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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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Cogito Ergo Sum YARR!
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Llamarble Mafia Scum
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In post 128, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:'Marble, why aren't you voting Cheery Dog? You must know this Psyche-thing is kind of weak given that he's being perfectly open about it.
Nacho assigns Cheery Dog some townpoints for admitting he took a scum token. I'd like to hear more from CD.
Who are Cheery's buddies?-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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In post 52, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:43
50 - Case in point re tokens. This post makes me think CD could be town and it's something he could quite easily say as scum.
In post 130, Llamarble wrote:In post 128, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
Nacho assigns Cheery Dog some townpoints for admitting he took a scum token.
La la la.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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In post 120, Oversoul wrote:I think Llama is town.
I think TTH is probably town.
Zach is town. I hope. I hope I can do what we did last time.
VOTE: Psyche
Why is Zach town?
Why are you voting Psyche?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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In post 76, Llamarble wrote:In post 23, Cheery Dog wrote:In post 18, Llamarble wrote:But is he always dunk?
Ika is scum with Cheery Dog. Doesn't matter who the third one is. Zach Oversoul Psyche can be town.
This seems like good reads for now.
VOTE: ika
This seems inattentive. How come a list including you-scum is good?
In post 50, Cheery Dog wrote:In post 43, Regfan wrote:"Cheery may have used a scum token"
I'll solve this question for you, I did attempt to use a scum token, still rolled town.
What do you think you'd have said regarding this had you rolled scum?
You'll notice I said for now, it's going to become not good once I'm more in the game, I don't expect to lynch off it.
I can't be sure as it hadn't happened, I think I'd try to ignore it. Maybe discuss with transited, but the while thing is a hypothetical situation and most can know for sure.Holder of the Longest Continuous Weekly Mafiascum Post Record. 1 July 2012 - 16 Feb 2023
*It may be held by someone else if you discount the major downtime in 2012 and 2014, I'm not doing the research.-
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Oversoul Survivor
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In post 132, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 120, Oversoul wrote:I think Llama is town.
I think TTH is probably town.
Zach is town. I hope. I hope I can do what we did last time.
VOTE: Psyche
Why is Zach town?
Why are you voting Psyche?
Zach was the type of person to fairly exclusively only like to play town. I'm hoping he is still that type of person!
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TellTaleHeart Mafia Scum
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In post 128, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:'Marble, why aren't you voting Cheery Dog? You must know this Psyche-thing is kind of weak given that he's being perfectly open about it.
Hello. You can have elk's spot in my scum pile now.-
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Llamarble Mafia Scum
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I've admittedly been a little more manipulative this game than usual, but I there's anymore benefit to be had from that.
Felt weird voting Psyche for the sake of doing something while I waited for CD to post. Patience is hard.
TOWN:
Llamarble
Regfan - He hasn't really done anything yet but 2 town tokens :doubles: his chance of being town.
Zach - I expect at least one token from him as well. Town are more likely to see their targets as 'squirming.'
BBT - Confidence, readiness to change direction. #84 particularly solid.
ika - Attitude, 'Elk is prob scum for calling me town.'
Oversoul - Followed a reasonable path so far.
TTH - 81, 135 are both moves in the right direction.
CES - 44 & 128 are solid but within scumrange.
Psyche - Pretty much content-free.
Elk - Kinda has the figuring out the game tone but he hasn't really bitten in, works with Cheery, and mostly speaks in generalities.
Ankamius - All he's provided is a low-relevance vote.
Aeronaut - seemed kinda town on a previous readthrough but works just fine as scum.
Cheery Dog - A scum token makes you twice as likely to be scum as a random person. This is sufficient to lynch barring impressive play I haven't seen yet. I don't think CD realized how strong the tokens are.
:SCUM
VOTE: Cheery Dog
I'm kind of tired so I may have derped some of these, but this is round 0.5 I guess.-
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Llamarble Mafia Scum
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Maybe he didn't understand how hard it's going to be for us to justify lynching anyone other than him today with this information in play.
Maybe he was concerned people wouldn't believe him if he didn't claim his token and wanted to get in front of the problem, hoping to be townread for doing so.
Cheery Dog is currently ~twice as likely as any other player in this game to be scum. He better do some impressive things if he doesn't want to die.-
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Ankamius Survivor
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ika Survivor
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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bbt is reforming himself a little, but brushing me off and doing that is just common sense
his explanation that he was more interested in trying to get me to join the ika wagon when he voted me comes off as less a defense than an example of my problem with our interaction: the ika was a lolwagon, designed purely to make it easy to figure out who's scum; treating it as an end in itself is just strangeYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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In post 62, Oversoul wrote:
It was purposefully vague. Why were you snark with the original answer?
again
why was it purposefully vague?You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Cogito Ergo Sum YARR!
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In post 130, Llamarble wrote:Nacho assigns Cheery Dog some townpoints for admitting he took a scum token. I'd like to hear more from CD.
Who are Cheery's buddies?
My best guess currently would be 2 of {Ankamius, elk, ika} although I wouldn't be particularly happy lynching any of those currently.
In post 137, Aeronaut wrote:Too much WIFOM to really call it alignment indicitive, I think.
I think the decision to say it probably isn't very alignment-indicative (the token and his play so far on the other hand totally are). If CD felt it was obvious he would take a scum token, he'd probably feel lying about it would make him more suspicious.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Regfan Jack of All Trades
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Cogito Ergo Sum YARR!
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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136 - Not a fan of this reads-list or the vote.
Town reading/scum reading people based on potential token use is an avenue I would expect scum to take. It's quite easy for scum to absolve themselves of any responsibility on mislynches and an easy way to provide town reads/solidly defend their buddies, again, without coming under much fire because 'token use'.
Just to clarify, let's say you're scum with Regfan. Now, should Regfan come under pressure and start looking like he is likely to be the lynch, you can outright defend him as hard as you want without looking scummy because 'tokens'. Even if he flipped scum; 'tokens'. I don't like this being an available defense for scum to use.
I will not be taking tokens into account. I don't care if someone used 5 tokens to be town, if you look scummy, I'm voting you. Tokens should not surpass scum-hunting.
Also, just in case people don't realize this, players can lie about how they used their tokens.
Your strongest reasoning for voting in this game right now is that he might have used one token to roll scum? That's pretty weak.
139 - Ank, why are you town reading me?
Why are Oversoul and Zach town?
Why is Psyche scum?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Cogito Ergo Sum YARR!
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In post 148, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Your strongest reasoning for voting in this game right now is that he might have used one token to roll scum? That's pretty weak.
It's not a "might". We know he did.
It's also exactly the sort of reasoning Llamarble gravitates towards. You can be a luddite and pretend this information doesn't exist but don't expect everyone else to.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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