Mini 469 - Self Guided Mafia - Game Over.

[Xdaamno]

No, we haven't. The scum haven't learned anything more than the first few posts, and I'm following up a scum trail that could lead to important info.

[dylan41985]

oh my gosh xdaamno, i was just reminding people

[Xdaamno]

...?

Don't take offence, it's just a game.

[creampuffeater]

No, we haven't. The scum haven't learned anything more than the first few posts, and I'm following up a scum trail that could lead to important info.

I get the feeling that is WAY off.

[Skruffs]

Hey, tinkerers! Imma gunna start prodding! And you don't wanna see what I'll be proddin' with!

[schismatized]

Wow, this is confusing. CPE, did you get the PM?

[Xdaamno]

No, we haven't. The scum haven't learned anything more than the first few posts, and I'm following up a scum trail that could lead to important info.

I get the feeling that is WAY off.

... Uhm?

[Jenter Brolincani]

I'm guessing that PM was the result of someone's role...

[PJ.]

I believe everyone got it.

[creampuffeater]

yes... thats why I believe I was trying to silence you before you revealed it to anybody who possibly DIDDNT hear it and wanted to make some case or something.

[schismatized]

How can we know if it was true or not?

[Ms Piggy]

I believe another helpful way out of this for me is to claim what I submitted. NK Bomb; (And possible lynch bomb; I submitted this but it was probably overpowered, not sure) This is clearly a pro-town role, so if anyone has this, probably don't roleclaim but know that I'm not scum.

Seriously, I think Xdaemno needs to go.

unvote, vote Xdaemno

Back to him.

[Ms Piggy]

Vote: rajrhcpfreak

Bad arguments.

Looks like a very stupid vote.

Heh. I find it funny those under attack label things such as 'Piggy's votes were pressure' completely stupid or scummy. I think not realising that he wasn't actually trying to lynch someone (Because there's only two conceivable reasons for a vote, in normal play: Wanting to lynch or applying pressure) is the stupid/scummy part.

Basically repeats what other people say.

For the record. rajrhcpfreak is my lynch for today, if I was forced to choose.

Mmkay. That's either PRed townie or sympathy scum. Probably the former, IMO.

none of this is helpful.

Unvote, vote rajrhcpfreak

Right, he votes Ms piggy for hopping, when I do the same and am persuaded to think differently by Xdaammo he calls it scummy and a 'good catch'. Logical ****.

He then blatantly tries to get me speedlynched. Saying someone, anyone, is the play for today on PAGE 3 is ridiculous.

Basically these are my reasons for thinking he is scum.

i said that theos observations were a good catch.

speed lynch? ha. you wont be speed lynched unless you refuse to claim. my statements saying "your the play" is just to convince people to bandwagon you to a claim. then we can decide if your lying.

Eh, where do I start. He won't be speed lynched if or if not he refuses to claim; that's loaded. Whether he's scum or he has a role that shouldn't be claimed strategically, I'd still not speedlynch him, since we can't distinguish between the two.

page 3? well, i represent a growing sentiment on this site that doesn't fool around, a group on this site that enjoys fast games. and why shouldn't we bandwagon you to claim if we've found scum on page 3.

Also crap logic. Bandwagoning to claim is the alleged way of finding out whether he's scum. You can't bandwagon him for being scum if you haven't even got the claim yet.

personally i don't want to sit around masturbating in my own words for twenty pages waiting for scum to trip me up and convince the town to lynch me on a stupid technicality. your actions today, following the front runners and agreeing with them comes out pretty scummy. and your tag team effort with Xdaammo is intriguing. i want to say its on the scummy side but ill wait to judge it after we deal with you.

And this is the worst part. It seems, in every game where I trust someone, it gets pounced on (And always by scum so far). Is it

really

that hard to believe I find a player with good points trustworthy instead of me (allegedly) latching onto my scum partner for help and hoping nobody would notice? An annoying part of mafia scum it's people's trust of well-known conscious scum tells. Since they're conscious and well-known forms an oxymoron; if they're well known scum tells, they wouldn't consciously be performed.

Horrible post. Talks like speedlynching actually could happen.

-_-'

It was a

lot

more helpful telling us, anyway, thanks. The problem is you've just made a massive scum pairing between me and you if you get lynched, because you're either scum or telling the truth XD

That is scummy in my opinion, for reasons.

I'm actually looking at the people attacking me now mainly because it's so sheepish and ridiculous. JDodge has given a terrible point, and others have latched on without any additional reasons.

Instead of trying to defend against the votes on you, you say other people are making terrible points.



Your defense against the posts were just saying that you fully presented and defended the arguments, which was completely bull.

what we should be looking at is helpfullness to the town, and Xdaamno isnt helpfull

Have you actually read most of my posts? Before I came under attack I was easily one of the most helpful players. I looked into almost every point and applied pressure to loads of people to guage reactions. Seriously, go back and check.

More and more .Just silly.

[Ms Piggy]

And this is the worst part. It seems, in every game where I trust someone, it gets pounced on (And always by scum so far). Is it

really

that hard to believe I find a player with good points trustworthy instead of me (allegedly) latching onto my scum partner for help and hoping nobody would notice? An annoying part of mafia scum it's people's trust of well-known conscious scum tells. Since they're conscious and well-known forms an oxymoron; if they're well known scum tells, they wouldn't consciously be performed.

[/quote]

EBWOP: Uses metagaming about how he gets pounced on. Oops quoted wrong part.

[Tarhalindur]

Sorry for the absence - I've been a little low on access lately.

I need to take a closer look at Panzer. My gut is telling me that his play is very similar to his play in an ongoing game where he died and came up scum.

[Ms Piggy]

That's not a good reason, and besides, you can't really use an ongoing game well to determine whether a person is scum or not. I just think that's quite a fishy, or shall I say, questionable reason, to go after someone.

Also, the fact that we are on Day 1, and we have had a load of one=liners, and that stuff about how we all received a PM about someone, that lone reason backed up by an ongoing game where he was scum wouldn't be enough.

[Ms Piggy]

I need to look over Jenter - something about how he's playing seems off. Unfortunately, I'm short on time right now (check V/LA), so

FoS: Jenter Brolincani

until I can actually do a reread.

I just looked back, and you haven't posted in several days, but the last post said that you were going to take a closer look at Jenter. How come it's suddenly Panzer now, after you said Jenter's playing was a bit off?

Seriously, that just doesn't fit my belly talk.

[PJ.]

I play the same in every game Tar, so analyzing playstyle is wasted on me.

[theopor_COD]

I could happily advocate lynching Xdammno or Jenter Broccoli from a quick skim. Mind I need a indepth read since my laptop issues.

[Xdaamno]

Vote: rajrhcpfreak

Bad arguments.

Looks like a very stupid vote.

For what reason? You've voted without much reasoning at all too, you know, so I could easily say the same about you.

Heh. I find it funny those under attack label things such as 'Piggy's votes were pressure' completely stupid or scummy. I think not realising that he wasn't actually trying to lynch someone (Because there's only two conceivable reasons for a vote, in normal play: Wanting to lynch or applying pressure) is the stupid/scummy part.

Basically repeats what other people say.

Complete bs. I was the first person to say that.

For the record. rajrhcpfreak is my lynch for today, if I was forced to choose.

Mmkay. That's either PRed townie or sympathy scum. Probably the former, IMO.

none of this is helpful.

I know, it's practically nomrla conversation. Once again, I could look back at your posts and find more than two where you haven't made a massivly strong argument.

Unvote, vote rajrhcpfreak

Right, he votes Ms piggy for hopping, when I do the same and am persuaded to think differently by Xdaammo he calls it scummy and a 'good catch'. Logical ****.

He then blatantly tries to get me speedlynched. Saying someone, anyone, is the play for today on PAGE 3 is ridiculous.

Basically these are my reasons for thinking he is scum.

i said that theos observations were a good catch.

speed lynch? ha. you wont be speed lynched unless you refuse to claim. my statements saying "your the play" is just to convince people to bandwagon you to a claim. then we can decide if your lying.

Eh, where do I start. He won't be speed lynched if or if not he refuses to claim; that's loaded. Whether he's scum or he has a role that shouldn't be claimed strategically, I'd still not speedlynch him, since we can't distinguish between the two.

page 3? well, i represent a growing sentiment on this site that doesn't fool around, a group on this site that enjoys fast games. and why shouldn't we bandwagon you to claim if we've found scum on page 3.

Also crap logic. Bandwagoning to claim is the alleged way of finding out whether he's scum. You can't bandwagon him for being scum if you haven't even got the claim yet.

personally i don't want to sit around masturbating in my own words for twenty pages waiting for scum to trip me up and convince the town to lynch me on a stupid technicality. your actions today, following the front runners and agreeing with them comes out pretty scummy. and your tag team effort with Xdaammo is intriguing. i want to say its on the scummy side but ill wait to judge it after we deal with you.

And this is the worst part. It seems, in every game where I trust someone, it gets pounced on (And always by scum so far). Is it

really

that hard to believe I find a player with good points trustworthy instead of me (allegedly) latching onto my scum partner for help and hoping nobody would notice? An annoying part of mafia scum it's people's trust of well-known conscious scum tells. Since they're conscious and well-known forms an oxymoron; if they're well known scum tells, they wouldn't consciously be performed.

Horrible post. Talks like speedlynching actually could happen.

Got me mixed up with rajhgifck here? My parts are in bold. I don't mention speedlynching once it that paragraph.

-_-'

It was a

lot

more helpful telling us, anyway, thanks. The problem is you've just made a massive scum pairing between me and you if you get lynched, because you're either scum or telling the truth XD

That is scummy in my opinion, for reasons.

For reasons you decide not to tell us? I meant if anyone would look back, they'd see a massive unitentional scum pairing. Me stating this would help me in futurew if anyone brought it up. 'For reasons' is just stupid.

I'm actually looking at the people attacking me now mainly because it's so sheepish and ridiculous. JDodge has given a terrible point, and others have latched on without any additional reasons.

Instead of trying to defend against the votes on you, you say other people are making terrible points.

Your defense against the posts were just saying that you fully presented and defended the arguments, which was completely bull.

Uhm, NO to your first paragraph. What I did was defend JDodge's point,

and then

say this. I didn't defend it twice because that wouyld be unnesecary. This is grasping.

When I sat I've fully defended something, it's because I already have in the past, not because I'm doing it in the current post. You've taken a single post that wasn't even a defense and accused it for lack of a defense when I already had made one.

what we should be looking at is helpfullness to the town, and Xdaamno isnt helpfull

Have you actually read most of my posts? Before I came under attack I was easily one of the most helpful players. I looked into almost every point and applied pressure to loads of people to guage reactions. Seriously, go back and check.

More and more. Just silly.

My god, the stupidity of anyone who believes this stuff is horrible. 'More and more, Just Silly'? What kind of attack is that? There hasn't beena single peice of undeniable evidence against me, and I've just easily knocked down every single argument in this whole post. If you still believe I'm scum and you're town, you shoulda joined a newbie game instead

[Ms Piggy]

I really don't like your responses. You either said complete bull about how that's all not true, or said everything was stupid and how others are horrible if they want to vote you and think you're scum. About that Raj part, notice in Post 163, that I used EBDWOP to clarify that part.

Confirm vote: Xdaemno

[Xdaamno]

I really don't like your responses. You either said complete bull about how that's all not true, or said everything was stupid and how others are horrible if they want to vote you and think you're scum.

Uhm, no I didn't, I presented completely valid arguments. How about you actually read them? Almost every single one of your posts has attempted to lynch me, but not actually put any good points across.

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP: For clarification, I did say things were bull and not true, but I had sown that into my actual arguments. You make it sound like I was just denying things rather than proving them wrong.

[rajrhcpfreak]

fyi i think i submitted a roleblocker too.

Xdaamno is an interesting subject. Around page 4 or 5 i started to believe him thinking that in his eyes i am very wrong about him and maybe Jenter is just scum.

But why is he trying to protect him so much by going after me?

I never directly voted for him. ive mentioned my suspicions of him and hes on my scumdar.

this was my first post mentioning him was #68 and it was just entertaining the idea of the possibility of him and Jenter being a scum pair:

(jenter's) actions today, following the front runners and agreeing with them comes out pretty scummy. and your tag team effort with Xdaammo is intriguing. i want to say its on the scummy side but ill wait to judge it after we deal with you.

After looking back i think i'm ready to

unvote

vote: Xdaamno

your right Xdaamno, you said that theres no arguments in that one post. i was only stating my observations. which now its even more apparent that you two are playing as a team.

[Ms Piggy]

I really don't like your responses. You either said complete bull about how that's all not true, or said everything was stupid and how others are horrible if they want to vote you and think you're scum.

Uhm, no I didn't, I presented completely valid arguments. How about you actually read them? Almost every single one of your posts has attempted to lynch me, but not actually put any good points across.

The thing that is bothering me about Xdaemno is his tone, as well as his actions, but more the tone. He also discounts anything you/I say against him by not defending, but saying how bad it is. At least, that's how it seems.

Especially that earlier post, the really long one.