NY 179: Cute and Fluffy Mafia (Town Win)


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Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:09 am

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VoteCount 6.3


d3x (3):
NakedJogger, randomidget, Dripping Goofball
dragonspawn (0):

Dripping Goofball (0):

Garmr (0):

Kthxbye (1):
Nero Cain
NakedJogger (1):
d3x
Nero Cain (0):

randomidget (0):

TheDudeAbides (0):


Not Voting
- dragonspawn, Garmr, Kthxbye, TheDudeAbides

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.


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Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:26 pm

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VOTE: rm
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Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:41 pm

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VOTE: RM
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Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:24 pm

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I want this to be very clear to everyone. We don't have time to run completely through the scrubs and the Hoodies. If you think there's Scum in the Hood, that needs to be priority #1.

As a side note, my death will ConfTown Kthx. With the Masons, that secures 3 ConfTown.

These are things that need to be on the table and understood by all since we have less than a week to deadline.
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Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:26 pm

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why would your death confirm ktnx????
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Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:28 pm

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really? :facepalm:
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:58 pm

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In post 2629, Garmr wrote:why would your death confirm ktnx????

I don't think it would. d3x has the same info you do.
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Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:16 pm

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SC not doubting the four scum thing is pretty much just WIFOM. SC could have not doubted it in order to make us think that way on purpose, or SC could have not doubted it because it's true. SC not doubting it doesn't make me lean either way as SC could have made a mistake or made an educated play to make us think there are only 4.

I'm pretty much at the point that I think any one of you all could be scum. I see scum and town motivation from pretty much everyone.

The only person I can't see any town motivation from is RM. The ONLY reason I keep doubting my read on him is because I'm alive. This could be because there is more than one scum left, it could be that RM was taking a risk in thinking I'd doubt myself on him, or it could be because RM is just that bad.

All I know is if RM isn't scum, I don't wanna be around come end game if we haven't lynched him and if he is scum, well, we should lynch the shit outa him.

The fact that I think DS and Garmr are actually masons and voting RM right now gives me good feelings as well.

VOTE: RM

I think this is the best play today.

As for d3x confirming me town, well, there are alive players who have the same info. That doesn't make d3x confirmed town, but it SHOULD make you think along those lines. Not only have I explained that his scum meta doesn't exist in this game, but for what purpose would scum-d3x (whether or not there are more than 1 scum left) confirm me as town? Unless d3x and I are both scum, which I know isn't the case, scum wouldn't want to confirm anyone as town. The only way this is remotely possible is if d3x is scum, there are 2 scum left, and he felt this was his best play at getting me lynched tomorrow. Even then it's a stretch seeing as if he's scum and was lynched today, he'd flip scum and his 'kthx is conf town after my flip' would be null and void. I dunno, I just don't see this play from a scum-d3x.

pool for today for me is:
RM
DGB
NJ
Nero
TDA
pretty much in that order.
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Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:41 pm

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Garmr, DGB, RM, Nero and maybe TDA again should answer my question and then we should really lynch d3x today.
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Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:45 pm

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@Jogger- I flip Town, do you Lynch the rest of the Hood?
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Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:02 pm

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I never thoight kthx was conftown. I think he is probably town due to the amount of content he is generating. Interesting how he votes me immediately after the masons do. Also neither ds or garmr provided reasoning.
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Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:00 pm

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In post 2633, FakedBlogger wrote:Garmr, DGB, RM, Nero and maybe TDA again should answer my question and then we should really lynch d3x today.


I don't read ktnx as confirmed town just really likely town. With out a power role clear I never read people as confirmed town.
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Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:04 pm

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ignoring D3X's claim that he's conftown, why do you think he's likely town?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:04 am

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In post 2637, Nero Cain wrote:ignoring D3X's claim that he's conftown, why do you think he's likely town?


Going to be honest it's mostly gut and I'm mostly sheeping ds at the moment. But there has one thing that's been bothering me about kthx.
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Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:04 am

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has been one thing
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Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:26 am

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After looking at the thing that bothered I started noticing small things.
Originally I was going to say that kthnx has got every single person scum flip as a scum read and looked townie as hell and still hasn't been shot and that was my only problem with him but then I started looking deeper. I started noticing something his interactions with the flipped scum seem extremely off.

I noticed has been constantly trying to push rm over the other scum team members even when the rm would get stopped.

Spoiler: His interactions with Flubber
This makes me feel uneasy His interactions where just questions early on post



In post 813, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 764, Kthxbye wrote:@Flubber: What is your read of RM?

Null. Will compromise a lynch on him if need be.

Dgb wagon isn't on null though. It's on scum. Just sayin'

This sounds more like they are trying to organize a rm wagon.

In post 820, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 814, Kthxbye wrote:
In post 813, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 764, Kthxbye wrote:@Flubber: What is your read of RM?

Null. Will compromise a lynch on him if need be.

Dgb wagon isn't on null though. It's on scum. Just sayin'


Well, if this is the case, I'm not sure I understand why you're ok with compromising on the guy voting DGB with the reasoning of
In post 745, Randomnamechange wrote:I am scumreading DGB because they were spewing out reads without showing any scumreading and scumreading like a third of the player list.


Mayhaps you could explain that?


I'm voting dgb for my reasons, not his.

That read is low hanging fruit but it's not inconsistent or a straw grasp.

This really isn't pushing flubber but it seems his trying to connect him to rm

In post 910, Kthxbye wrote:
In post 909, Flubbernugget wrote:Kthx what's your read on ika right now?

Annoyed? Guess that's not really a read.

Could be scum going for the 'lazy-town rebel' attitude. The thing is, could be town just being the lazy-town rebel. So...null leaning scum. Don't think I'd cry if I had to switch over for compromise.

This feels like a slip we know his annoyed at ika and seems to be setting up for a bust if he has to and venting his frustrations to a scum buddy

We eventually see ktnx do little jabs at flubber while still pushing hard on random midget but flubber doesn't resist the pushes at all and ignores them. Which I find extremely interesting.



Spoiler: Ika reasoning
Even through Ika was pretending to town reading Ktnx he voted him.
In post 1076, ika wrote:eh ran an iso and i dont see anything that resembles stong town. he seems disintrested about the game in general.

SC why do you feel disintrested?

pedit: VOTE: kthxbye

there is that better?

This seems like a shitty attempt at distancing from ktnx. Ktnx seems pretty frustrated with ika I feel like kthnx pain having a shit scum buddy (fire and ice zekrom gah) It seems like a real emotional slip.

Also earlier ktnx was trying to stop a ika wagon from happening even through ika was a null-scummy. He did say
In post 1027, Kthxbye wrote:
@everyone:
Why RM is scum.

-RM was on the pen wagon yesterday with no reason what-so-ever. His vote comes just 10 post after he comments that AA (now ika) should be the lynch for D1. RM flipping scum clears ika for this alone.


and also

In post 1589, Kthxbye wrote:Someone said it in reverse already, but if ika flips town, you all owe me a fucking RM quickwagon tomorrow.


Funny how he was saying that a Ika lynch clears rm yet he still pushes Rm after



Strange cougar-
Well there's nothing really on him except he gives him a passive town read for not liking the people on his wagon and strange cougar doesn't interact with him at all a trait that is shared with every other scum flip the only exception is when ika talks to strange cougar which is isn't even a real communication. In fact Ika interacted with every flipped scum.

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Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:49 am

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:roll:

You should know better Garmr.
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Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:51 am

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In post 2635, Randomnamechange wrote:I never thoight kthx was conftown. I think he is probably town due to the amount of content he is generating. Interesting how he votes me immediately after the masons do. Also neither ds or garmr provided reasoning.

I think it's interesting that you can post almost immediately after getting votes on you but have to be prodded to post without voted on you. I also find it interesting that its happened more than once this game.
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Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:08 am

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In post 2634, d3x wrote:@Jogger- I flip Town, do you Lynch the rest of the Hood?


If you flip scum I'm tomorrow's lynch so no.
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Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:09 am

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EBWOP
I mean if you flip town
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Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:24 am

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In post 2635, Randomnamechange wrote:I never thoight kthx was conftown. I think he is probably town due to the amount of content he is generating. Interesting how he votes me immediately after the masons do. Also neither ds or garmr provided reasoning.


You want to know why I'm finding you suspicious?

1) you still aren't paying attention.
2) peace dies and you come in asking why he didn't flip mason.
3) zero of the confirmed scum voted on your wagon.

Whether you are scum or not, I don't know. But I find it unwise to take that risk. And if there is one more scum, it's quite possible that there are none in the hood.
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Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:28 am

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Garmr, if kth is scum so is d3x. It would probably be wiser to kill d3x first then.
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Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:55 am

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In post 2646, dragonspawn wrote:Garmr, if kth is scum so is d3x. It would probably be wiser to kill d3x first then.


I still don't get why dex and kth have to be the same alignment.
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Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:34 am

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Is d3x town?
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Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:00 am

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In post 2648, DrippingGoofball wrote:Is d3x town?


no idea.

if d3x is town then he is claiming kth is town for a reason.

if he isn't then kth isn't town confirmed.

either way d3x should to first.

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