and vigging kilmenator. That should make everyone happy (with the exception of those two).
Or to go one step further lynching ces and if he turns up mafia

not vigging

kilmenator as I doubt they are both scum.

[Thesp]

If it doesn't offend thesp too much I would like to suggest lynching ces and vigging kilmenator. That should make everyone happy (with the exception of those two).
Or to go one step further lynching ces and if he turns up mafia

not vigging

kilmenator as I doubt they are both scum.

Let me put it this way - I can live with suggestions to the vig (though I think them unwise), though I think it should be clear that the vig do whatever they want. No sense in letting the mafia get a free idea on whether they should block the vig or not (if they have or can get a roleblocker).

I'm leaning against lynching CES right now. I may change my mind on that.

[bertrand]

If it doesn't offend thesp too much I would like to suggest lynching ces and vigging kilmenator. That should make everyone happy (with the exception of those two).
Or to go one step further lynching ces and if he turns up mafia

not vigging

kilmenator as I doubt they are both scum.

I don't like this post one bit..

[ThAdmiral]

I don't like this post one bit..

Why, because it's logical?
We seem to be at a standstill and these are our two main targets. I don't want to go through another day without a lynch.

[Thesp]

I don't like this post one bit..

Why, because it's logical?
We seem to be at a standstill and these are our two main targets. I don't want to go through another day without a lynch.

What does the vig have to do with the lynch?

[ThAdmiral]

Some people want kilmenator dead, some people want ces dead.
The vig allows us to kill whoever we don't lynch, hence people will be more likely to go along with a lynch, hence a lynch will be more likely to happen today.

[kilmenator]

Some people want kilmenator dead, some people want ces dead.
The vig allows us to kill whoever we don't lynch, hence people will be more likely to go along with a lynch, hence a lynch will be more likely to happen today.

Please allow me to fully claim before any decisions about killing me are made.

Plus could someone please outline a case against me, so that I am able to defend myself.

[bertrand]

I don't like this post one bit..

Why, because it's logical?
We seem to be at a standstill and these are our two main targets. I don't want to go through another day without a lynch.

Because it's settling up chain kills and speeding up the day.

"Hmm, it seems everyone has narrowed it down to two people, and it seems they're both town! Perfect! All I have to do is suggest the lynching of one and the vigging of another and everyone is happy! And it gets rid of two townies! And I don't even get blamed 'cause I didn't start either wagon! Sounds like a plan!"

[ThAdmiral]

Alright.

Lynch ces and then vig me if he's not scum.

[Nai]

Finally got a replacement for a3maniac. Mokina will be replacing.

[bertrand]

Alright.

Lynch ces and then vig me if he's not scum.

Are you that convinced he's scum?

Because if we do this and you're wrong, we're screwed. I don't like this plan either.

[ThAdmiral]

Perhaps I am being a bit hasty.
I really do think he's scum though.

[Mokina]

Alright... I'll review the mafia element of this game in a bit, once I have had my Farkle Goodness.

Original Roll String: 6d6

6 6-Sided Dice: (6, 5, 1, 2, 5, 1) = 20