Mini 462: Just another game of Mafia... over

mnowax · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:14 pm

It is now day two.

There are two people dead from last night though.

Poor Jenter. He was found dead in his bed. He was just an innocent mason.

Rishi is also dead. He was another innocent mason.

Nine alive means five to Lynch. Get to it Town!

Jenter Brolincani · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:48 pm

Oh darnit. My whole masonpair?

Goooo TOWN!

~N9V~ · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:08 pm

Isay we go after who hasn't claimed mason yet. I don't know whothat is, but if someone posts who,I'll vote.

Tarhalindur · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:32 pm

I'm a bit surprised that I'm still alive - I guess the Mafia decided that the masons were a better target than the doc. For the record, I protected hand banana last night.

Khelvaster, Panzerjager - investigation results?

N9V, the non-Masons are hand banana (claimed vig), Panzer and Khelvaster (both claimed cop), me (claimed doc), and Falcone and acfan (both unclaimed). I suspect that our best plan is to look into Khelvaster/Panzerjager today, seeing as Nekka-Lucifer cut short the discussion about those two yesterday.

Khelvaster · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:52 pm

Jenter and rishi were masons???

AlSleet is, in fact, an innocent mason. My PM specified that he was a mason, so there are no sanity issues.

Khelvaster · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:53 pm

EBWOP: On second thought, I suppose it could have also said he was guilty and a mason...I'll go under the assumption that I am sane at this point.

Khelvaster · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:01 pm

EBWOP Again: I take full responsibility for convincing HB to vig Jenter. If you guys think that this would be enough to justify lynching me today, then so be it. I am probably doing the town a disservice by being alive.

Falcone · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:57 pm

1.

I wanted to do this yesterday, but Nekka got himself killed by quoting his PM: I'm also a doc.

I'd prefer not to give my night choice before as1983fan has claimed, and before hand banana has given his night choice. Reasons should be obvious.

2.

Ac1983fan needs to claim as soon as possible. Hand banana should tell us whether he tried to kill someone last night, and why. Also, Panzerjager needs to give his result.

3.

FoS: Khelvaster

. How do you know hand banana killed Jenter?

By the way, what was your result on AlSleet? "Innocent", "Mason", "Innocent Mason", or something else?

Falcone · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:02 pm

1.

I wanted to do this yesterday, but Nekka got himself killed by quoting his PM: I'm also a doc.

I'd prefer not to give my night choice before as1983fan has claimed, and before hand banana has given his night choice. Reasons should be obvious.

2.

Ac1983fan needs to claim as soon as possible. Hand banana should tell us whether he tried to kill someone last night, and why. Also, Panzerjager needs to give his result.

3.

FoS: Khelvaster

. How do you know hand banana killed Jenter?

By the way, what was your result on AlSleet? "Innocent", "Mason", "Innocent Mason", or something else?

Khelvaster · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:15 pm

Falcone wrote:
3.

FoS: Khelvaster
. How do you know hand banana killed Jenter?

By the way, what was your result on AlSleet? "Innocent", "Mason", "Innocent Mason", or something else?

My result on AlSleet was innocent mason.

I believe hand banana killed Jenter because

1. Hand banana needed guidance, and I specifically gave him guidance, as well as presenting a pretty good case against Jenter. The day was then ended prematurely.

2. There was a theory floating around that there were scum-mason pairs. It would have been fairly easy for the mafia to set up a D2 jenter lynch if Rishi, part of the jenter-rishi pair, were dead, leaving Jenter, a highly scummy person and the other half of the pair.

Your bringing up that question made me think about who advanced the pairings in the first place, so for now I will

FoS: n9v

hand banana · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:34 am

damn!!!!
yes, i killed jenter (sorry man

)
it killed him because i was 100% convinced that every mason pair was consisted of one scum+one town, and rishi gave me a very strong town vibe.

i was thinking between him and alsleet, but i thought alsleet (being nekka's patner) is the clearest choice for town now tat nekka is dead and turned up innocent, and then all i need to do is to choose elias or his partner on night 2 and this game is over.

i really have no idea what to do now, and i guess we're screwed. assuming it was 9-3, we now have 6-3 in favor of town.
but if it was 8-4, we now have 5-4 and it's almost LyLo.

and i think maybe it could be 5-4 since we only had one mafia kill (rishi). no 2 mafia families.
so it's either 4 mafia alive (because there's way to much power roles, and game needs to be balanced), or half of these power roles are liars and they are mafia.

hand banana · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:56 am

khelv wrote: who advanced the pairings in the first place

i guess that was me.

Khelvaster · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:11 am

hand banana wrote:
khelv wrote: who advanced the pairings in the first place
i guess that was me.

damn my memory...n9v was the one who brought up the rishi/major FoS jenter, then you brought up the pairings.

Un FoS: n9v

FoS: Falcone

Why wouldn't the mafia kill the doc?

AlSleet · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:47 am

Khelvaster wrote:
hand banana wrote:
khelv wrote: who advanced the pairings in the first place
i guess that was me.
damn my memory...n9v was the one who brought up the rishi/major FoS jenter, then you brought up the pairings.
Un FoS: n9v

FoS: Falcone

Why wouldn't the mafia kill the doc?

How would they know he was doc? I don't remember him claiming at all.

AlSleet · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:49 am

hand banana wrote:damn!!!!
yes, i killed jenter (sorry man )
it killed him because i was 100% convinced that every mason pair was consisted of one scum+one town, and rishi gave me a very strong town vibe.

i was thinking between him and alsleet, but i thought alsleet (being nekka's patner) is the clearest choice for town now tat nekka is dead and turned up innocent, and then all i need to do is to choose elias or his partner on night 2 and this game is over.

i really have no idea what to do now, and i guess we're screwed. assuming it was 9-3, we now have 6-3 in favor of town.
but if it was 8-4, we now have 5-4 and it's almost LyLo.

and i think maybe it could be 5-4 since we only had one mafia kill (rishi). no 2 mafia families.
so it's either 4 mafia alive (because there's way to much power roles, and game needs to be balanced), or half of these power roles are liars and they are mafia.

I think it'd be better to go after nonclaimers(I think there are a couple) because two mason pairs turned out to be legit I think there's a good chance the third one would be as well. Yeah, it's strange, but I wouldn't put it past this odd set up.

hand banana · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:02 am

no...

two mason pairs turned out to be legit

i don't agree, and i don't see why would you.
ONE pair is legit.
the other is completely unknown to us, and your mason partner was innocent but that means nothing.
and since mod is writing "innocent mason", i guess there must be other masons.
but i will not press this idea, and i will not shoot at masons any more if town disagrees .. . and i don't even know should i trust town any more, cause in a situation of 5-4 my night kill is the only thing that keeps us from LyLo. and right now, i don't have a single confirmed townie i could trust. we have 2 cops, 2 docs 3 masons and a pair of unclaimed guys.. i don't like this at all.

hand banana · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:06 am

eidt: only one unclaimed.

Khelvaster · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:50 am

Damn...I really am going crazy.

Un: FoS Falcone

Do you think someone could get a list of everyone and their claims? That would make everything so much easier.

hand banana · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:19 am

1:Falcone - claimed Doc
2:Khelvaster - claimed Cop
3:Elias_the_thief - claimed Mason
4:hand banana - claimed Vig
5:Belgarion ~N9V~ - Claimed Mason
6:Panzerjager - Claimed Cop
7:AlSleet - Claimed Mason
10:ac1983fan - made no claim
12:Tarhalindur - Claimed Doc

Dead - 3/12

9:Nekka-Lucifer, Innocent Mason Modkilled D1
11:Jenter Brolincani, Innocent Mason, Killed N1
8:rolandofthewhite Rishi, Innocent m\Mason Killed N1

ac1983fan · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:07 am

I haven't been paying attention to this game, its best that you get someone to replace me....

Khelvaster · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:03 am

The mafia is playing WIFOM regarding Tar's claim, but the fact that he claimed d1 makes me think he is scum. Did he need to claim d1?

Tarhalindur · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:01 am

Last I'd heard, we were massclaiming yesterday, thanks to those 6! mason claims..

hand banana · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:24 am

where is panzer and his investigation?
since we entered the day before the deadline for night choices, he must have been here if he was cop.
more and more, i believe we have one doc and one cop, 2 fake scum claims. and maybe 1 or 2 scum as masons too.

and ac1983fan situation is intriguing.. there can't be just ONE vanilla townie. either we have fake townie claims or he's scum. in that case, i believe we have 4 scumz. him , one fake cop+doc and one hiding in masons..

PJ. · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:29 am

Panzer has been in LA and work. I sent in my Night choice the day mod MKed Nekka.

Elias is scum.

Tarhalindur · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:44 am

Guilty investigation, eh? Let's see what happens if we lynch Elias:

Best case scenario: We lynch elias, he's scum. We've killed a scumbag and have a mostly-confirmed cop (only other options are Panzer bussing a scumbuddy and a double mafia, and we can sort both of those out later).

Worst case scenario: We lynch elias, he's town. Hand banana vigs Panzer tonight, hence trading a mason for a scumbag (not a bad trade, esp. in a mini) and making Khelvaster a mostly-confirmed cop (only other possibilities are no real cop or acfan being the real cop, both unlikely IMO) and all but confirming AlSleet as pro-town mason.

That's not even a bad worst case scenario.

Vote: elias_the_thief